MidWeekSong.... retracted review and poor germination rate...

ThaMagnificent said:

All of my Kookies were duds

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Moxie?
Thats not good. MidWeekDong did you buy them from them?
Hopefully I can work this out as this germ rate is unacceptable.
All of them nothing, duds.. no clue why as its not my setup it the seeds.
Hopefully midweek can own the issue send me a reship of my order so I can grow them out and change my negatives to a postive.
Getting duds has happened before but never a whole order ever.

Trippyness said:

Moxie?
Thats not good. MidWeekDong did you buy them from them?
Hopefully I can work this out as this germ rate is unacceptable.
All of them nothing, duds.. no clue why as its not my setup it the seeds.
Hopefully midweek can own the issue send me a reship of my order so I can grow them out and change my negatives to a postive.
Getting duds has happened before but never a whole order ever.

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yup moxie

ThaMagnificent said:

yup moxie

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Thats shit, I was hoping to pop these Golden Cobra ( Grape Kush x Tangie) but nothing popped.. all duds.
A whole order of duds is unacceptable.
Hopefull MidWeek can fix this so I dont have to buy more seeds. Would be in there best intrest as well.
The Golden Cobra looked the most promising on germ, looked liek they were going to grow then didnt.. pretty pissed to be honest and now im set back a while waiting to resolve this and get more seeds.

My germiraon me well, all right, and if I am satisfied .... Trippyness next time use a few drops of hydrogen peroxide to germinate
Sorry for my bad Inglés

supermigu said:

My germiraon me well, all right, and if I am satisfied .... Trippyness next time use a few drops of hydrogen peroxide to germinate
Sorry for my bad Inglés

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Never had any issues with my germ rates or setup. I poped seeds a week before Mid Weeks seeds no issues.
My issue is not my setup its the seeds. However, ill look into hydrogen peroxide and see oif it fits into my setup at some point I may test this. Right now I just want to resolve this issue and get a reship.

Yodaweed said:

Sounds like your germinations methods are bad. Bet you fried them with that heating mat.

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@Trippyness

I have to say that I suspect the same thing! Another point is that 2 of the best seed breeders I know.....Will not honor anymore claims of "didn't pop or run if it did" - meaning they no longer will replace seeds that were done on a heat mat without a towel between the container and the mat OR if you pre-soak at ALL! Too easy to say you did! They warn you up front ON their sites and one even sends a notice of it and why with all deliveries

The beans get too hot from the mat and that converts starch's to higher sugar forms that even if they do pop. Somtimes they don't have enough "usable" seed supplied nutrition to get over the hump and form a "working" root able to feed the plant.
OR
In presoaking, the use of distilled water or any water low in dissolved oxygen can/will drown the seeds!

I know lots of folks do the pre-soak.....I don't for Cannabis seeds.......Now beet seeds, that's a whole different thing AND I add H2o2 to the soak water.....at every 12 hrs of soak time...

Dr. Who said:

@Trippyness

I have to say that I suspect the same thing! Another point is that 2 of the best seed breeders I know.....Will not honor anymore claims of "didn't pop or run if it did" - meaning they no longer will replace seeds that were done on a heat mat without a towel between the container and the mat OR if you pre-soak at ALL! Too easy to say you did! They warn you up front ON their sites and one even sends a notice of it and whay with all deliveries

The beans get too hot from the mat and that converts starch's to higher sugar forms that even if they do pop. Somtimes they don't have enough "usable" seed supplied nutrition to get over the hump and form a "working" root able to feed the plant.
OR
In presoaking, the use of distilled water or any water low in dissolved oxygen can/will drown the seeds!

I know lots of folks do the pre-soak.....I don't for Cannabis seeds.......Now beet seeds, that's a whole different thing AND I add H2o2 to the soak water.....at every 12 hrs of soak time...

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Like I said above, my GERMINATION METHODS work fine.
I have been germing this way for a very long time.
I sprouted seeds two weeks ago same method.
My germination method is fine, quit questioning it. Thats not the problem.
The seeds are the issue.
I have used many seedbanks and poped many seeds with this method.
My temp is correct the RH is correct and my seeds always sprout in a few days. There are duds and were on arrival.
So again my germination is fine.
the seeds were obviously the issue like I said before. I will not say it again.

Dr. Who said:

@Trippyness

I have to say that I suspect the same thing! Another point is that 2 of the best seed breeders I know.....Will not honor anymore claims of "didn't pop or run if it did" - meaning they no longer will replace seeds that were done on a heat mat without a towel between the container and the mat OR if you pre-soak at ALL! Too easy to say you did! They warn you up front ON their sites and one even sends a notice of it and why with all deliveries

The beans get too hot from the mat and that converts starch's to higher sugar forms that even if they do pop. Somtimes they don't have enough "usable" seed supplied nutrition to get over the hump and form a "working" root able to feed the plant.
OR
In presoaking, the use of distilled water or any water low in dissolved oxygen can/will drown the seeds!

