Let's talk about guns. . . . . .

Budley Doright

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Something like 65% of the GOP say they will never vote for anyone who goes against Mr Trumpf. Coupled with the fact their starting point is as a minority party, it is going to be tough for them to win national elections.
Perhaps your about too enter a 3 party system where the 3rd party holds the power to swing the vote. Is that a good thing?
 

madvillian420

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Good point, but not sure what the gun pictured has to do with hunting.

When my niece was about 10-11 years old she helped butcher a hog. For two years after she did not eat meat.
you can absolutely positively hunt with an AK.....7.62x39 is a fine game round. Considering the optics rail, the one pictured would be even more suitable. A lot of modern hog hunters use the AR platform, "assault rifles" are just rifles that the media has deemed scary lol
 

madvillian420

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guns that shoot it are not generally known for accuracy
Ive fired a Ruger M-77, Ruger mini 14 and CZ 527 and they are all on my top 10 list as far as accuracy. Even the myth of AKs being inaccurate is mostly the fault of the shooter not the rifle. I used to work with a dude who was ex Bosnian special forces, he had videos of him hitting steel with an iron sights dogshit foriegn AK at over 200 yards. When you have one gun to keep you alive from enemies and for sustenance, youll get accurate fast lol. With modern ammo and rifle quality the quality control issues with most brands are a thing of the past.
 

Budley Doright

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Ive fired a Ruger M-77, Ruger mini 14 and CZ 527 and they are all on my top 10 list as far as accuracy. Even the myth of AKs being inaccurate is mostly the fault of the shooter not the rifle. I used to work with a dude who was ex Bosnian special forces, he had videos of him hitting steel with an iron sights dogshit foriegn AK at over 200 yards. When you have one gun to keep you alive from enemies and for sustenance, youll get accurate fast lol. With modern ammo and rifle quality the quality control issues with most brands are a thing of the past.
I’m thinking given the many different and mass produced AK’s, the accuracy varies from gun to gun but yup I’m sure there are some that are consistently accurate. Some not so much, the consistency part mostly. Probably not a bad choice for whitetail deer and hog where most shots are 100-200 yards tops.
 

Budley Doright

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Fun Gun.
Sold it.
Larger cal next.
If I need to "kill" someone there is no way I am going to shoot them, I want eye contact.

All kids should learn to hunt or at least see where meat comes from.

Guns are just tools, people need to calm down.

I truly believe More Gun is the solution.

This is not bait and I hope you all are very kind and understanding.

Most people I know have 5-10 guns and a few pounds of Tannerite.


Cheers
All kids do not need to learn to hunt, why would they? And I’m pretty sure they all know where the meat they eat comes from. I assume you are referring to showing them the brutality of the whole meat thing. Again why? To toughen them up maybe? I’ll be the first to admit that I think killing is an ugly part of humanity, mostly when I crack an egg :(, but yes I do it (not much anymore), I also said earlier there is way more to hunting than the killing.
 

injinji

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Perhaps your about too enter a 3 party system where the 3rd party holds the power to swing the vote. Is that a good thing?
If the Trumpf faction leave the GOP they will both be crippled, electorally. If the Trumpf folks stay in the GOP, all the moderates will leave. Not that many moderates left, so not sure what effect that would have. My biggest concern is the Democrats will over reach and spoil all the gains that seem possible now.
 

injinji

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. . . . . . . . And I’m pretty sure they all know where the meat they eat comes from. . . . . . .
My family made whisky. In 1954 my parents went to Tampa to find work after Granddaddy went to prison and the family business was busted up. Sister was born down there and spent the first 6-7 years of her life being raised as a city girl. One day she was helping with lunch and ask Mamma if she had a liver like chickens did. Mamma told her yes, she had a liver. Sister ask, "is it wrapped in freezer paper?"

These days with the jumbo packs of boneless breast, there are very few fryers sold. I'm guessing city kids today know less about the meat they eat than Sister did 60 years ago.
 

Budley Doright

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My family made whisky. In 1954 my parents went to Tampa to find work after Granddaddy went to prison and the family business was busted up. Sister was born down there and spent the first 6-7 years of her life being raised as a city girl. One day she was helping with lunch and ask Mamma if she had a liver like chickens did. Mamma told her yes, she had a liver. Sister ask, "is it wrapped in freezer paper?"

These days with the jumbo packs of boneless breast, there are very few fryers sold. I'm guessing city kids today know less about the meat they eat than Sister did 60 years ago.
I’m doubting that but I could be wrong, I know 20 year olds that have no clue what end of a screwdriver to use :(. I do think kids in some respects are way ahead of the curve than we were. My reply was based on the fact hunting is not a necessary skill now. If a kid decides he wants to own a gun I do believe there should be extensive training and testing to make sure they are responsible (as much as possible) enough to own one as I was. Buying my first gun entailed writing (no google lol) to all of the major manufacturers and getting as much information I could to make the right choice for what I wanted it for. I do think gun ownership is a privilege and carries a huge responsibility due to the fact you can take a life with the pull of a trigger. I have mixed feelings about handguns and lean toward there not needed and should be highly regulated but that’s a personal feeling, not sure how I would feel if we actually were able to own one easily here.
 

injinji

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I’m doubting that but I could be wrong, I know 20 year olds that have no clue what end of a screwdriver to use :(. I do think kids in some respects are way ahead of the curve than we were. My reply was based on the fact hunting is not a necessary skill now. If a kid decides he wants to own a gun I do believe there should be extensive training and testing to make sure they are responsible (as much as possible) enough to own one as I was. Buying my first gun entailed writing (no google lol) to all of the major manufacturers and getting as much information I could to make the right choice for what I wanted it for. I do think gun ownership is a privilege and carries a huge responsibility due to the fact you can take a life with the pull of a trigger. I have mixed feelings about handguns and lean toward there not needed and should be highly regulated but that’s a personal feeling, not sure how I would feel if we actually were able to own one easily here.
I agree about the responsibility of gun ownership. I can't remember a time when I was a kid and there were not guns propped in the corner. But I knew they were in the same class as the hog pen with the mean boar. Something that would hurt you if you messed about.

And starting with my first bbgun, I had to eat whatever I killed. I was lucky in that my granny and great aunts did not mind roasting possum and sweet potato, or baking me a blackbird pie.

Kids are leading the way on climate change. And since ag (mostly meat production) produces more carbon than the transportation sector, they are more knowledgeable than most adults on factory farms and the food supply chain.
 

Rottedroots

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I'm a gun owner and they really can't have my guns. I'm not voluntarily giving up squat. Contrary to popular beliefs the AR was NOT designed to kill a lot of people. They only carry 55gr bullets generally and the concept was that it took three combatants out of the fight. The wounded guy and the two others needed to carry the wounded one to safety. "Assault Rifles" account for less than one half of one percent of firearms crime a point that is never made. If Biden and the gun control lobby are overzealous the next Republican in line for the presidency will just undo what was done and so on and so on.
 

madvillian420

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I'm a gun owner and they really can't have my guns. I'm not voluntarily giving up squat. Contrary to popular beliefs the AR was NOT designed to kill a lot of people. They only carry 55gr bullets generally and the concept was that it took three combatants out of the fight. The wounded guy and the two others needed to carry the wounded one to safety. "Assault Rifles" account for less than one half of one percent of firearms crime a point that is never made. If Biden and the gun control lobby are overzealous the next Republican in line for the presidency will just undo what was done and so on and so on.
right lol. 223/5.56 is a glorified varmint round. It was mainly chosen by the military due to its light weight. I usually dont let the AR haters know that though haha, let them vilify the tiny bullets
 
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