Layout for 10x10 room and 6x600w hps vertical?

paparov

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Hello, i already posted a thread concerning a question i have about electrical draw with my room and thought i should not confuse you in the same thread, as i am asking something totally different here.
Okay, i have 24 plants that i want to grow (20 photos and 4 autos). First i wanna grow them horizontally with 4x600w hps (6 under each hps). Then, when i am about to flower them, i wanna switch my setup to 6x600w VERTICAL.
So, how i should place the bulbs when this time comes? I was thinking about 4 circles of plants around 4 bulbs. And the two other bulbs to go in the middle of the room. So, in that way, 12 plants will be getting light from two sides and 12 from one. I have uploaded a lousy pic i created with MS paint so that you get what i mean. The way i see it, with 3x600w in the middle it would be perfect.
Any other suggestions? Thank you.
 

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paparov

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Ha ha ha, that was funny! Look, i am a terrible drawer and all i wanted to make was a point of what i am thinking! Have you got a better idea to use those 6x600 HPS vertically in a space like that? If this is the case, i would like to hear it.
 

jijiandfarmgang

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Well,

To me that looks like a pita. Remember plants are going to need to be tended to. And getting burned/staring at bare bulb vert is no fun, there are a few ways to get around this.
Such as cages, going in the room a few minutes before lights on....

If your watering by hand, I would do the bulbs in a straight row or rows with plants surrounding them with some sort of vertical trellis.

Just my opinion.

- Jiji

Edit, unless you have a massive room with space everywhere.....
 

paparov

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Thanks for your answer bro! I have done a similar setup in the past with success and it was a pita indeed. But i worked with a smaller space back then (7x10x7) instead of the space i will be using now (actual dimensions of my whole bedroom are 10x11x10 and intend to use it all. There are some closets in my bedroom too. In the upper closet i will have the ballasts and in the closet below i will have 2 40 gal reservoirs with 2 water pumps. A simple watering system consisting of water pumps, drippers and tubes.

So no, this time, i won't be watering by hand. 24 plants seem a lot to me to water by hand while they are sitting in 5 gal pots of organic soil. I had 16 with the previous setup and i cursed the time and the moment i had to water them. Do you think a water pump like this:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Submrsible-Aquarium-Hydroponic-Circulation-HX4500/dp/B00MH5PGK0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1410378546&sr=8-3&keywords=hailea+hx-4500 will be ok to give water to 12 plants in 5 gal pots? They are supposed to provide 2000 liters/h.

I was just wondering if there is a better way to place my lights, this is the purpose of this thread. If there is a way to give multiple sources of light to more than 12 out of the 24 plants i will be having in there. In case my terrible drawing does not show it, this is what could be achieved if i put lights the way i am thinking it. I had success in the past with a similar setup. 16 autoflowers, averaging 100 grams dry (top autoflower was Sonic Bloom by Dr.Krippling which gave me 180 grams dry or 6.3 ounces).
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A couple pics showing plants in my setup and a couple pics of my top producer by then. All autoflowers. Now working with photoperiod plants this round.
 

jijiandfarmgang

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This is my favorite watering system.....


He does double strength nutes , then pure water, for nutrient days so the nutrient salts don't build up

Your going to run into trouble though not monocropping.

- Jiji
 

paparov

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This is my favorite watering system.....


He does double strength nutes , then pure water, for nutrient days so the nutrient salts don't build up

Your going to run into trouble though not monocropping.

- Jiji
I am guy who likes variety....:P I have chosen mainly 50/50 sativa/indica mixes. They are best suited for vertical bulbs. I know that if you want to squeeze the most out of your lights you gotta monocrop...No need for synthetic fertilizers bro, i have made my own organic soil mix which needs water from start until the end :). I have tested it twice in the past with big success and its a relief knowing i have not to check PH, PPM and that shit! Plain tap water left for 24 hours to dechlorinate it will be running through my automatic watering system! Soil has been cooking for 1,5 month already...Nice watering system posted there! What do you think about the pump, will it be ok?
 

jijiandfarmgang

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Probably not, that pump is 528 GPH

You want even pressure almost instantaneously.

The guy in that video recommends 1500 GPH pump for 24 plants.

- Jiji
 

paparov

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I was planning to use two pumps, each for 12 plants. Since you said about 1500 GPH for 24 plants, is it safe to assume 750 GPH would suffice for 12 plants? This does not take me too far from what is recommended.
 

jijiandfarmgang

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I'm sure you can make it work but mimic that design, so that it free flows to the ends then pressurizes equally.

You can test if it works by filling up buckets and make sure they fill up evenly.

- Jiji
 
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