I know lots of folks do the pre-soak.....I don't for Cannabis seeds.......Now beet seeds, that's a whole different thing AND I add H2o2 to the soak water.....at every 12 hrs of soak time...

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Again I DONT KEEP THEM ON THE MAT. that would fry the shit out of them the mat is in the area to heep the ambient warm enough to not freeze the seeds. I live in a cold climate.
I am not new to growing or germing seeds.
Again the issue is the seeds not my method. Im well aware of the botany behind germination.

Trippyness said:

Like I said above, my GERMINATION METHODS work fine.
I have been germing this way for a very long time.
I sprouted seeds two weeks ago same method.
My germination method is fine, quit questioning it. Thats not the problem.
The seeds are the issue.
I have used many seedbanks and poped many seeds with this method.
My temp is correct the RH is correct and my seeds always sprout in a few days. There are duds and were on arrival.
So again my germination is fine.
the seeds were obviously the issue like I said before. I will not say it again.

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Trippyness said:

Again I DONT KEEP THEM ON THE MAT. that would fry the shit out of them the mat is in the area to heep the ambient warm enough to not freeze the seeds. I live in a cold climate.
I am not new to growing or germing seeds.
Again the issue is the seeds not my method. Im well aware of the botany behind germination.

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Take it easy Francis !
Many things can change in the water you used to soak in!
I'm just saying that pre-soaking IS now a replacement buster to a growing number of seed providers!
BEST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND!

I have my bean sources and I don't change them!

In defence of the site (RIU). They don't know if a paying advertiser is 100% or not.....Sometimes it's not so much...

As far as your method goes. Do what works for you!

I never said YOU were wrong or were doing it wrong,,,understand that?

As far as the second post you threw at me. Now chill the fuck out spud.

As for Midweek - all you can do is ask eh?

@Trippyness

And good luck too. I mean that, OK?

Trippyness said:

Again I DONT KEEP THEM ON THE MAT. that would fry the shit out of them the mat is in the area to heep the ambient warm enough to not freeze the seeds. I live in a cold climate.
I am not new to growing or germing seeds.
Again the issue is the seeds not my method. Im well aware of the botany behind germination.

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So your heating mat has a thermostat?? if not they got fried for sure.

Yodaweed said:

So your heating mat has a thermostat?? if not they got fried for sure.

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I got a seedling mat that does not go over 90F (so they say). I always put a thick towel over the thing first - a little insulation goes a long way...

Yodaweed said:

So your heating mat has a thermostat?? if not they got fried for sure.

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Yes, its a digital. I should have specified fiurther.
Its not one of those cheap ones you buy that you just plug in to the AC.
I has a digital thermostat to control the temp precisely.
Regardless my germ methods are fine.
I just popped a few Crop King Seeds Blueberry ( 3 days ago) to see if my method was f**** up, They are germing fine already and will be transplanted tomorrow.
So its for sure not my method.
As for @Midweek Song , they still wont contact me. I have sent emails from 2 different emails on different SMPT servers.
They are getting my emails, just not responding.
Another thing to note, there is a thread on another forum talking about the legitimacy of Mid Weeks genetics.
Seems they carry genetics that are SOLD out everywhere else.. Example DJ Shorts Blueberry, SOLD OUT everywhere other than MidWeek. very odd.

Anyways, at this point its confirmed not my germination method and its MidWeeks seeds.
They seem to not want to respond via email at all.
I have already made a new order on Attitude.

So in Conclusion, my germination method works fine.
MidWeek Sent me duds and refuses to even contact me again. I would still like to resolve this ( reship of order) and if the issue gets resolved I will gladly update this thread.

For the time being I am still very pissed off at the customer service of MidWeek and getting a whole order of duds which again was confirmed by germinating seeds from another source.

If MidWeek wishes to resolve this please contact me via email or here on RIU.

For now I label them as a BAD SEEDBANK that I will not deal with again.

Trippy

Mid week song has great selection and quality seed, and fast discreet shipping, but I recently received a purple bud freebie that was cracked and it did not germinate... All the rest did though I am very happy with them and I crossed some auto strains so now I can have my own potent dank ass trichy strain! Thanks so much MWS I will be doing business with you again!

☢Smokey♛Dragon♨❀ said:

Mid week song has great selection and quality seed, and fast discreet shipping, but I recently received a purple bud freebie that was cracked and it did not germinate... All the rest did though I am very happy with them and I crossed some auto strains so now I can have my own potent dank ass trichy strain! Thanks so much MWS I will be doing business with you again!

