eastcoastled
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I think you mean ninja fruit lol
Mass Medical Strains - EEEEE!
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cardgenius
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Haha love it! Let’s hope all of “his” stains get renamed. Ive got some Putang growing right now, was thinking about calling it “Strung Out” after seeing recent pics of the guy. Dude looks like a junky.
Imagine blindly believing strains were stolen when they are not, there is no evidence, and there are very clear differences in all of them when grown side by side. Then you decided to rename it. You're then the guilty one. Do your due diligence.
Growitpondifarm
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Can’t wait till federal legalization so that all these wannabe plant breeders get blown out of the water by real AG Breeders and packs of seeds are $4.50 for 25 seeds . Can order them alongside my brandywine tomatoes .
bongrip101
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Log back out bud
Bodyne
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Look at the side by sides per post on stoned ninjas IG, then hollar, but yes with new drop, starting to look like publicity stunt
stealthfader508
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Purple Fingerboarder ... i think i read somewhere it has "devastating potency with an out of body trippy vibe, which then morphs into a breathtakingly psychoactive roller coaster ride, but most of all has a super positive spiritual and healing vibe, both mentally and physically "
nc208
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Lol you have no idea what your talking about. Its federally legal up here and you can grab 4 beans for 50-60 bucks of mediocre shit. Yeah you must be Hella excited for that. Be real price of Cannabis beans will never be the price of a pack of corn beans. Not when the end product is fetching 10$ a gram vs corn thats less than 5c A cob to the farmer growing them.
Coalcat
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Wait 10 more years.... cannabis is nothing special... it produces copious amounts of seeds. When it’s legal and big ag starts smashing together strains and stabilizing stuff you better believe the price is gonna drop. As for the price for gram...again it’s nothing special...it’s like any plant.
Growitpondifarm
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Yes I understand that for now. But there is just no chance cannabis prices will stay at $10/gram as more competition enters the market. These prices are still holdover from the black market days and don’t show the true value of cannabis. No one paying $10/gram of tomatoes or cucumbers...
nc208
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Cannabis seeds will always be expensive as long as Cannabis is expensive. I persinally don't see Big AG entering this game as much as big Pharma and Tobacco companies and they will want to see it stay profitable as ever.
Growitpondifarm
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Yea , I believe there’s very little chance cannabis stays at current prices as prohibition around the world comes to an end. They’re is a reason no one is setting up warehouses to grow tomatoes , not economically viable. They’re will always be boutique breeders but in ten years I think people will be looking back at these ridiculously inflated seed prices and laughing. 10+ dollar a seed is a joke. Even cut flower seeds which may be the most comparable crop in terms of pricing aren’t even close to that expensive.
stealthfader508
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once it's legalized federally that'll be the end of US grown cannabis, and the wholesale prices will bottom out completely... but I imagine the consumer prices won't ever change much from $10/g... even if it costs $2 to buy wholesale, the govt will find a way to take the other $8/g in taxes
most importantly, federal legalization would mean we could import cannabis from other countries ... and let's be honest, Mexico's sitting pretty right now.... they're already beating the US to the punch on federal legalization ... for example, Mexico City sits at 19.4N latitude ... they get about 13.5 hrs of sunlight on 6/21 and 12.5 hrs on 12/21 ... they have perfect flowering conditions year round ... all they need is a few hours of weak supplemental light to keep their veg greenhouses running... and then miles upon miles of flowering greenhouses producing non-stop .... we can't replicate that production cost anywhere in the US ... light dep greenhouses don't come close to that production .... and certainly not under lights either... everything will eventually come from mexico and south america, just like it all began
as for seeds ... you know as soon as big ag gets it's hands on cannabis they'll breed and create their own product, and yea they'll prob end up trademarking the shit out of it ... at least the strain names anyway ... breeders as we know them today will always exist, but canna growers are just a tiny subculture that gets even smaller once it's legalized across the country ... not as many people will grow when they can buy weed legally at any corner store ... I imagine some of today's best breeders (that base their work on actual science) will hook on with big ag and work in their labs ... and there'll be others that remain to fill the niche market ... but for the most part, the days of selling packs of seeds for $125, while working out of a few tents in your mothers basement, will be over once federal legalization happens.
JoeBlow5823
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With all the taxes, prices will stay high. Might come down a bit but not much. Its incredibly cheap to make alcohol too. The majority of the cost of liquor is taxes.
JoeBlow5823
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You beat me to it. I doubt we will see ounces going for 560 dollars plus tax (like the rec shops around me are charging) but I dont see it ever dipping under 10 a gram, especially anywhere with weather that isn't good for cannabis cultivation.
stealthfader508
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i would short any cannabis stock that relies on growing artificially ... it's crazy to me, I see all these giant grow ops setting up shop in warehouses with hundreds of lights ... they have to pay electric, heat, ac, taxes, insurance, testing, etc... all at US labor costs ... sure, it's filling a need right now, but it's an incredibly short sighted investment
Coalcat
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Aurora in Canada already has cost per gram down to .85 and that’s indoors. Excluding taxes it probably should be selling for around 2.00 a gram. Maybe a bit more depending of the retail stream. This is a bubble that has been deflating for awhile. Newness and artificial scarcity are keeping it inflated. The fed was talking about leagalization with a 5% tax. As soon as it’s federally legal states will start lowering their taxes to compete with neighboring states. Now imagine fields of sun grown and greenhouses. There will always be craft but it’s gonna be like beer...maybe 25-30% premium. It’s so cheap and easy to make it isn’t even going to rate like the scotch or whiskey market.
This has all happened before and will happen again.
#remember tulpenmanie
This has all happened before and will happen again.
#remember tulpenmanie
Coalcat
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I would agree except they might need “clean” grows for medical grade....but way smaller market.
Growitpondifarm
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Alcohol is still considerably cheaper than the cost of cannabis and requires much more labor to make the final product from the farmed materials. Cannabis flowers are cannabis flowers and require very little post production work or time compared to alcohol. By products are another story but I’m referring to the flowers. They are essentially a perishable product and perishable marketplaces, once opened up, will beat down the price guaranteed. The power of the sun is free. Even in environments that require greenhouse production using heat and some light supplementation , the cost to produce is much lower than full indoor production. Also as prohibition continues to be lifted, product will come from wherever it can be produced the cheapest for given part of the year. You’re not eating tomatoes in February that are being grown in Canada, unless they’re grown in greenhouses, which just reiterates my point. Not sure why so many people feel this is a negative, as a hobbyist I’m excited to see what type of seed lines will come about once real plant breeders enter the arena. Would love to buy a pack of seeds that I know what each plant will look like and what it’s disease resistance, finishing time etc is.
Coalcat
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I’m excited too. It’s going to flush a ton of money grubbing douche bags out of the way and it will be more craft passion stuff.
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