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DankBudzzz

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How come nobody mentioned hps? I got my 1000 watt hps with hortilux eye bulb for 250 after tax, been using it for veg and flower for years. Cobs are more efficient but much more costly up front. Mars are ok but I'd go with the hps, if you shop around you could or definitely get a 400 or 600 hps for 150, you can also buy a 2 foot 4 bulb high output t5 on amazon for around 100
 

Kingrow1

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See now we have had these arguments before about leds and t5's and leds got a severe kicking by many hps growers who simply refuse to be outdone by leds, their pictures kinda ended the argument although no one was saying leds are shit.

Rm3 and others been getting over a gram a watt with short plants under t5s so be carefull what you say about them as youll only get bitten.

Site is full of top hps and t5 grows and has been for years, slag them off at your own risk as that divide will only end up in leds being second best and some growers that just lurk here making more than just a point.

There are no bad sides to yeilds under any three of these lights and the rest is down to skills as a grower. Personally i wont pay for cobs and never looked at my hps and thought it was redundant :-)
 

trich0me$

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How come nobody mentioned hps? I got my 1000 watt hps with hortilux eye bulb for 250 after tax, been using it for veg and flower for years. Cobs are more efficient but much more costly up front. Mars are ok but I'd go with the hps, if you shop around you could or definitely get a 400 or 600 hps for 150, you can also buy a 2 foot 4 bulb high output t5 on amazon for around 100
too much heat and bulky.
 

trich0me$

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Use real world results this cat is boutta get 5oz from ONE Mars 300 led that costs 70$..
that's real results. don't listen to the haters.
t5 don't penetrate , cobs too expensive right now and hps are inefficient, bulky and a lot of heat to deal with. also need a lot of height or you'll burn the plants.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/day-40-flowering-blue-dream-mars-hydro-300.930577/#post-13245838
 

Kingrow1

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Use real world results this cat is boutta get 5oz from ONE Mars 300 led that costs 70$..
that's real results. don't listen to the haters.
t5 don't penetrate , cobs too expensive right now and hps are inefficient, bulky and a lot of heat to deal with. also need a lot of height or you'll burn the plants.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/day-40-flowering-blue-dream-mars-hydro-300.930577/#post-13245838
I have no problem with Mars since they openly admit that they dont like the cost of cobs and hence forth adopt a different marketing path but you have no right to call hps inefficient, this whole site was founded on them and not all of us live where its too hot, leds are too cold for where i live without a little supplemental heat.

Getting slightly annoyed with people just outright trying to pick on hps, really....!
 

Yodaweed

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I have no problem with Mars since they openly admit that they dont like the cost of cobs and hence forth adopt a different marketing path but you have no right to call hps inefficient, this whole site was founded on them and not all of us live where its too hot, leds are too cold for where i live without a little supplemental heat.

Getting slightly annoyed with people just outright trying to pick on hps, really....!
Don't worry bro, that guy can only get a few ounces off his whole grow while us HPS users are harvesting pounds, looks like we get the last laugh.
 

Kingrow1

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Don't worry bro, that guy can only get a few ounces off his whole grow while us HPS users are harvesting pounds, looks like we get the last laugh.
Its getting a little redundant now, making me think that its more newbies who werent present for the last decade and just started growing :-(
 

Yodaweed

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Its getting a little redundant now, making me think that its more newbies who werent present for the last decade and just started growing :-(
Yea a lot of the really good growers have left, it's a little sad but meh what can you do. I find that a lot of these LED users are living in some type of fantasy land.....
 

Kingrow1

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Yea a lot of the really good growers have left, it's a little sad but meh what can you do. I find that a lot of these LED users are living in some type of fantasy land.....
I hate that it even comes up, no grow lights are that bad or we wouldnt all be stoned.

Whatever happened to plasma, they were awesome too?
 

DankBudzzz

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Use real world results this cat is boutta get 5oz from ONE Mars 300 led that costs 70$..
that's real results. don't listen to the haters.
t5 don't penetrate , cobs too expensive right now and hps are inefficient, bulky and a lot of heat to deal with. also need a lot of height or you'll burn the plants.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/day-40-flowering-blue-dream-mars-hydro-300.930577/#post-13245838
HPS is not inefficient if you know what your doing. It isn't any hotter then the equivalent wattage of a mars. Plain and simple hps is the best cheap system on the market and there's a reason it's been around so long. I've had the same 1 k light for 7 years and I bought it for 225 replaced the bulb once and it still performs as good as a cob system that will cost me over 1000 bucks up front. Not knocking cobs but they are pricy for most hobby growers.
 

Yodaweed

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I hate that it even comes up, no grow lights are that bad or we wouldnt all be stoned.

Whatever happened to plasma, they were awesome too?
I try to tell that to people but they don't listen much , i know i can grow good quality buds under just about any light, i have finished plants under leds,cfls,t5's, hps , mh lights, and now i am testing out a cmh light. I really think it's mostly the gardener.
 

Kingrow1

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HPS is not inefficient if you know what your doing. It isn't any hotter then the equivalent wattage of a mars. Plain and simple hps is the best cheap system on the market and there's a reason it's been around so long. I've had the same 1 k light for 7 years and I bought it for 225 replaced the bulb once and it still performs as good as a cob system that will cost me over 1000 bucks up front. Not knocking cobs but they are pricy for most hobby growers.
Word....!
 

Kingrow1

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I try to tell that to people but they don't listen much , i know i can grow good quality buds under just about any light, i have finished plants under leds,cfls,t5's, hps , mh lights, and now i am testing out a cmh light. I really think it's mostly the gardener.
I too have done good grows under t8s, t5s, cfls and hps. I do see a couple lights out there that are up and coming but price and taking a chance are too big a step. Id try cobs if they were a lot cheaper.

Whats the deal with cmh, no reason not to give it a run down here?
 

Yodaweed

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I too have done good grows under t8s, t5s, cfls and hps. I do see a couple lights out there that are up and coming but price and taking a chance are too big a step. Id try cobs if they were a lot cheaper.

Whats the deal with cmh, no reason not to give it a run down here?
Seems really bright to me, i got a conversion kit so i just reused a reflector , check it out for yourself, it was cheap like 240$ total with the bulb http://growershouse.com/ceramic-science-315w-cmh-light-conversion-kit
 

trich0me$

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I have no problem with Mars since they openly admit that they dont like the cost of cobs and hence forth adopt a different marketing path but you have no right to call hps inefficient, this whole site was founded on them and not all of us live where its too hot, leds are too cold for where i live without a little supplemental heat.

Getting slightly annoyed with people just outright trying to pick on hps, really....!
they are power hogs. you can get just as much bud from leds with less power consumption and less heat. Fact.
I have nothing against hps don't get me wrong. leds are just better for the money currently.
 

Kingrow1

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they are power hogs. you can get just as much bud from leds with less power consumption and less heat. Fact.
I have nothing against hps don't get me wrong. leds are just better for the money currently.
That was based on true wattage, leds save nothing in comparison.
 
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