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OldMedUser

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I'm happy you were able to transition into replacing pharmaceuticals with cannabis products. That is a very valuable life improvement that will serve you well. Depression is very tricky, I'm happy you've found the drive to be active and do the things you enjoy.

We have things set up to operate in Canada in the future. Initially we will be launching with just our Elite and Mini, no DIY COB kits. Our fixtures are precision machine drilled, so I would think the consistency of just having finished products to buy would outweigh any DIY kit benefit. I will consider it though. Our Elite would replace your 1000W HID in spectacular fashion. It is comprised of 13 COBs arranged in equidistance, with 8 lower-powered Samsung Strips along the perimeter, to relieve the natural centralized intensity in the footprint. If you have any questions about DIY, I am happy to answer. I truly hope you find further remedy for your depression. Its great that you have things to keep you active and out of the negative head spaces. Be well my friend.
Thanks for the kind words man. You learn to live with mental pain as well as physical. Compared to so many mine is not so bad.

I might have forgot to mention that I also worked in a 2 - 3 man machine shop for 5 years with a German Master machinist that loved to teach and have a buttload of tools for wood, metal and automotive that I know how to use well. My neighbour is cool about letting me make things or work on my vehicles in his fully equipped heavy duty farm shop. Pull engines out of a Mack in there if you need too. I thought I had a lot of tools. :)

I think I did a pretty good job on my little DIY unit. Used aluminum angle iron to mount the fixtures on. Drilled and tapped a few holes for machine screws and kept everything square like Gus taught me. Wired it to code tho probably not quite as the back is open. All the bulbs are on 6" centers.

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I'm too poor to pay people to fix things so it's DIY or DWO.

Use it up, wear it out.
Make it do, or do without. ;)

Thanks for the info and maybe by the time you're settled in Canada I'll be ready to part with some cash.

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OldMedUser

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get those black wires capped! for real!
Don't worry man. That cap was left off for the picture to show that I used the wire nuts that have that brass threaded bit that uses a set screw to lock the wires in real good then you screw the cap on. Very secure.

I hate shocks so am very careful and worked as an electricians helper for almost a year in my youth. Have the first year apprentices code book that covers all basic house wiring from installing the breaker box to the mains to calculating loads and requirements.

Keep one hand behind your back when working on wiring that you might have flipped the wrong breaker for. Worse that happens is you get a little zap or even a slight burn on a finger. Ain't gonna kill ya or even make you fall off a ladder. :)

Good catch tho!

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Hydro4life

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I think you missed the sarcasm.

LED lights make better quality.
Hahaha. Yep totally missed it!! :wall:
Definately nothing wrong with the quality of Odins buds. Looks like hes got things dialled in rather nicely. Wonder what he would of yielded with that set up using HIDs!? Even IF quality is SLIGHTLY better, is the loss in weight really worth it??
 

Odin*

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Hahaha. Yep totally missed it!! :wall:
Definately nothing wrong with the quality of Odins buds. Looks like hes got things dialled in rather nicely. Wonder what he would of yielded with that set up using HIDs!? Even IF quality is SLIGHTLY better, is the loss in weight really worth it??
Who said anything about “weight loss”? We’re not talking about “Bud Lite” here. Large and dense. Reference; my “paw” is 4 7/8”/~12.5cm wide (PB&J pic), packs are “footballs”.

One of my “pickiest” friends (who has even “pickier” friends) prefers the LED grown to HID.
 

Hydro4life

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Who said anything about “weight loss”? We’re not talking about “Bud Lite” here. Large and dense. Reference; my “paw” is 4 7/8”/~12.5cm wide (PB&J pic), packs are “footballs”.

One of my “pickiest” friends (who has even “pickier” friends) prefers the LED grown to HID.
I dont get why people would even consider growing with HIDs then??o_O
 

ttystikk

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Hahaha. Yep totally missed it!! :wall:
Definately nothing wrong with the quality of Odins buds. Looks like hes got things dialled in rather nicely. Wonder what he would of yielded with that set up using HIDs!? Even IF quality is SLIGHTLY better, is the loss in weight really worth it??
I sure didn't lose weight when I grew with LED. The nugs were smaller- but that's only because they got dense and rock hard. They were heavier, too. No fluffy buds under LED!
 

ttystikk

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I'm almost 65 so can't expect this beat up machine to run forever. :) In Feb I finally got an MRI to check for prostate cancer as my PSA went way up to over 10 from 4 in 3 years. An almost certain sign of prostate cancer in most doctor's eyes but I got a completely clean bill of health. Just old fart pee-pee issues that I have made almost normal using various minerals and herbs. At least as good as when I was 50 I figure.

I'm the only one in the house that does pot and has grow his own steady since moving here in '01 with 6 hash plant clones and dreams of making big cash. I grew my first buds in '78 and have studied pot more than most experts since. Took a break for 3 years in the late 80s to go back to school and get a diploma in environmental chemistry. Only grew sporadically from '78 - '01 but was involved in others grows off and on in the lower mainland of BC. Knew a few Angels and worked at some huge grow ops they were running.

