Medical-2000W--sealed room-CO2-Ebb & Flo-PK,Mango,Papaya, Orange Crush Deisel

bob80

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I use the mini rw cubes, but you can just cut up a rw cube into small peices if you don't want to buy a $28 bag of mini's. The 4x4's have a square cut-out meant for the 1" cube. I put the rooted clone in the cut-out and very delicatly place the pre-soaked mini cubes around the stem and roots. You can leave them some what loose, so don't pack them down or the roots will break off the stem. Works great.


Sounds like a plan. Thanks really appreciate it.
 

lonleysmoka

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very nice. I really like the THC production for only being 19days or so!!! Just a great looking canopy! Very useful thread. I am looking forward to some kind of a sog grow still have some numbers to run....


again keep it up we all enjoy it!
 

bob80

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Thanks BR, they are sugaring up fast.


Thanks Bro. I actually didn't use anything in the pk tray around the baskets and used hygroton or silica stone in the OCD tray. I have to say though the silica stone isn't doing much for the roots, because it isn't gettig watered enough. I water flood once a day for the rw, but not enough for the stone. I am trying sure to grow next run. I will find a medium a like eventually. :)

Thanks bro!


B, it is so good to see you my friend. The pk last run actually didn't impress me to much. I over treated with green cure and they got burnt in week 4 and never really did much after that. I also let my res temps get too high. I have added res chillers this round so I am hoping they do better this run. I apreciate the props tho man.
Just wondering, why wouldn't you go with the way you did the PK all the time ? you know without anything in the tray around the net pots, seems cleaner and it looks like your PK is budding nicely at day 19 to me.... also is that Uncle Bens topping technique or what do you do ? your ladies look nice and uniform !! Thanks, last questions I promise, LOL.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:



very nice. I really like the THC production for only being 19days or so!!! Just a great looking canopy! Very useful thread. I am looking forward to some kind of a sog grow still have some numbers to run....


again keep it up we all enjoy it!
Thanks bud ;)

Sounds like a plan. Thanks really appreciate it.
Fore sure

Just wondering, why wouldn't you go with the way you did the PK all the time ? you know without anything in the tray around the net pots, seems cleaner and it looks like your PK is budding nicely at day 19 to me.... also is that Uncle Bens topping technique or what do you do ? your ladies look nice and uniform !! Thanks, last questions I promise, LOL.
Dude, ask as many questions as you like. The reason I change my medium so much is that I will always be wondering what the different mediums will do if I don't try them. I am a big coco fan, but not in a ebb/flow or flood and drain system. I am happy with the rockwool, but would like something that dries out a little quicker. The Sure to Grow is supposed to no grow algea. The only thing wrong with the rw in baskets has been some white mold growing on the top of the rw. I have been treating with Green Cure which keeps it in check, but would rather not have it at all. I have read a lot on the sure to grow and it sounded good enough to give it a try. http://www.suretogrow.com/
 

Someguy15

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Thanks bud ;)


Fore sure


Dude, ask as many questions as you like. The reason I change my medium so much is that I will always be wondering what the different mediums will do if I don't try them. I am a big coco fan, but not in a ebb/flow or flood and drain system. I am happy with the rockwool, but would like something that dries out a little quicker. The Sure to Grow is supposed to no grow algea. The only thing wrong with the rw in baskets has been some white mold growing on the top of the rw. I have been treating with Green Cure which keeps it in check, but would rather not have it at all. I have read a lot on the sure to grow and it sounded good enough to give it a try. http://www.suretogrow.com/
Depending on how that works out for you, give my medium a try :-P 50% Gordon RW Grow Chunks & 50% hydroton... little bit of a pita to prepare but it works wonders. Water it once a day or more they are happy (veg)... flower 3-4 times works great. Just another idea for ya, since I tried this I don't foresee myself switching anytime soon, works great.

Edit: I See STG makes 1" cubes too, hmmm maybe hydroton and those bad boys would work good together too. Then I don't have to prep RW and deal with the itchies lol
 

Integra21

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Thanks bud ;)


Fore sure


Dude, ask as many questions as you like. The reason I change my medium so much is that I will always be wondering what the different mediums will do if I don't try them. I am a big coco fan, but not in a ebb/flow or flood and drain system. I am happy with the rockwool, but would like something that dries out a little quicker. The Sure to Grow is supposed to no grow algea. The only thing wrong with the rw in baskets has been some white mold growing on the top of the rw. I have been treating with Green Cure which keeps it in check, but would rather not have it at all. I have read a lot on the sure to grow and it sounded good enough to give it a try. http://www.suretogrow.com/
Have you tried hydrotron or perlite or a combination of the 2. With the small amount of water they retain, you could be flooding your tables every hourn without problems I imagine. Im still a huge fan of my medium-less dwc. I never really advertised it in my thread, but I was growing sick of preping and washing hydrotron, so I decided to try cutting my clones and putting them in the net pots with only the neoprene inserts holding them in place and the netpots empty. This is how I always did my clones, but I would add hydrotron as soon as they rooted. Now I just skip that step all together and run them in the empty pots from start to finish and it works like a champ. The last 2 runs have been done this way. Maybe try makin a cover for your table, elevating the large cubes the plants are in with small racks or hydrotron or something, and just leave the roots exposed in the table with it constantly flooding, Giant circulating shallow water culture(I THINK IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE NFT), I know it might sound crazy or that Im a few screws short, but I dodnt see why that wouldnt work as good as my setup and get rid of all the time and money wasted on the mediums. I dont expect you to actually try it, but just putting a thought in the back of your mind.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Depending on how that works out for you, give my medium a try :-P 50% Gordon RW Grow Chunks & 50% hydroton... little bit of a pita to prepare but it works wonders. Water it once a day or more they are happy (veg)... flower 3-4 times works great. Just another idea for ya, since I tried this I don't foresee myself switching anytime soon, works great.

