MG Cannas personal grow

Hmmmmmm. Not so fast..... Wait until the end. There is a long time till then and so many things can happen. Im praying they pull through all pretty but that was never enough in the past! The next 7 weeks will be long and hot. As long as the heat doesn't get out of control, I'll be alright. If it kicks up, I will most likely alternate lights during the on cycle......1000 on, 1200 off, and vice versa.


Humidity is up from 30% to 40%. Heat is right around 70 degrees, day and night. Still watering 2lt per plant, every night. Every 5th watering I give a 1/2 dose of silica to the plants. Every third watering I give a dose of Black Strap. Black Strap is acidic so adjust PH accordingly. The stems are 100% green, showing no deficiencies. I usually don't see anything until week 5, but hopefully this super soil mix can get me through. If not, I will have to top dress to finish up......which works great. It's just a hassle.

More pics if a few....

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Moved the lights up today. I gave myself another few inches so I wont have to chop any more buds that get too close. The plants were watered with 2 liters, no additives. I can tell the plants are feeding off the super soil now because the tips of the leaves area little fried.....like 2 millimeters......very little, but enough to tell me not to feed for the next week at least. The Sour OG and Larry OG are just beautiful thin stemmed sativa plants, and super crystallized buds and leaves. They dont have any more resin than the others, but they are killer looking. The Larry has very few leaves. I have grown DNA's Lemon Skunk and it looks exactly like the buds on that plant, so far at 3.5 weeks. The LCKs have a good amount of leaf, but not a lot by any means and the amount of bud piling on these plants is epic!!!. The PPD smells like the sweetest blueberry but has very little bud on it.....mainly because it isn't directly under a light. I have 2200W and no room. The Armageddons are forming long, dense, hairy, skunk buds. The yield looks good but no more than the LCK.

Do you guys no any dry organic fertilizer mixes? I'm trying to find a good base budding fertilizer for tea and I want it to be simple because the plants don't require too much. When the super soil runs out in 5 weeks, they will have a hard time if I don't feed them and I promised myself NO CHEMICAL NUTRIENTS after week three!!! What do you guys think about "Down To Earth" Nutrients? I know they sell it at at Way to Grow and I use a few of the additives like crushed oyster shells and guano. Are there any other brands out there that are worth looking at??

I use dte additives...plants love them as far as I can tell...at way to grow they have the dte catalog that has all their products in it so If they don't carry it in the store hey can order it...I'm thinking about ordering some pro mix for my next super soil batch, roots is killing me with the gnats

I supplement with Earth Juice full lineup twice during flower. My pots are around 5 gallon, and the girls always seem to run out of gas if i don't supplement. I use Earth Juice because it's easy and gives good results, and I have a bunch left over from before i switched to supersoil.

farmerEd said:

I use dte additives...plants love them as far as I can tell...at way to grow they have the dte catalog that has all their products in it so If they don't carry it in the store hey can order it...I'm thinking about ordering some pro mix for my next super soil batch, roots is killing me with the gnats

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That sucks. I learned to put sand on top of the Roots soil to stop any chance of those bastards living!! But I agree, maybe making my own soil mix separate from the super soil mix and trying to kick my Roots addiction once and for all is a good idea!! Besides the gnat, Roots is some of the easiest soil to grow in for about 4 weeks and then you need to feed like any other soil. Are the gnats worth it????


Medshed- I didn't think Earth Juice was organic. Fill me in on their products cause I've barely know about them. The only thing I use from them is the Micro nutrients for my tea.

Here you go MG: http://www.hydro-organics.com/home/index.php?categoryID=560

I don't know if they are OMRI certified, but I doubt it. They refer to their mix as "natural-organic". I use the Grow, Bloom, Meta-K, Catalyst, and Microblast. I've used EJ for about 3 years now and have been happy with the growth rates, and the taste is superb. Before I switched to Supersoil, I used Roots soil and fed with the EJ lineup. Now I use Supersoil and supplement with EJ.

Interesting. I've been using Roots for the last three years now. I've used it with the Advanced line-up with amazing yields, but the taste of the bud was a bit chemmy. I have used it with super soil and had mixed results, depending on how much the plant needs to be fed. Now I do a hybrid of chems during veg and super soil for flower and I get the best of both worlds.....Swollen calyxes covered in resin, and clean, super smooth, tasty nugs. I don't know if this affects the resin content or not...I would like to get the same plants tested grown in different nutrients. Would there be a difference of 1 or 2 % THC or CBD???

Week 4. I have no order to the plants but there is Lemon Chem Kush, Sour OG, Larry OG, Sour Cream, Blue Dream, and Arm Skunk. I seeded a bud on each LCK from a stanky ass male LCK. I also seeded a bud on the Sour OG, Sour Cream, Larry OG, and Blue Dream from a PPD male. These projects take longer than I thought, but I know it's worth the effort.

the internode layout is incredible. do you do any special pruning to get those plants to stack like that. good luck with the finish

Lookin' great MG!

Thanks Med!!

711grower said:

the internode layout is incredible. do you do any special pruning to get those plants to stack like that. good luck with the finish

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One thing I try to do is breed plants to make the inter-nodes the right length apart. Too close and the plant only gets light to the outer 6 inches or so. Too far away and you need a 20 foot room to grow out your plant. For instance, the Sour OG is a stretch sativa but the Blue Dream is a thick stemmed sativa dom. that can pack on the weight. Both are A+++ meds. Bringing them together created a beautiful plant that grows just like the Blue Dream but has the added sour note to the flavor profile. Buds are big, have very little leaf to trim, super shiny from the resin, and bursting with sweet blueberries and sour grapefruit! Freaking delicious buds with a high to match, and a dream to grow. The only downfall is the budding at 10 - 12 weeks. If you like sativas, the payoff is more than worth it.