Got involved in pot forums a little over 10 years ago. I started playing around with DWC in late '01 from info I read about hydroponics and after a few days at the library basically invented growing pot in tubs of nutrients for myself. Even wrote to Ed Rosenthal at Cannabis Culture magazine and asked what he thought of this idea and he was really negative about it. He had an Ask Ed column going back then.
Have to find that mag in my near complete collection.

The now defunct CC forums was the first I joined and when it shut down last Jan I was the Admin there known as LabRat. My basic thing in forums is helping new growers get a crop in and has been from the start. Some good people here doing the same thing but quite a few that need a little kick in the ass once in a while to act a little more human. They should be thankful I'm not a mod here or they would be getting time outs to think about their sins. ;)

My biggest problem with keeping it together is chronic depression that started after a near fatal hammer attack in Calgary back about 40 years ago. Not going to bore you with the details but it was self medicating with lots of booze and an open prescription for demerol and valium the doc gave me. After near eating my .303 I got off those pills and on to antidepressants. Tried 'em all over the years but haven't had any for at least 25 years. Being a zombie sux and a nice sativa works a lot better. CBD pot wit a little THC made into cocobudder really helps with the arthritis and the depression.

I rarely have clear skies but when the dark clouds roll in it can be months before I can take care of basics and my garden goes to shit. Getting more active no matter how much it hurts and things are looking up . . . for now. ;)

Enough of that. Do you guys deal in Canada here and have those DIY COB kits? I'm no electrician but do my own house wiring to code, build my own computers, fix them for friends and sometimes cash and can fix damn near anything so building my own rig would be a fun project. I'm expanding my grow room and it would be nice to build something that can replace a 1000W HID and do a side by side. Just want to add on an 8x4' flowering room and use the current room for veg only. It's 7x9' and was a cold storage room the previous owner built. One of the main selling points for me and the day we moved in I was ripping out the shelving so I could move my plants from town into it ASAP. Still haven't painted the walls so there's horizontal brown stripes where the shelves used to be. It's only been 17 years. lol

Wish the wife was into it or even my step-daughter but I'm on my own up here in Bumf**k, AB. Time for a new woman. One that likes growing pot, catching fish and doing the giggity fairly often. Huge bonus if she has a boat! :)

Damn. Just procrastinated away another hour with plants to tend to. :D

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My folks just retired in Canada, in eastern BC. One of these days I'm going to go visit and it would be cool to swing by your place and visit.

Ed Rosenthal had his gig and hydro wasn't really his thing. That doesn't mean hydro isn't good growing tech.

I can definitely help out with DWC tips, I've had plenty of practice.

If you want honest advice about where to get LED lights and parts, PM me.

I'm getting to be an old fart too. Or maybe it's old shart...
 

budman111

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No disrespect ttystikk, and correct me if im wrong but i dont think ive ever seen an LED grow where anyone has gotten over 3 pounds to a light??
With enough LED coverage I'm sure someone has, trouble is the small footprint from one LED panel, I would go HID for more area M2 coverage if not for the light pollution and heat.
 

Hydro4life

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With enough LED coverage I'm sure someone has, trouble is the small footprint from one LED panel .
Whats the max true power draw from an LED? Surely would have to be 1000w or more? Guys have been consistantly getting 3 a light with 1000w HIDs!! Would be nice to be proven wrong here. Cause if LEDs produce more than HIDs, ill be changing my setup! But wont change to LEDs because someone says it produces the same or more in terms of yield to HIDs. If someone has proof, im all ears :lol:
 

budman111

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Whats the max true power draw from an LED? Surely would have to be 1000w or more? Guys have been consistantly getting 3 a light with 1000w HIDs!! Would be nice to be proven wrong here. Cause if LEDs produce more than HIDs, ill be changing my setup! But wont change to LEDs because someone says it produces the same or more in terms of yield to HIDs. If someone has proof, im all ears :lol:
I got the Budmaster GOD 4 and there is a youtube vid by icemud testing it and it draws between 169w/170w from the wall and they are powerfull Diods, I get roughly 400w HPS buds in comparison.

 

Hydro4life

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I got the Budmaster GOD 4 and there is a youtube vid by icemud testing it and it draws between 169w/170w from the wall and they are powerfull Diods, I get roughly 400w HPS buds in comparison.

How much do you produce on average from a 400w hps budman??
 

Hydro4life

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That's subjective but I personally would look for at least 3-4oz in a small cupboard per plant
Thanks for your honesty budman. If you are using a 400w and getting 3 to 4 ozs a plant (presuming you only have 1 plant under your 400w hps) then i think your not utilising your 400w hps to its full potential and is not really a good comparison to the LED you are using.
 

coreywebster

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Thanks for your honesty budman. If you are using a 400w and getting 3 to 4 ozs a plant (presuming you only have 1 plant under your 400w hps) then i think your not utilising your 400w hps to its full potential and is not really a good comparison to the LED you are using.
But if he had 4 plants that would be awesome right! :bigjoint:
 

budman111

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Thanks for your honesty budman. If you are using a 400w and getting 3 to 4 ozs a plant (presuming you only have 1 plant under your 400w hps) then i think your not utilising your 400w hps to its full potential and is not really a good comparison to the LED you are using.
My cupboard is tiny, a 600w was too hot, lde love a bigger grow area!
 
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