Edit: I See STG makes 1" cubes too, hmmm maybe hydroton and those bad boys would work good together too. Then I don't have to prep RW and deal with the itchies lol

You know I may try the stg with the hygromite in the baskets next run. Depending on how the stg works out this time. STG does make something called snow which is just loose medium which may work good mixed with hydroton or hygromite.

Have you tried hydrotron or perlite or a combination of the 2. With the small amount of water they retain, you could be flooding your tables every hourn without problems I imagine. Im still a huge fan of my medium-less dwc. I never really advertised it in my thread, but I was growing sick of preping and washing hydrotron, so I decided to try cutting my clones and putting them in the net pots with only the neoprene inserts holding them in place and the netpots empty. This is how I always did my clones, but I would add hydrotron as soon as they rooted. Now I just skip that step all together and run them in the empty pots from start to finish and it works like a champ. The last 2 runs have been done this way. Maybe try makin a cover for your table, elevating the large cubes the plants are in with small racks or hydrotron or something, and just leave the roots exposed in the table with it constantly flooding, Giant circulating shallow water culture(I THINK IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE NFT), I know it might sound crazy or that Im a few screws short, but I dodnt see why that wouldnt work as good as my setup and get rid of all the time and money wasted on the mediums. I dont expect you to actually try it, but just putting a thought in the back of your mind.
Your right on with the continous flooding probably having the best results. I have just been to spooked to try it. One pump goes down and you screwed. I have really thought hard about an nft system or even running pvc around the inside of my trays, adding a lid, and making a large aeroponics set up. Both of these would eliminate the medium all together. I think I need to work up to it. When I started I thought, "man I will never use anything other than coco". Now I am much more adventurous, so it may not be long before I am running a dwc or nft system. :)
 

bob80

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Thanks bud ;)


Fore sure


Dude, ask as many questions as you like. The reason I change my medium so much is that I will always be wondering what the different mediums will do if I don't try them. I am a big coco fan, but not in a ebb/flow or flood and drain system. I am happy with the rockwool, but would like something that dries out a little quicker. The Sure to Grow is supposed to no grow algea. The only thing wrong with the rw in baskets has been some white mold growing on the top of the rw. I have been treating with Green Cure which keeps it in check, but would rather not have it at all. I have read a lot on the sure to grow and it sounded good enough to give it a try. http://www.suretogrow.com/
So what topping technique do you use ? I think you may have forgot as you were answering my other question.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Reserviors temps 69 deg, lights on 78 deg, lights off 74 deg, CO2 1500 ppm, nutrients 1250 ppm, and RH 50-55%.
The ladies are looking great. The PK looks better than I have seen it at 4 weeks and the OCD is starting to fatten up.

Here are a few pics

The Canopy


Purple Kush







Orange Crush NYCD





 

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TheOldRat

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Great Work!
2k of light is a lot so great results should be expected I bet you will still find things to improve.
I think Hydroton would work instead of the mini rockwool cubes and they are reusable
but you would need to water more often if you use them, your ph should be more stable
a 4" rockwool cube in a tray of hydro ton is quiet popular
if your co2 is on a timer you can flood the tray at the same time... co2 sinks
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Great Work!
2k of light is a lot so great results should be expected I bet you will still find things to improve.
I think Hydroton would work instead of the mini rockwool cubes and they are reusable
but you would need to water more often if you use them, your ph should be more stable
a 4" rockwool cube in a tray of hydro ton is quiet popular
if your co2 is on a timer you can flood the tray at the same time... co2 sinks
Thanks for the comliment. I tried the hygromite, which is silica stone and similar to hydroton. The issue I have with running two different mediums is that they both require different watering frequencies. Rockwool holds so much moisture that I can't water the hygromite enough without keeping the rw too wet. I am trying out the sure to grow next round and have my clones in 6" cubes now. I may use the sure to grow pads in the bottom of the trays with the cubes on top, but haven't commited to that idea yet. I have a CO2 monitor controler on a timer that comes on 20 mins before the lights do so that the room saturates with co2 by the time the lights come on. My co2 emitter is is attached to the middle of my light mover over the trays so that the co2 drops on the plants.
 

Integra21

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Looking good as always Raider. That's a hell of a canopy. Looks like it's going to be a great harvest. Keep it up(which you always do).
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Looking good as always Raider. That's a hell of a canopy. Looks like it's going to be a great harvest. Keep it up(which you always do).
I appreciate the compliment my friend.

Amazing for 4 weeks bro.. daaamn!!
How much are you expecting from this?
Thanks, I am trying to keep my expectations low. So a pound from the pk and 2 from the ocd. Secretly though, I would love to get close to the gmt per watt mark.;
 

whodatnation

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God you work fast! You harvested about a week before me, I havent started flower for my next run and your already on week 4! Your canopy is looking SICK!, keep up the great work and im on the sidelines taking notes. :-)
 

#1Raiderfan420

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God you work fast! You harvested about a week before me, I havent started flower for my next run and your already on week 4! Your canopy is looking SICK!, keep up the great work and im on the sidelines taking notes. :-)
That closeup shot of the purple kush is quite incredible, good job brother. Both growing and shooting the pics. Nice

Thanks bro. Yea my last veg went well, so there was no down time. My current veg isn't going as smooth, so I will have some time between flowering for sure next run.
 
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