Mature goes perpetual :-)

v12xjs

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I love that pic of them all lined up in the growroom ms. I know what those girls will look like in a month and it's gonna be amazing in there. Might be time to consider odour control though.

lol look at me i'm zippy long stalking LMAO
I got it Pippy :)
 

maturesmoker

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I love that pic of them all lined up in the growroom ms. I know what those girls will look like in a month and it's gonna be amazing in there. Might be time to consider odour control though.

I got it Pippy :)
Hi V12 and thanks for the comments :-)

Re Odour control, well yes, you are right of course BUT the way I grow I really cant do it! I have my cab open morning to night, part of my daily routine, I move my plants a round the house and they go outside on sunny days! Besides: .........

Since I was arrested 2 years ago I have been painstakingly preparing for the day (if) it happens again. I've been following court cases up and down the country, and I've witnessed the increasing numbers of growers who are at last offering a defence based on 'abuse of process'. Its complex and I wont go into it here too deeply but its been gradually developing over the last couple of years and AT LAST it is to heard in the Court of Appeal. Basically this defence hinges upon proving that the Govt have illegally implimeted the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 which was never intended as a vehicle for prohibition but rather as harm limitation, and that in excluding alcohol and tobacco (both of course are also classified as psycho active drugs) under its wing the Govt has discriminated against a comparatively harmless substance (cannabis), statistically proven. Such discrimination is illegal under law. Home brewers of beer and wine have legal protection while cannabis growers are persecuted. In addition European human rights law protects our right to a private life and it protects our 'property rights' within our homes. All drugs are 'property' or 'things' under English common law. The Common Law of this country supports this I quote Odgers 'Common law of England'

CHAPTER III.
PRIVATE RIGHTS : RIGHTS OF OWNERSHIP.

We now proceed to describe private rights, and in the first place rights of property. Property consists of land or things, or rights in, to, or over land or things ; rights against persons are also, in a sense, property.

Land and things are tangible property. Rights in, to or over them are intangible property, and so are rights against persons.

Trees and growing crops, and all buildings erected on land, are part of the land and pass with it on any transfer of ownership. But timber, hay and corn that is cut, are things. [harvested plants are 'things' to which you have rights over]

Ownership is the right to hold, use and enjoy land or things to the exclusion of every one else.


There is much in the law that actually protects our rights to grow and use cannabis! Its the Government who have illegally used the MoD act to force cannabis prohibition.

So now, finally we have a legal challenge to take place in the Court of Appeal. To get there Ed Stratton has refused a caution 4 times, elected for Crown Court and to be tried by Jury, refused to enter a plea. Only yesterday he refused to exercise his right to Jury nullification on the basis that only a 'guilty' verdict would take him straight to appeal. Why? because a 'not guilty' verdict yesterday would have meant he walked away from court and that would set no precedent for future cases of cannabis related prosecution. HOWEVER if he wins his appeal (and the judge said to him that there may well be grounds for changes based upon his evidence and defence and indeed steered Ed in that direction,) then it changes things for every single one of us here! .....it really is that ground breaking, an end to cannabis prosecutions in this country AT LAST. They have won significant victories along the way and earlier this month the Govt were forced to release a suppressed draft paper in which it was acknowledged that MoD Act was in need of a complete overhaul. That in itself was an amazing victory and forms a part of the evidence, the Govt secretly acknowledging its own failings and concerns over the act was not something 'we' were supposed to find out about and the paper was suppressed by Govt.

We are getting very close now!

I make no apologies for this long post, its in the interest of all of us UK personal growers to arm ourselves with such knowledge. Finally here's Ed's words from yesterday about how the case proceeded to Appeal. Note his words and refusal to go for jury nullification, I reckon we should all raise a spliff to Ed tonight for this achievement :bigjoint:


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Convicted! It's the result we needed.

I argued on behalf of sick people and people who want to relax with a spliff. I told the jury that the law is bad, and that sick people like me as well as responsible peaceful adult cannabis smokers were caught in its dragnet. I welcomed the jury's sympathy, and told them that in spite of my admission to the facts of the case - yes, I grew cannabis - I had to plead Not Guilty to preserve my integrity and honour.

I told the jury that this court has no power to rule on a bad law, it can only apply it - the place to argue that the law is bad is the Court of Appeal.

I then told them they had the power to acquit me even in spite of the facts and evidence - jury nullification. Then surreally, I said:

"but I will not be asking you to do that today..."

"Because I want to go to the Court of Appeal, and if acquitted, that is the end of the matter and I am in the same position next week if I choose to grow cannabis."

"So ladies and gentlemen, if you have any sympathy for me, you will convict. Help me out here today."

So surreal it was, that the Police Officer who presided over my case was in paroxysms of laughter. The judge was very amused with my thumbs up to the jury when they said "guilty"...

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Back soon with updates!!!!!!!!!!!
 

ImTheFireMan

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these cfl grows in the small boxes always blow my mind.
good job. pic 2 on post 139 has a great lookin plant in the middle.
i dont do the journal thing but i am also doing a perpetual grow.
here's a pic of my flowering side.
 

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tamjam69

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wow what a good read there my brain was struggling then lol :-P i will make sure i remember that and yes what a man Ed is !! lets hope this changes things:lol: i think i will light up 3 to that!!

thanks for writing that

plus we just smoked a fat j of the snow white which made that even better :-P
 

maturesmoker

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So, its day 38 of 12/12 for 'Trinny' the Mazar, its day 17 of 12/12 for the 2 mutant Snow White clones.

