Male plants growing pistils...

I was doing an open pollination run with an heirloom genetic. I had four males. I looked tonight and found that 3 of the 4 males were throwing out pistils. I was not expecting that at all. I have never seen a female of this line herm ever. I got cuts of some bomb looking girls but now I culled the males and the seeds will be garbage. There is a black cloud over me. I haven't cut the remaining male but took off the top half and removed it. I gotta save it. It did smell skunky when I chopped it halfway. That's why I stopped when culling it.
I ran the seedlings from germination on 11/13 in order to fit everything in. I've never heard of stress making a male reverse, they must be true hermaphrodites.

skink#1 said:

I was doing an open pollination run with an heirloom genetic. I had four males. I looked tonight and found that 3 of the 4 males were throwing out pistils. I was not expecting that at all. I have never seen a female of this line herm ever. I got cuts of some bomb looking girls but now I culled the males and the seeds will be garbage. There is a black cloud over me. I haven't cut the remaining male but took off the top half and removed it. I gotta save it. It did smell skunky when I chopped it halfway. That's why I stopped when culling it.
I ran the seedlings from germination on 11/13 in order to fit everything in. I've never heard of stress making a male reverse, they must be true hermaphrodites.

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Pictures? I’ve seen it a few times. What was the strain?

Well, I could be selfing hype clone A to hype clone B and calling it a day. But now the sacrifice to breed comes into play. Quite frankly I'm tired of it. I've done a lot already and I wish I could just grow sinsemilla.

green_machine_two9er said:

Pictures? I’ve seen it a few times. What was the strain?

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Skunk#1,no pics of the males. Except what I kept.

I saw this happen with the Amnesia Male. Although, I was light stressing the hell out of that plant. It was in the living room with all the other males, and no other male threw pistils.

It doesn't necessarily mean that it will produce hermi progeny. The gene pool will be sensitive though. You can breed stable plants from the next generation and continue to improve the lineage that way.

Farmer's Hat said:

I saw this happen with the Amnesia Male. Although, I was light stressing the hell out of that plant. It was in the living room with all the other males, and no other male threw pistils.

It doesn't necessarily mean that it will produce hermi progeny. The gene pool will be sensitive though. You can breed stable plants from the next generation and continue to improve the lineage that way.

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Like I've said before... Mother nature will fuck you innthe ass when you least expect it. The only time I'll ever toss a plant for hermi is if it's got balls. Nanners are stress and that can be breed out with corrections to the stress mechanism, creating stability and vigor. But subsequent generations are more inclined to adapt this stress tolerance, whereas if the the stress correction isn't made and followed generations subdue, that tendency/sensitivity is passed on.

Environmental conditions are everything!!!

Farmer's Hat said:

I saw this happen with the Amnesia Male. Although, I was light stressing the hell out of that plant. It was in the living room with all the other males, and no other male threw pistils.

It doesn't necessarily mean that it will produce hermi progeny. The gene pool will be sensitive though. You can breed stable plants from the next generation and continue to improve the lineage that way.

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Well there's gonna be a bunch of seed from what already happened. Your welcome to test all you want. Though I gotta say the one that didn't throw pistils was the earliest and had a fan blowing on it. I was pulling flowers off of all of them to slow them down. But the one in the photo spilt alot of pollen and in front of the fan. It's true that mainly the apex flower was herming on each plant. I did consider light stress. Especially since from seed they stretch tremendously up towards the light and if I had of turned it down they may not have hermed. I doubt any girls will herm.

I never considered that this sativa leaning cultivar might act funny under an LED in a tent.
Now I gotta decide is the stress of doing this worth it. Stress because I don't feel safe, I do enjoy my work. Am I really saving anything? That comes down to do you know what you have and I do know what I have.
I dreamed of making a living on selling Sk#1 seeds. That's not going to happen but I think Farmers Hat is right, these males only have the same propensity to herm indoors under LED as many sativas that get stressed under LED( or should I say Western Commercial Sativas to be correct in today's world.) I stopped seed production but what I did produce might not be passing a true herm trait. That remains to be seen.

With the number of seeds i'm eating per year, i will say that it's frequent now in most of reg lines since a good dozen of years.
Majors or not.

GreenGenez421 said:

Environmental conditions are everything!!!

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Chemically-induced monoecy within one generation ... have consequences, too. And on the long term as well.