When "flushing" how do the nutrients get removed? Does plant release them back through the roots into the water or does it cause the nutrients to exit the plant through the leaves? I think the plant consumes them and therefore is still using nutrients for growth/ripening. How many other plants are flushed before harvest? How would "flushing" occur in nature or outdoors?
Late on flushing. Any hail Marys tricks?
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Potatosito
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1) The plant is still in the flowering tent... I am willing to listen to the experience of veteran growers which is why I'm posting in... Wait for it for the second time... NEWBY CENTRAL =D
2) Logically over emotional reading comprehension would have told you that THIS PLANT is a bagseed without a "calendar" time. As a rough estimate I am considering the estimate from another similar strain...
StoneDHedgE
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Flushing to me. Means a taper to no nutes during the last 14 days. Last 7 or so no nutes period. On a strain, I know. And probably on the week that, I give straight water. Most others have already chopped down. I go deep and always finish.
Potatosito
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Nature = organic soil, no?
Budzbuddha
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Plus - feeding it now probably wouldn’t do much for it as it lost practically all pigmentation for photosynthesis.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
StoneDHedgE
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FLUSHING
Inside:
Nutrients flushed out of pot with run off. Or not added to Rez.
Outside:
Towards end of life plants slow down. Roots aren't growing much anymore. Root zone gets depleted of nutrients.
Plant uses NPK+ whether grown in soil or hydro and NPK+ is never flushed, just starved.
But it is your grow so you have to do what YOU feel is needed.
weedstoner420
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I think you let up on the feeding too early, that plant has a ways to go. If it's at 6.5 weeks right now, I'd say it would need 10 or more to be mature.
I'm not gonna say flushing is bad or good, but it's definitely not required in order to get a plant to mature and ripen. Since you're still a newbie, it's honestly probably better to grow a few plants where you feed all the way to harvest, so you can see all the signs of ripeness happening on a healthy plant. Otherwise you're pretty much guessing when to start flushing, and can end up in this situation, where the plant is totally drained of nutrients but only about 2/3 or 3/4 done maturing. Once you get a few plants to finish without flushing, then you can consider incorporating that into your process to get slight improvements in quality (subjective, of course).
I'll also say, trichomes are not the best way for new growers to determine ripeness. There are other signs of ripeness that are clearly visible without a magnifier or other special equipment - pistils all turning brown and receding, and calyxes swelling to where the buds almost look like popped popcorn. If those other signs aren't there, the plant is not ripe, no matter what the trichomes look like.
Good luck!
Edit to add: nothing wrong with amber trichomes. Lots of folks think amber = couch lock, but they are wrong. Plenty of folks think harvesting earlier will give a more "sativa" type effect, they are also wrong. Let the plant mature and ripen fully for the most beneficial effects for body, mind, and spirit.
I'm not gonna say flushing is bad or good, but it's definitely not required in order to get a plant to mature and ripen. Since you're still a newbie, it's honestly probably better to grow a few plants where you feed all the way to harvest, so you can see all the signs of ripeness happening on a healthy plant. Otherwise you're pretty much guessing when to start flushing, and can end up in this situation, where the plant is totally drained of nutrients but only about 2/3 or 3/4 done maturing. Once you get a few plants to finish without flushing, then you can consider incorporating that into your process to get slight improvements in quality (subjective, of course).
I'll also say, trichomes are not the best way for new growers to determine ripeness. There are other signs of ripeness that are clearly visible without a magnifier or other special equipment - pistils all turning brown and receding, and calyxes swelling to where the buds almost look like popped popcorn. If those other signs aren't there, the plant is not ripe, no matter what the trichomes look like.
Good luck!
Edit to add: nothing wrong with amber trichomes. Lots of folks think amber = couch lock, but they are wrong. Plenty of folks think harvesting earlier will give a more "sativa" type effect, they are also wrong. Let the plant mature and ripen fully for the most beneficial effects for body, mind, and spirit.
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Potatosito
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I really value your objective and unbiased feedback. The plant is still in the tent. You really believe I should keep her in there another few weeks?
weedstoner420
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I would, not sure if it'll "finish" properly in that time, but I definitely wouldn't want to harvest right now
Star Dog
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I'm surprised someone hasn't posted that One link about flushing.
Rx technologies iirc it's a diabolical study at best, its totally unrepeatable for anyone but it's banded about here by some like the results are set in stone.
someone mentioned common sense in an earlier post, i agree with that.
Common sense tells me water with nutrient/minerals in it will evaporate and leave behind the minerals, that part is basic science, come on?
That's not to say it smokes any better or worse but who wants to smoke canna ab from a plants vascular system?
Rx technologies iirc it's a diabolical study at best, its totally unrepeatable for anyone but it's banded about here by some like the results are set in stone.
someone mentioned common sense in an earlier post, i agree with that.
Common sense tells me water with nutrient/minerals in it will evaporate and leave behind the minerals, that part is basic science, come on?
That's not to say it smokes any better or worse but who wants to smoke canna ab from a plants vascular system?
weedstoner420
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Well now, are we talking determinate or indeterminate here...?
Yup you're welcome to do whatever you like they are your plants. I've been growing for a minute, always hydro. I've yet to flush a plant and until they start flushing Tobacco I won't.
A proper dry and cure is what dictates the taste of your plant. The plant is kept alive during a slow dry where it continues metabolism. I'm moving to a live chain with Freeze Drying and have to say what I've heard about that is true. My last harvest was amazing, dried and ready to smoke within 24-36 hours of entering the FD. But that's another story
Best of luck on your choice
Plants uptake nutrients across a semi-permeable membrane. Only water can be leached from a plant once it's crossed that membrane. So in hydro we flush the medium not the plant so we don't get burns from retained, dry salts. Once a nutrient has crossed that barrier it is immediately broken down into carbs/proteins for nutrition and utilized in the photosynthesis process.
Only correct drying removes the chlorophyll. Otherwise you'd see Burley Tobacco growers flushing plants.
Here's my other response about flushing:
StoneDHedgE
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You don't dry and grind up. Then smoke tomatoes. Do you?
StoneDHedgE
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Do you think tobacco companies care about your health? Or what their selling. They're only about profit.Yup you're welcome to do whatever you like they are your plants. I've been growing for a minute, always hydro. I've yet to flush a plant and until they start flushing Tobacco I won't.
A proper dry and cure is what dictates the taste of your plant. The plants is kept alive during a slow dry where it continues metabolism. I'm moving to a live chain with Freeze Drying and have to say what I've heard about that is true. My last harvest was amazing, dried and ready to smoke within 24-36 hours of entering the FD. But that's another story
Best of luck on your choice
Tobacco companies being all about profit has nothing to do with the fact you can't flush plants. Starve yes, flush no. You flush medium. Anyway I'm not in any way trying to convince you to change. If you find value in it go for it.
Tolerance Break
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I liked these threads more when it was just pictures of weed being grown in toilets :/
Jk
Way to early to think about flushing.
Jk
Way to early to think about flushing.