Lots of pics today showing all of the plants at various stages. In the veg box are 'Agatha' who's due to go 12/12 on Wednesday and 'Cynthia' who will be my bonsai mother for the Snow White strain.Also 2 clones from the mutants cut about 10 days ago.

Of the 2 flowering clones MsAngel is in the red pot. I had to tie her tops right down yesterday as you can see, for a nice flat canopy. The other 'perspicacia' (named after the young witch in Terry Pratchett's brilliantly funny 'The Wee Free Men' :-) ) is in a black pot. All pots are just 7" diameter for this grow except the mother whos going to live in her 4" pot.

You can see the growth rate for the mutants has been very good. I 'll leave them to flower now unless there is any further stretch when I'll have to tie them down more.

So far this grow has had nothing but BioBizz grow and bloom and I'll keep it that way. I will HAVE to take Trinny early for supply but she will go back in the veg box for a reveg for future cuttings. I find earlier you harvest the faster the plant will turn around again. But later harvests still reveg OK.

tamjam, first cuttings off the mazar will be yours if you want them :-) Its a good strain, very heavy stone, good taste too, but it will be nice to smoke something a bit more buzzy again when the SW's ready.
 

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v12xjs

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Ms Angel is easy the sexiest girl there :)
She's just a mass of budsites. I think I may have to check out that strain myself.
 

ganjaluvr

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looking alright so far man.. good luck.

you seem to be more on the intelligent side (as I).. so I'm sure you'll have no problems.

I'll be watching this one for sure.
 

tamjam69

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tamjam, first cuttings off the mazar will be yours if you want them :-) Its a good strain, very heavy stone, good taste too, but it will be nice to smoke something a bit more buzzy again when the SW's ready.
cheers MS that would be great, i would love to have a go at growing it :p would be fun, plus i know that it will have good genetics unlike if i bought a single seed it could end up crap.

thanks
 

maturesmoker

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Thanks for the comments all:-) and V12 I agree that MsAngel is looking good :-) But there's hardly anything between her and Perspicacia as you would expect. Here's some more shots of them together, both are nice and low to the pot which is my ideal point of flowering.

Also a shot of the 2 clones from tamjams shorter/slower mother. Finally, a shot of the latest clone 'Widdecombe' :-) about 12 days or so from cutting and just rooting. Other one behind will be passed onto a friend just as this strain was gifted to me :-)

So finally, plan now is: :roll::eyesmoke::roll::eyesmoke:

2 days time 'Agatha' goes into 12/12. That's exactly 3 weeks since the 2 mutants went 12/12.
Another 3 weeks time and 'Cynthia' will now follow her ( I have no real need now to keep the mother as I have time to veg up for cuttings from the next mutant!!!!) Challenge is going to be keeping Cynthia down for another 3 weeks though :blsmoke: I'll repot her shortly.

After that ( 6 weeks time) ...... 'Widdecombe' should be ready and will already have produced her cuttings.

PHEW...........:wall: ...so I think I know where this is going!!

Heres the pics.
 

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rocksteady6

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MS in everyone of your photos every single leaf looks so healthy. Well done. It seems you have the perpetual bug.
 

tags

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Hey MS. been keeping up to date with ur grow. looking healthy as ever. i have a quick question about lights. i was in a tesco there and spotted 3 23W soft white cfl for £1, are the soft white upto the job cos i noticed you were using warm whites?

cheers
tags
 

tamjam69

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wow look at them ladys :shock: those clones are flying on see the buds starting to form :-P

what happened? you sounded like you messed up your rota? but i see that you got it all worked out now:-P

gonna update the snow white in a bit, do you fancy a trainwreck and big bang cutting in a few weeks?
 

"SICC"

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Nice MS, i cant wait to see how the perpetual works out.
Im gonna try and model soemthiong after your experiences with this. Best of luck man :leaf:

+REP!!!!!
 

maturesmoker

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Hey MS. been keeping up to date with ur grow. looking healthy as ever. i have a quick question about lights. i was in a tesco there and spotted 3 23W soft white cfl for £1, are the soft white upto the job cos i noticed you were using warm whites?

cheers
tags
Cheers RS, SICC & tamjam.

Hi tags, yes they're OK, they're the same ones I been using :-) Are you going to add some blue in there? some 6500kelvin 'daylight' bulbs? There's a company called "Ecofriendlylightbulbs" UK, have a good online service for bulbs its hard to get locally.

Another quick update on the plants; 'Agatha' is going 12/12 today so better mark it here or i'll forget later down the line. Pictures show just 3 plants, snow whites:

MsAngel: in red pot - 3 weeks 1 day of 12/12 today. I love her :-)
perspicacia ; black pot same dates as above.

Both already frosting up!!! This sure is a vigorous one tamjam :-) compared to my mazar its like a BMW to a Skoda! You can see the budsights in the pics already. I'm so glad I took the clones from these 2 clones :-)

Also, 'Agatha' finally, nice plant I reckon and in perfect condition to go 12/12....if I say so myself!

Might have to chop Trinny at 7 weeks purely for supply! that's what the games about after all and one poor harvest can upset the plans a bit. But I'm confident that this SNOW WHITE will allow me to catch up in the near future :-)
 

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SimplyBaked

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looking really good! Looks live you give each girl her own special time and care. The buds are forming perfectly, and the lst is superb! +rep for this one MS im really lovin it!
 
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