Led finally makes its breakthrough

hondagrower420

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http://snip.ly/57pz1#https://www.heliospectra.com/blog/heliospectra-receives-265k-order-washington-state-grower-canna-specific-led-system

Canna-Specific LEDSystem Maximizes Revenue per Square Foot and Reduces Operating Costs

Heliospectra AB (publ) (OTCQB:HLSPY, FIRSTNORTH: HELIO), a world leader in intelligent lighting technology for crop cultivation and plant research, today announced an order valued at just over $265,000 for the Heliospectra LX601Ccannabis-focused LED light hardware and software system.

www.heliospectra.com) specializes in intelligent lighting technology for plant research and greenhouse cultivation. The Company’s lighting system provides an effective and durable technology for cultivating greenhouse and indoor plants by combining several different groups of versatile light emitting diodes (LEDs) with optics, remote sensing techniques, and a robust heat dissipation solution. This proprietary setup gives growers the ability to control the intensity and wavelengths of the light emitted, creating a spectrum specifically adjusted to different plant species and growth stages to better facilitate photosynthesis. The complete, highly-engineered lamp produces crops that look better, taste better, and have a longer shelf-life than those grown underHID lamps. The technology not only reduces energy consumption by up to 50%, but also helps stimulate growth characteristics and improve plant quality. Other benefits include reduced light pollution, lower mercury use due to the avoidance of traditional HID/HPS bulbs, and less HVAC investment and monthly expense requirements.

Heliospectra products are based on in-depth knowledge in plant physiology and photosynthesis along with a unique way to utilize modern LED technology. After six years of development in Sweden, the company has now begun to expand into the international market. The company has raised more than $ 21 million in capital and has received more than $2.6 million through academic scholarships and grants. It has also received numerous awards for its forward thinking technology. Principal owners: Weland Steelwww.welandstal.se, Swedish Industrial Fund www.industrifonden.se, Midrocwww.midroc.se, Avanza Pensionwww.avanza.se.

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The statements in this press release constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Such statements are based on our current beliefs and expectations and are inherently subject to significant business, economic and competitive uncertainties and contingencies, many of which are beyond our control. In addition, such forward-looking statements are subject to assumptions with respect to future business strategies and decisions that are subject to change. Potential risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, technical advances in the industry as well as political and economic conditions present within the industry. We do not take any obligation to update any forward-looking statement to reflect events or developments after a forward-looking statement was made.
 
sanjuan

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The "c" panel includes 740nm, I assume the different color LEDs are independently programmable. Growershouse has been selling Heliospectra for a while.

A quarter million dollars is chump change for the venture capital around Puget Sound.
 
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PSUAGRO.

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Heliospectra did a flower room swap at pink house last year, ended badly BUT the head grower supposedly refused to listen to the helio reps/wouldn't change his grow tactics?..........Their is a learning curve with monos, no question IMO.

 
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PSUAGRO.

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chuck estevez said:
LMFAO

hi micheal, you loser, you couldn't win an ass kicking contest against a 1 legged man,let alone build a light that could grow a tomato.
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If you don't follow the light manufacturer's/rep's recommendations your setting yourself up for failure....... That's with any light tech

Troll on braaaaaahhhhh
 
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BobCajun

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sanjuan said:
Definitely better than a Chinese pizza box.
No COBs, though, so no love around here. ;)
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The CXB COBs cost about 1/3rd less per lumen than standard single LEDs, but I guess you'd have more spectrum control with a bunch of singles. Personally I wouldn't get into LED plant lights as a business, simply because it's evolving faster than you can keep up with it. You would always be trying to get rid of last quarter's stock while better and cheaper stuff is coming out. I guess on a small scale would be okay, but as a large multimillion dollar company It would be insanity.
 
chuck estevez

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PSUAGRO. said:
If you don't follow the light manufacturer's/rep's recommendations your setting yourself up for failure....... That's with any light tech

Troll on braaaaaahhhhh
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I didnt have to follow any recommendations to grow with my DE. just more EXCUSES for poor performance from led lighting.
 
sanjuan

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I disagree with a big learning curve for discrete LED luminaires. My first grow with Lumigrow yielded a quarter pound of S.A.G.E. buds per plant without even trying for quantity (other than a month-long veg under fluorescents). I kept all dimming pots at 10/10. Too much of a good thing; I did bleach top buds a little. That was my first grow in almost ten years.

There is a learning curve, though. Right now I've germinated seeds under Lumigrow Pro 325 and I'm having trouble judging too many or too few photons. I should find my cheap digital lux meter so I have something objective to go by, even if it is ultimately misleading.
 
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hondagrower420

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When I seen this and posted it, I didn't do it to compare. It was more of, people are finally spending on leds.

For some this seems trivial. I see this company, who makes canna specific lighting being able to invest in R&D.

