Led and big buds

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Greennner

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How do you get "big" buds under led

1. Using Enhancer light 660nm(maybe +730emmerson) ,if how much?

2.Or just standart "white" light 2700-3500k
30-50w/sf

3. Playing with nutrients and booster?
What and when(flowering time)
Diffrent nuts the hps grow?

4. Distance light to plants



I just miss the swell between end of week 4-6 ,
But some of you have it really nice swell ,
big long buds , that Look like hps grown
 
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Greennner

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1.I tryed Enhancer with cheep leds. Wasnt really nice but wasn Bad too.

2. I just just standert white leds lm561c ,they are 3 years old now. With 35w/sf

3.
-standart nuts a bit more then under led (0,2ec more)
-just tryed selfmade teepinator and sweet raw , but just half dose.dont see much diffrents or taste.
-Pk booster ,i dont liked them with hps , they fucke up the taste extrem,dont like it .didnt tryed it with led.
-nothing els in Bloom


4. Dependance on plant high . Most between 12 inc
Some Heads a lot closer


The swell ...
Sometime its ok sometimea its Bad,
Specialy some strains that like hps dont work that nice under led ( i have a amneisa clone , hps = a lot big fat buds / led = a lot but very small buds not much harv..)
Not sure but i think it is the temps ( 68-73f maybe bit to low at Winter
 
Rocket Soul

Rocket Soul

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Greennner said:
1.I tryed Enhancer with cheep leds. Wasnt really nice but wasn Bad too.

2. I just just standert white leds lm561c ,they are 3 years old now. With 35w/sf

3.
-standart nuts a bit more then under led (0,2ec more)
-just tryed selfmade teepinator and sweet raw , but just half dose.dont see much diffrents or taste.
-Pk booster ,i dont liked them with hps , they fucke up the taste extrem,dont like it .didnt tryed it with led.
-nothing els in Bloom


4. Dependance on plant high . Most between 12 inc
Some Heads a lot closer


The swell ...
Sometime its ok sometimea its Bad,
Specialy some strains that like hps dont work that nice under led ( i have a amneisa clone , hps = a lot big fat buds / led = a lot but very small buds not much harv..)
Not sure but i think it is the temps ( 68-73f maybe bit to low at Winter
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Get your temps up first and foremostly, +80F.

It's hard to say anything about "big buds" without seeing your grow. Imo I think big buds is not something you can get just by adding some extra light or nutrient, it has to do with your whole grow.style. some selective pruning and defoliating the lower bit can get the plant to concentrate buds to larger on top, but it's hard to give advice without seeing plants.
 
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Greennner

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Rocket Soul said:
Get your temps up first and foremostly, +80F.

It's hard to say anything about "big buds" without seeing your grow. Imo I think big buds is not something you can get just by adding some extra light or nutrient, it has to do with your whole grow.style. some selective pruning and defoliating the lower bit can get the plant to concentrate buds to larger on top, but it's hard to give advice without seeing plants.
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Yes you are right!
But i want to know what you think , and about your own grow ;)

And 80f+ Sound good but dont you have mold Problems with These super tight led buds?

But more infomation from my side.

Set up ; 1m2 tent / 550m3
ebb and flow (in flower e4 hour during light, And 1 small flood after 6hours light off )
Medium; hydroton , 16 × 7 liters pots
Nuts ; canna aqua / canna ph-
+ clorine for Desinfection e3days
Ph 5.8-6.2
ec ( veg 1.1 - 1,4 / flower start 1.1 up to 1.3)
Light ; samsung f strips lm561 (×24)
Style ; LST / clone 10-14 days - start in system
7-10 days - start flowerplant high around 7- 10inc - ( plant high at the end 24-28 inc , Bushy several tops)
 
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Greennner

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Right ,
and now Details ,what you do for every point ;)
If you have the time;)


I lost Pest Management, somtimes i do it good sometime nothing, right now i juse(spray) neem and some stuff i forgotten the Name, its oil and terp based i think.cant tell later

Use it 1-2 a week in veg .
And flower week 1-3 full spray 1 a week
Week 4-7 just the lower part with less to no buds ,just leaf
 
Rocket Soul

Rocket Soul

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Greennner said:
Yes you are right!
But i want to know what you think , and about your own grow ;)

And 80f+ Sound good but dont you have mold Problems with These super tight led buds?

But more infomation from my side.

Set up ; 1m2 tent / 550m3
ebb and flow (in flower e4 hour during light, And 1 small flood after 6hours light off )
Medium; hydroton , 16 × 7 liters pots
Nuts ; canna aqua / canna ph-
+ clorine for Desinfection e3days
Ph 5.8-6.2
ec ( veg 1.1 - 1,4 / flower start 1.1 up to 1.3)
Light ; samsung f strips lm561 (×24)
Style ; LST / clone 10-14 days - start in system
7-10 days - start flowerplant high around 7- 10inc - ( plant high at the end 24-28 inc , Bushy several tops)
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Hard to say without pics, is it possible that you have too many budsites? When you have loads of tops the buds get smaller as the plant shares energy to many tops.
 
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Roguedawg

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try less tops next time, some plants seem to have a sweet spot where if there are too many tops they will be small but a few less and they are alot larger. if that doesnt work its probably the plant.
 
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Greennner

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Roguedawg said:
try less tops next time, some plants seem to have a sweet spot where if there are too many tops they will be small but a few less and they are alot larger. if that doesnt work its probably the plant.
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Yes i think i will do try it. But not easy because so much New strains ,the last Times i grow New starins(cuts) every grow because i get somuch New stuff ;)))

Still have to test some clones;
London poundcake
Privada reserva og kush
jew gold
banger&mac
Grapefruit
....

And some beans i have to Pop to ;)
Lemon dosi and jeti og orange juice
But i like to work with clones way more .
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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Greennner said:
Right ,
and now Details ,what you do for every point ;)
If you have the time;)


I lost Pest Management, somtimes i do it good sometime nothing, right now i juse(spray) neem and some stuff i forgotten the Name, its oil and terp based i think.cant tell later

Use it 1-2 a week in veg .
And flower week 1-3 full spray 1 a week
Week 4-7 just the lower part with less to no buds ,just leaf
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Depends a lot on your setup man. Lighting and environment are your two biggest bottlenecks. Genetics play another factor. I use 14k watts or more of 3k full spectrum leds and I get big tight booty buds.
 
Rocket Soul

Rocket Soul

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Greennner said:
Yes i think i will do try it. But not easy because so much New strains ,the last Times i grow New starins(cuts) every grow because i get somuch New stuff ;)))

Still have to test some clones;
London poundcake
Privada reserva og kush
jew gold
banger&mac
Grapefruit
....

And some beans i have to Pop to ;)
Lemon dosi and jeti og orange juice
But i like to work with clones way more .
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Another thing to check out is your branches and trunk: the trunk should ideally be as thick as your thumb before your flower (imho and as a minimum) and any small branches that won't carry the weight of a big bud should either be supported or pruned and gotten rid off.
 
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