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Good to know, this must have been a fluke as all mine were duds.
I germed a few I had from Crop King to see if maybe something was wrong with my germ enviornment. Nope, the seeds germed fine and are now about to be transplanted into 1 gallon coco.
My problem lies with MWS refusing to reply to my emails in regards to this issue.
I have already made an order on Attitude which I have never had issues with.
Its just sad to see them not supporting clients after a bad sale.

Bottom line is, none of this has to do with Midweek Song. If anything, maybe the breeders, but since there are at least 4 breeders involved in your shipment, Occam's Razor says it's probably something you did wrong, possibly even without realizing it. But 13 seeds don't just not pop. And I haven't had a problem with ANY of my 5 or 6 orders from MWS. All germinate fine.

I'm not trying to be a dick or piss you off, bro, but you're looking to blame the wrong person.

They do support their clients. They actually have some of the best customer service I've ever experienced and are incredibly punctual with their delivery across the pond. Stop throwing a fit and hear what we're saying: Whatever happened, it was something you did. MWS is just the bank, man, not even the breeder, and you are having issues with MULTIPLE breeders' gear.

Olive Drab Green said:

Bottom line is, none of this has to do with Midweek Song. If anything, maybe the breeders, but since there are at least 4 breeders involved in your shipment, Occam's Razor says it's probably something you did wrong, possibly even without realizing it. But 13 seeds don't just not pop. And I haven't had a problem with ANY of my 5 or 6 orders from MWS. All germinate fine.

I'm not trying to be a dick or piss you off, bro, but you're looking to blame the wrong person.

They do support their clients. They actually have some of the best customer service I've ever experienced and are incredibly punctual with their delivery across the pond. Stop throwing a fit and hear what we're saying: Whatever happened, it was something you did. MWS is just the bank, man, not even the breeder, and you are having issues with MULTIPLE breeders' gear.

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Like I said yes this does have to do with them.
They sold me the seeds.
Its there responsibility as a company to provie a good product which they did not.
I am not saying they are a shit company what i am saying is that somehow I got all duds.
They a avoiding me like the plague.
This is not my first rodeo mate.
Regardless of what happened I deserve a reshipment of my order.
Seeds are not cheap.
If I was a newbie and fucked up that would make sense, however I am not. Its the seeds and I deserve a new batch.
I have had duds before from Crop King, they sent me a few new seeds right away.
This however is complete bullshit on MWS part for avoiding me.

This is ruining a good customer relationship as I buy alot of beans.
Regardless I made an order from Attitude like usuial and im sure the beans will germ fine.

Trippyness said:

Like I said yes this does have to do with them.
They sold me the seeds.
Its there responsibility as a company to provie a good product which they did not.
I am not saying they are a shit company what i am saying is that somehow I got all duds.
They a avoiding me like the plague.
This is not my first rodeo mate.
Regardless of what happened I deserve a reshipment of my order.
Seeds are not cheap.
If I was a newbie and fucked up that would make sense, however I am not. Its the seeds and I deserve a new batch.
I have had duds before from Crop King, they sent me a few new seeds right away.
This however is complete bullshit on MWS part for avoiding me.

This is ruining a good customer relationship as I buy alot of beans.
Regardless I made an order from Attitude like usuial and im sure the beans will germ fine.

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They aren't avoiding you. Lewis contacted you on the first of the month. This has nothing to do with MWS. We are all telling you that.

No way 13 seeds from 4 breeders failed and it was anyone's fault but the grower's.

Trippyness said:

Thats shit, I was hoping to pop these Golden Cobra ( Grape Kush x Tangie) but nothing popped.. all duds.
A whole order of duds is unacceptable.
Hopefull MidWeek can fix this so I dont have to buy more seeds. Would be in there best intrest as well.
The Golden Cobra looked the most promising on germ, looked liek they were going to grow then didnt.. pretty pissed to be honest and now im set back a while waiting to resolve this and get more seeds.

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I bought some moxie crap from MWS as well, Goji Glue and Diamond Cookies, biggest waste of money ever. Stay away from Moxie as it's a "side project" by a well known scammer asshole (cali connection/swerve). The seeds were just like yours, most of them didn't crack even with slight scuffing, and if they did they didn't grow past small tap root.

Psyphish said:

I bought some moxie crap from MWS as well, Goji Glue and Diamond Cookies, biggest waste of money ever. Stay away from Moxie as it's a "side project" by a well known scammer asshole.

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Which well-known scammer asshole, out of curiosity? I'm out of the loop.