This company will gain more knowledge of lighting and cannabis, that in the end, will benifit end users.

Yes, this company will probably charge and unjust amount. I don't work for or even use led lighting.

I just know if it was my business, I would drop 75k to 100k on R&D.

People need to remember that things change on a daily basis. I remember when the almighty lumen was the best thing for meqasureing light. Now we have par and ppdf.

Led lights are like cell phones. When cellular phones first came out you had all this different form factors and every company had a specific charger you had to use. Now most phones are the same form factor and the charger port, excluding Apple, in universal.

Led still needs to find itself. To many different styles. Round, square rectangle. And they need to settle on using one tech or the other, cob or epistar.

My thoughts.
 
FranJan

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hondagrower420 said:
http://snip.ly/57pz1#https://www.heliospectra.com/blog/heliospectra-receives-265k-order-washington-state-grower-canna-specific-led-system...............................Canna-Specific LEDSystem Maximizes Revenue per Square Foot and Reduces Operating Costs
stry. We do not take any obligation to update any forward-looking statement to reflect events or developments after a forward-looking statement was made.
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Hi HG420, btw Helio has quite a few small cannabis businesses also, they just like to shoot their mouths off about the big ones. There's Vegas, and Colorado, those ones they advertise. I know there is one more that was pretty substantial and they just got a grant to study spectral responses, (though not on cannabis which sucks :(). And I couldn't even guess how many of their lights are in greenhouses in Europe nowadays. Shit folks, Illumitex has a few cannabis businesses using there stuff and many verts. Philips, GE have big contracts. Purdue and others may still use HPS in tests as a control but their work is on LED response now. It goes on and on, but I won't. And it's more of a UL issue slowing adoption down than price in many markets.

I just wanted to get that point in just to show you, and maybe some others, that it isn't Helios first rodeo and nor will it be their last and anyone who doesn't think that......well you don't need shit spelled out for you like some others do, right HG420 ;)?


http://www.amazon.com/When-Dinosaurs-Die-Understanding-Families/dp/0316119555
 
Rahz

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The multi-spectrum version of that lamp has been available for a while now AFAIK. I remember reading about it over a year ago... though maybe it was unreleased at that point?

Creative engineering with the form factor. Looks nice, small footprint which is useful in greenshouses. Price on the e60 is not bad. The efficiency on any of them is okay but not great. Expensive niche market research lamp with adjustable spectrum, having the highest electrical efficiency would be a secondary concern. Makes sense to release a bare bones version as well.

Not really a breakthrough IMO. I'd rather have 2.3+ umole/J than spectral adjustment. The coming upgrade to Cree's CXB line will make 2.4 a reality at near nominal current. That is a breakthrough that will have an influence on the initial and long term costs of operating. There's no magic to the advantages of integrated chip arrays so I don't really see monos having a future, but that doesn't mean they can't get the job done with similar efficiency, just that as time goes by it will make less sense to use them. We've even seen with Flip Chip an interest in adjustable spectrum cob technology.

Hybrid technology may eventually replace the cob we know today, though the practice of integrated arrays isn't going anywhere.

hondagrower420 said:
http://snip.ly/57pz1#https://www.heliospectra.com/blog/heliospectra-receives-265k-order-washington-state-grower-canna-specific-led-system

Canna-Specific LEDSystem Maximizes Revenue per Square Foot and Reduces Operating Costs

Heliospectra AB (publ) (OTCQB:HLSPY, FIRSTNORTH: HELIO), a world leader in intelligent lighting technology for crop cultivation and plant research, today announced an order valued at just over $265,000 for the Heliospectra LX601Ccannabis-focused LED light hardware and software system.

www.heliospectra.com) specializes in intelligent lighting technology for plant research and greenhouse cultivation. The Company’s lighting system provides an effective and durable technology for cultivating greenhouse and indoor plants by combining several different groups of versatile light emitting diodes (LEDs) with optics, remote sensing techniques, and a robust heat dissipation solution. This proprietary setup gives growers the ability to control the intensity and wavelengths of the light emitted, creating a spectrum specifically adjusted to different plant species and growth stages to better facilitate photosynthesis. The complete, highly-engineered lamp produces crops that look better, taste better, and have a longer shelf-life than those grown underHID lamps. The technology not only reduces energy consumption by up to 50%, but also helps stimulate growth characteristics and improve plant quality. Other benefits include reduced light pollution, lower mercury use due to the avoidance of traditional HID/HPS bulbs, and less HVAC investment and monthly expense requirements.

Heliospectra products are based on in-depth knowledge in plant physiology and photosynthesis along with a unique way to utilize modern LED technology. After six years of development in Sweden, the company has now begun to expand into the international market. The company has raised more than $ 21 million in capital and has received more than $2.6 million through academic scholarships and grants. It has also received numerous awards for its forward thinking technology. Principal owners: Weland Steelwww.welandstal.se, Swedish Industrial Fund www.industrifonden.se, Midrocwww.midroc.se, Avanza Pensionwww.avanza.se.