Pics 1, 2, 9, 10, and 11 are Lemon Chem Kush. (Aurora Indica x Deadhead OG), (NL#5 x Afghan landrace) x (Chemdog 91 x SFV OG Kush F4) The AI is a true F1 hybrid and the DHOG is a pretty stable Headband cross. This cross was all about keeping the huge colas from the AI but changing the flavor to a sweet and piney chemdoggish flavor. The internode spacing is like the internode spacing is on the AI but the plant stretches like the DHOG in bud. I don't know how fat the buds will be because I used a male DHOG for the cross. All I know is how the male grew and it was a bushy little bastard.

Pics 3 and 4 are the Larry OG. This is so stretchy in veg, you have to SC or SCROG it....otherwise your yield will suck. The buds are frosty and filling in super fast. I dusted a bud on this with my PPD(Blue Dream x Sour OG) x Deadhead OG) and will work this pheno I have the perfect mix of Larry and Headband buds on the Blue Dream frame.

Pic 5 and 7 are Armageddon Skunk.

The rest are general pics of the garden..



Pic 13 is the PPD. This was dusted with a male PPD.

Wow, everything looks awesome. I agree with 711grower, those internodal spacing are dreamy

ColdArmySoldier --

I'm not done with this by any means so improvements will be out soon and I will need people to test those out. PM and I'll put you on the list. My Blue Dream and her crosses I have grown so far also have great spacing. I try and choose strains that have great qualities....not just the look, smell, taste, and high. I want plant growth pattern and structure , bud structure, ratio of resin to plant material, inter-node spacing, solid or hollow stems, leaf to calyx ratio, is the plant leafy in general, does it stop growing at 3 feet or will it grow forever as long as it's in veg cycle, does the plant respond well to topping, super cropping, SCROG, SOG, does it like to be fed or does it fry with the slightest bit of nutrients, does it clone well, bug and mold resistance........there are so many things I look for in a plant to breed with.

I think finding mothers to breed are very difficult. Being super picky and only accepting the best of the best, in my mind, is the least a breeder must do. We all have can agree that we all have different taste in buds. There are truly so many crosses that I would love to do but don't have the time or space. I think the breeders in CO who don't have or work for a Company need to sit down and discuss what our intentions are. Do we want to work together to get something going in a year or two on Attitude or is this a hobby and we are all happy with trading our genetics amongst ourselves??? I think with a few breeders, a Seed Co. can really capture the tastes of a large majority of patients. I hear so many good things on the boards other than the well known breeders.....I hear good things about most of them too. But I believe there are a handful of us who, if we work together, could easily set up a business and compete with the best breeders out there. This year at the Denver Cannabis Cup, we all need to put our best buds up for the challenge.

I agree with it being necessary to breed for other characteristics other than taste, smell, high, etc., and it certainly makes it more challenging. It seems like with so many strains I try there is always a trade-off and one trait is undesirable, such as mold/bug resistance or internodal spacing. What I think would be awesome is to have a collective project of patients and breeders create an amazing strain as you suggest. However, instead of forming a company and getting lost in the bureaucratic mess of making a MMC and such to be legal, we are a collective of patients/growers/friends that are passionate about creating the best genetics possible. I feel like so many Cannabis competitions are about advertising and who is spending the money to get their name out there, not about who truly has the best genetics. With a large collective and large sample size of plants (even if it is just one or two a person), I would be confident that we could capture that taste/quality that you are describing. There is a lot of growing and breeding talent in here. We could share the results of our projects on here or on our private forum. Just an idea. Sounds like fun to me.

Let's do it. If at least, we have fun doing it, than it will be worth the trouble. I love breeding, obviously. So it's no trouble for me. I know all about the "bureaucratic mess of making a MMC ". That is why I grow and breed for one here in Springs.....not own one as I did a few years back. But it's all for business.....it loses it's luster when its a job. I would much rather be a collective with incredible seeds, but they can't be bought anywhere. Our advertising will be our medicine. I have always believed let your product speak for itself. If you have to hype it up, it can't be that good. I really want to strive for the best....but it will never be obtained because there is always something better or new. That's a good thing because we will never stop creating. I say we get together with a few serious breeders who are interested and driven, we sit down together and work through our ideas and vision for this project.

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Nothing new. Just watering every day, from 2 - 4 liters. Plants are completely healthy with completely green stems, showing no deficiencies. Plants left in the garden are Lemon Chem Kush, Armageddon Skunk, Sour OG, Larry OG, Blue Dream, and Sour Cream. LCK was S1'd, the PPD back crossed the Blue Dream and Sour OG, and I hit the Larry OG and Sour Cream with the PPD as well. I'm dieing to grow out the PPD BX2, BD pheno. Next time around, I might grow out a Blue Dream x Deadhead OG female to cross to the PPD BX2, instead of Blue Dream. This way I am doubling down on the DHOG and BD at the same time. I'm sure I'll hit both and include a handful more strains next time.
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Looking like they're gonna be some nice colas there!

Heads up everyone!! Killerobsession just signed up and is asking me to sell him buds. Have any of you had a PM from him?? If you ask me, it's a mighty sketchy thing to do, or he's a pig..

it would take a serious moron to ask someone to do that. not even pigs are that stupid.