Lighting question for a 4 x 8 tent but the real point is stealth trimming.

Discussion in 'Grow Room Design & Setup' started by Mariano Gomes, Feb 13, 2018.

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    Mariano Gomes

    Mariano Gomes Active Member

    So I was originally going to get a 5 x 5 tent but when I researched on stealth trimming almost all feedback is it's gonna stink up the house. So I thought of this solution. What if I get a 4 x 8 tent then just light up half of it and grow on just one side. So I would have space on the other half of the tent to do some trimming with 0 scent.

    My questions are

    Is it ok to just light one side of a tent and place plants on just one side or does a tent need to be packed with lights in regards to efficiency and the plants getting more par and lumens?

    Will I fit in one half of this tent to do trimming when the time comes or do I need an 8x8?
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Yes of course its fine to just light up half your tent and only grow in half of it.

    I flower in a 4x8 and its full, its a staggered perpetual grow, when one crop is ready to chop and trim I squeeze the plants that are ready to one side and squeeze myself in there and start work. ( this is called trim jail, coined by @lukio ). So you could use the whole tent to grow in if you wanted.
    I wont trim outside my tent because it does stink otherwise, I have special clothes that I wear for trimming and they don't leave the grow room. I walk in bollox swinging and walk out the same and get straight into a hot bath, I wear gloves at all times and will not be disturbed by anything short of a fire. :bigjoint:
     
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    lukio

    lukio Well-Known Member

    @coreywebster " trim jail" been around a lot longer than me (:

    i grow in a flat surrounded by neighbours and i ram my 4x8s, i get in em to trim too, you dont wanna be trimming anywhere else if your freedom is on the line!

    Apart from getting real sweaty, sticky and covered in cut up scrog net it's a fun time. Bollocks swinging is optional haha! gloves are a must

    i unzip, cut whole and hang so theres room to manoeuvre and work in from there...its savage. hang for 10 days then manicure.

    i also add ona gel to my ducts cause im super paranoid... but where i grow is really totally taking the piss so...
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    Thanks :)

    Yeah bro penalty for growing here is life. Another question for you 2 would be what would be the best filter Phresh, Can or mountain air? And will it totally eliminate the smell?
     
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    lukio

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    i use mountain air, very happy with em. where are you extracting to? id say they get rid of all smell...
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    how bout during the height of flowering?
     
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    lukio

    lukio Well-Known Member

    yeah man all good
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    I am extracting to outside the tent into the room and the windows will be sealed
     
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    lukio

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    you might struggle with temps and humidity, you'll need some fresh air, bro
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    So would you think it would be ok to keep the windows open there won't be any problems with smell?
     
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    lukio

    lukio Well-Known Member

    plenty of extraction and youll be fine. carbon filters struggle when theyre turned down or the humidity is really high, which you dont want anyways - 60% Humidity in flower is as high as ya wanna go, otherwise bud rot could be an issue
     
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    lukio

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    if its hot where you live, run the lights at night and make sure you dont have any light leaks
     
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    Mariano Gomes

    Mariano Gomes Active Member

    Yeah it is hot here. How bout the fans which fans are quiet or is a muffler silencer sufficient enough to lessen the noise?
     
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    lukio

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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Yeah you don't want to be doing that, what happens is you are constantly recirculating the same air and each time it goes through your tent it gains a degree or two in temp and also loses co2 which is vital.

    Personally I use a rhino filter and extract into a chimney. Mountain air are the cream of the crop for filters, but mine has no smell and I have climbed onto my roof to check.
    Noise is my next main concern because I don't want my neighbours talking or breaking in.. I use a fan called airforce2 its built into a silencer. Its still loud if I don't turn it down with a speed controller. I also use acoustic ducting which helps with the wooshing noise.
    The best thing to do for noise is buy bigger fan and filter than needed and turn it down. That also prolongs the life of the filter.
    I replace mine about every 18 months but have let one run over two years without noticing any smell.

    Back in the late 90s we used to grow without filters in attics and on harvest day you could smell it for a couple of miles. I was young and foolish.

    The simplest advice I can offer as a whole is don't cheap out on the important things, especially the things that keep you from getting caught. :bigjoint:
     
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    Lucky Luke

    Lucky Luke Well-Known Member

    Agreed. I run a silenced fan with a fan speed controller. The Whoosh (mainly at the exit) is a problem and like you I will have to attend to it. I'm thinking upping to 2 or 3 sizes up on the exit ducting to slow the vortex down.


    OP, as Corey and others say. Don't buy cheap. I did and it cost me more and created dramas that wouldn't of happened if I had of spent the money in the first place.

    If your going to a sealed room environment then your looking at AC and CO2 with the relevant controllers. Gets expensive very fast.
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    Thats the brand I was planning on buying first but after further research it is the whoosh at the end that is noisy. That's why I am thinking of going for 8" inches instead of 6" with a normal active air and just sticking 2 mufflers at the end. and ducting a 4x4 which will be used for drying for now and a 4x8 for vegging/flowering through a 6" 6" to 8" Y adapter. And maybe put a box with acoustic foam around the fan.
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    Hmmmm Do you think an 8' active air (with a dimmer) in a cardboard box and a ton of acoustic foam around it plus 2 silencer mufflers in the end be enough to silence it? Or should I get the more expensive silent fans like Soler & Palau? Cus I noticed the silent fans have a lower CFM.
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    I was thinking of going c02 but another guy at another site said since my AC is installed permanently to my room there would be problems with odor coming out of the AC. So it might end up more expensive and un secure
     
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    Mariano Gomes

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    My usual humidity here is 60%-70%. Should it be 60% and below? I might need a dehumidifier as well......
     

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