Forward-Looking Statements

The statements in this press release constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Such statements are based on our current beliefs and expectations and are inherently subject to significant business, economic and competitive uncertainties and contingencies, many of which are beyond our control. In addition, such forward-looking statements are subject to assumptions with respect to future business strategies and decisions that are subject to change. Potential risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, technical advances in the industry as well as political and economic conditions present within the industry. We do not take any obligation to update any forward-looking statement to reflect events or developments after a forward-looking statement was made.
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BobCajun

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Rahz said:
The multi-spectrum version of that lamp has been available for a while now AFAIK. I remember reading about it over a year ago... though maybe it was unreleased at that point?

Creative engineering with the form factor. Looks nice, small footprint which is useful in greenshouses. Price on the e60 is not bad. The efficiency on any of them is okay but not great. Expensive niche market research lamp with adjustable spectrum, having the highest electrical efficiency would be a secondary concern. Makes sense to release a bare bones version as well.

Not really a breakthrough IMO. I'd rather have 2.3+ umole/J than spectral adjustment. The coming upgrade to Cree's CXB line will make 2.4 a reality at near nominal current. That is a breakthrough that will have an influence on the initial and long term costs of operating. There's no magic to the advantages of integrated chip arrays so I don't really see monos having a future, but that doesn't mean they can't get the job done with similar efficiency, just that as time goes by it will make less sense to use them. We've even seen with Flip Chip an interest in adjustable spectrum cob technology.

Hybrid technology may eventually replace the cob we know today, though the practice of integrated arrays isn't going anywhere.
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The price difference is what gives CXB COBs a clear advantage over singles. Right now you can get two 240w CXB high bays for about $900 or less, while a 440w Spectrum King is about $1200. You would just be throwing money away.

I just used Spectrum King as an example because it uses singles and was similar in wattage. It's actually Cree's main selling point for the CXB, that it's the most lumens per dollar spent that you can currently get in LEDs.
 
hondagrower420

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Like I said,there is still a war in the led market.

Other notable tech battles that come to mind

DVD vs laserdisc
Hddvd vs bluray

The result is that it limits end users. Ok, say your hps bulb goes out, you got to the store and buy a bulb. If your led goes out you. Buy a new panel? diode? Cob? Send it off for repair? See what I'm saying.

@Rahz I have been watching tasty for some time. I think that you have done a great job of creating a form factor that is scalable. And the fact that you make your parts list available. To many times I see companies cloud what parts are used.
 
SativaSumo

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I'm a complete newb here, but I know after about the third or fourth super amazing claim about a new product I start to think snake oil.

The second paragraph above literally includes the following claims: effective, durable, you control intensity/wavelength, specially adjusted spectrum tailored to a species, better photosynthesis, results look better, taste better, longer shelf life, reduces energy by 50%, helps stimulate growth, reduced light pollution, lower mercury use, less HVAC investment and expense.

Can it cure my ED too? 'Cause that would be the final killer application for these lights. I would buy the damn company!
 
hondagrower420

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SativaSumo said:
I'm a complete newb here, but I know after about the third or fourth super amazing claim about a new product I start to think snake oil.

The second paragraph above literally includes the following claims: effective, durable, you control intensity/wavelength, specially adjusted spectrum tailored to a species, better photosynthesis, results look better, taste better, longer shelf life, reduces energy by 50%, helps stimulate growth, reduced light pollution, lower mercury use, less HVAC investment and expense.

Can it cure my ED too? 'Cause that would be the final killer application for these lights. I would buy the damn company!
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I'm a newb about led also but from what I gather is:

Epistar diodes are superior in wavelength output over cob and hid

But...

Cob led far exceed hid and epistar in par watts. Cob is pretty much the brightest light source out there, hands down. Which actually can become a problem.

The ability to control spectrum and have specific wavelengths is thrown out the water when compared to the raw usable output of light cob.

I think some people just like the burple led because it looks cool.

Don't get me wrong, burple led for veg, I dig it. But flowering with them, nope.

I see a lot of harvest off cob, hardly any of burple panels.

Any members flower under burple or those 7 and 9 band panels?

@REALSTYLES made his opinion clear last year about those "full spectrum" panels.
 
sanjuan

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I've flowered under Lumigrow for a couple of years; 450nm + 660nm + some white for human vision.
I'm set to build a bunch of COB stuff but I feel the need to make medicine right now, I've had a break from growing.

The camera's white balance correction was not used for this beautiful blurpleness!
(WTF doesn't my pic rotation remain?)
IMG_1046.JPG
 
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