Lets Settle This Once And For All, Do Light Movers Help When Flowering??????????

So Ive been hearing very mixed things about light movers, some say they work great, some say they only work well for vegging and on the same token some say they do nothing for flowering, SO WHICH IS IT????? Several months ago I went to a local hydro shop that was promoting the Star Spinner light mover, in case your not familiar here's there site and a couple pics:

(https://lifelightsystems.com/Home_Page.php)


I was told that the reason these work so well is because the bulbs are cooled by the spinning of the fixture which cuts down on temps/AC usage as well as the fact that the lower leaves get light which would normally be shaded by the top leaves when using a stationary light. So if the whole plant gets more light when using light movers wouldn't that mean more bud production? That's what they claim anyway but Ive heard arguments to the contrary so ONCE AND FOR ALL CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PUT THIS TO REST?????

BUMP, Anyone?

It is true that more light equals denser bud production and the bulbs may be cooled by the spinning of the fixture but the heat has to dissipate to somewhere; I would still suggest using an inline fan to exhaust the warm air and bring in cool air from the outside of wherever your growing. I wouldn't recommend this fixture in an enclosed space such as a grow tent. This fixture would be more useful in a medium to large room or a green house type setting. Just my 2 cents.

I have always thought of light movers as a tool for using less light fixtures. More so on a rail type system than a spinner. Lets say you have a 4' x 8' grow. The footprint of the light is only 4x4. If you can make the light reflector hood mobile you can still cover the 4x8 area. But you have to buy one less fixture. It also means less bulbs down the road, etc...

I'm pretty sure the goal of these types of light movers that spin in a circle is to get the light to penetrate the buds from all sides, creating uniform bud growth all down the stem, and just overall fatter tops due to light hitting them from 360 degrees due to the light source constantly moving. Correct me if I am wrong. But light rails like norton is talking about is to, like he said, use less lights to get the light footprint larger in a certain given grow space.

I am only on my first indoor grow using a rail type light mover, but, I will definitely say I love it. Prior grows I was on;y able to place 4-5 plants under my light and had to rotate the pots all the time to get good coverage and had decent yields. I picked up the rail and mover and am now able to have 10 plants going under 1 1000w hps and I am 1-2 weeks from harvest and my yields look like they are possibly a little better even than in the past. I would def. say they are worth the investment and will be picking another one up after this grow to put a 2nd one in my flowering room.

So which type is best, circular or linear? Ive read several good reviews on this AgraMover (Second Pic) (http://www.agramover.com/technology_services_003.htm) Aparently its has very good quality bearings and components that last a lot longer than most other models twice its price, not to mention a 120 VAC outlet for fans etc, kinda handy. So which type/model should I go with?

SativaMe@420 said:

So which type is best, circular or linear? Ive read several good reviews on this AgraMover (Second Pic) (http://www.agramover.com/technology_services_003.htm) Aparently its has very good quality bearings and components that last a lot longer than most other models twice its price, not to mention a 120 VAC outlet for fans etc, kinda handy. So which type/model should I go with?

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Thats just it man, the best type for you may not be the best type for somebody else. It all depends on your room setup and your goals on which one you need to buy. The rail if you want less lights, more coverage (probably a rectangular shaped room)....and the circular rotating one if you have a square room or big 10' x 10' tent and want the MOST lumens and biggest buds since the lights are much closer together and they are slowly rotating so your plants get excellent penetration and coverage.

I agree with cc. I have a rectangular room for flowering and use the rail set up and plan on adding another on the other side of the room having 2 running on the same on/off schedule so I can have a new harves every 5-6 weeks. I also use mylar on all the walls to help reflect light back to the lower branches. In a square room I might have tried a spinner style.

cant rep ya yet, since it wants me to rep others first haha but this thread is worth the rep! IMO these things are worth it and will greatly increase your yield. i would try not to reduce your lighting, but just add these into your setup so real gains can be noticed. you may find you like to leave a few more lower nodes as well since they will be getting lots of light after the change and see if that increases your yeild. i havent ran them yet but when i do (not if) i like the spinners.

Well i ran my experiment this last round with a few lights in a zig zag patern, with timers, and to tell you the truth it looks like i might have the same yield with half the a fraction of the cost i had to drop the amount of lights because im in the desert, and its fucken hoter than shit out hear plus the contractors how build out hear cut corners like no fucken tommorow who the fuck builds their exterior walls with 2x4 studs thats fucken crazzy!!!!!!!! so ya i put half light input, but on a few lights off a fewlights during veg to keep the temp down and it went on and off zig zag patern every hour on the hour into flower right.. my budys running the last week wen we cut ill let you know if it worked!!!! but dam it looks like it didnt skip a beet... ill know wen dry weight comes in....

YES they help you'd be surprised how just moving an inch over will increase yield,plus they help to even things out,constant moving of plants can be kinda frustrating.

I think we are going to build our flowering room rectangular and use one of the AgraMovers with two 6" air cooled hoods, each hood will be customized with two bulbs inside, a 600W HPS + 400W CMH, so 2000W total for the flowering room. As for the veg room I was thinking of making it rectangular also but about half the size of the flowering room and use another AgraMover with a shorter rail with one hood (600W HPS + 250W CMH), however do I even need a mover for the veg room? If it will give better more uniform growth with tighter node spacing then that's what we'll do, what do you all think?