Legendary/Heirloom Strains!?!

cannakis

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In states where rec is legal those legendary strains are pretty common that's why there is so much hype about new strains when they come out. GG#4 is a good example right now of a hype plant cause its relatively new.
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cannakis

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Yes but you Could still find that pheno...!? And what about breeding similar phenos to make pure...
GSC for example, it is a certain pheno of a strain, not a strain itself. That is the case for clone only strains. You could have 1000 other seeds of the same strains and not get that particular "clone only'' pheno.
 

blowincherrypie

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A seed wouldve had to gave been there at somepoint right?
Yes but you Could still find that pheno...!? And what about breeding similar phenos to make pure...
OK but are you really going to call the 999 other "f1/durb/flo" beans "GSC"???

No, you cant..

You cant even really call the seeds that you might find in a bud of real GSC "gsc" because it wuld then just be a "f1/durb/flo" seed..

The Plant. Then came seed.chicken then egg.
Wow bro you made this thread look like crap with your sig and by posting all these individual posts.

I feel like I'm explaining something to my 5 year olds..
 

kmog33

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OK but are you really going to call the 999 other "f1/durb/flo" beans "GSC"???

No, you cant..

You cant even really call the seeds that you might find in a bud of real GSC "gsc" because it wuld then just be a "f1/durb/flo" seed..
No its bagseed and that is exactly what the forum cut gsc is. Also i would call the seeds the cookies fam have from the stabilized gsc cross real gsc. Just because they havent given it out doesn't mean the breeders don't have seeds for it. Clone onlys tend to happen when breeders lose a parent, or find a rare pheno during breeding and pheno selection.

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blowincherrypie

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Also i would call the seeds the cookies fam have from the stabilized gsc cross real gsc. Just because they havent given it out doesn't mean the breeders don't have seeds for it
you can't "stabalize" a seed enough to guarantee it will be just like the original pheno.. Genetics don't work that way.. The only way to guarantee the genetics will be identical is to clone..

Clone onlys tend to happen when breeders lose a parent, or find a rare pheno during breeding and pheno selection.
Thats what I've been saying.. the real GSC is clone only, is a rare pheno, and all of the other real gsc clones came from that same 1 mother.. Chemdog for example.. The legend has it he had x amount of beans from x amount of whatever strain it was.. When he popped the beans and found out they were special they became known as "clone only" chemdog and not the original strain. Just like GSC is "clone only" GSC and not "f1/durb/ whatever"
 

kmog33

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Thats what I've been saying.. the real GSC is clone only, is a rare pheno, and all of the other real gsc clones came from that same 1 mother.. Chemdog for example.. The legend has it he had x amount of beans from x amount of whatever strain it was.. When he popped the beans and found out they were special they became known as "clone only" chemdog and not the original strain. Just like GSC is "clone only" GSC and not "f1/durb/ whatever"
No the cookies fam just doesnt give the real deal out. They claim its a stabilized strain so they should have seeds for real deal gsc but its just as rare as the cut because they give neither out. And forum cut gsc is from more than one bagseed. Tons of people grew out bagseed from real gsc and a lot of them look similar, this was what the forum cut is. Its not from one dudes bagseed lol.

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blowincherrypie

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No the cookies fam just doesnt give the real deal out. They claim its a stabilized strain so they should have seeds for real deal gsc but its just as rare as the cut because they give neither out. And forum cut gsc is from more than one bagseed. Tons of people grew out bagseed from real gsc and a lot of them look similar, this was what the forum cut is. Its not from one dudes bagseed lol.

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You're tripping.. Yes the "forum cut" is all supposed to be from one dudes bagseed.. I forgot who it was or what board it was but he gave it out freely on that forum (hence "forum cut" get it??).. Otherwise finding bagseed from real gsc was called "fortune cookies".. Whatever tho this is really getting out of hand...
 

blowincherrypie

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No the cookies fam just doesnt give the real deal out. They claim its a stabilized strain so they should have seeds for real deal gsc but its just as rare as the cut because they give neither out. And forum cut gsc is from more than one bagseed. Tons of people grew out bagseed from real gsc and a lot of them look similar, this was what the forum cut is. Its not from one dudes bagseed lol.

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you can't "stabalize" a seed enough to guarantee it will be just like the original pheno.. Genetics don't work that way.. The only way to guarantee the genetics will be identical is to clone..
 

cannakis

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You're tripping.. Yes the "forum cut" is all supposed to be from one dudes bagseed.. I forgot who it was or what board it was but he gave it out freely on that forum (hence "forum cut" get it??).. Otherwise finding bagseed from real gsc was called "fortune cookies".. Whatever tho this is really getting out of hand...
well i like understanding forum cut though.! i wondered why it was a forum cut.!
 

kmog33

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Yes you can. 9/10. There are pots of strains that are like that, because the breeder actually put enough time and generations in to breed out all the undesired traits. And forum cut is definitely not from one dudes bagseed. There were tons of seeds when the fam was originally putting out gsc nug. Thats why there are a few different types of the cut, but any pheno out of the bag seed that came out looking like one was that cut lol.

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kmog33

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You're tripping.. Yes the "forum cut" is all supposed to be from one dudes bagseed.. I forgot who it was or what board it was but he gave it out freely on that forum (hence "forum cut" get it??).. Otherwise finding bagseed from real gsc was called "fortune cookies".. Whatever tho this is really getting out of hand...
May have started that way but any bagseed of real gsc came out with that pheno people started calling forum cut lol or claiming forum cut, and whos going to prove them wrong? Its all over the place now.

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kmog33

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"Fortune cookies" is what the cookies fam calls all gsc bagseed that was grown out. Forum cut is fortune cookies.

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cannakis

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Yes you can. 9/10. There are pots of strains that are like that, because the breeder actually put enough time and generations in to breed out all the undesired traits. And forum cut is definitely not from one dudes bagseed. There were tons of seeds when the fam was originally putting out gsc nug. Thats why there are a few different types of the cut, but any pheno out of the bag seed that came out looking like one was that cut lol.

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you seem to know more than my dad... see thats what i was saying, you can breed purity... you just have to know what your doing and time.
 
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