mollasses,super thrive and microbes

Chunky Stool

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Superthrive won't kill your microbes it's just kind of redundant if you're growing organic because you should be using kelp and alfalfa meal in your mix anyways and that's all superthrive is just in a bottle and not as beneficial. Plus way more expensive.
How do you figure? I use all of the above...
 

Resinhound

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Wrong.

The active ingredient in superthrive is
1-Naphthyl acetic acid it's a synthetic auxin that promotes aggressive rooting,and it's also toxic to plants in high concentrations..

1-Naphthyl acetic acid does not occur naturally anywhere in nature kelp,alfalfa or otherwise.

There is no dispute that it works,the problem is it can seriously fuck your plant up if it's overused or if it's used at too high of a concentration.
 

sbhippie

Well-Known Member
Wrong.

The active ingredient in superthrive is
1-Naphthyl acetic acid it's a synthetic auxin that promotes aggressive rooting,and it's also toxic to plants in high concentrations..

1-Naphthyl acetic acid does not occur naturally anywhere in nature kelp,alfalfa or otherwise.

There is no dispute that it works,the problem is it can seriously fuck your plant up if it's overused or if it's used at too high of a concentration.
Soo ur saying it be OK to use an walnt fuck with the microbes?
 

Resinhound

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Soo ur saying it be OK to use an walnt fuck with the microbes?
Nah bro what I'm saying is...

You shouldn't really be worrying about microbes when you don't even have roots...

Ya 1-Naphthyl acetic acid works,it promotes rooting after transplant and on young seedlings...in very fucking small dosages and shouldn't really be used outside of that.
 

Resinhound

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Wen I transplant il have roots an I use oregonism XL for wen I transplant
Honestly bro if your microbes are so damn good then why are you even worried about using synthetic auxins at all?Do you think the microbes you have in your pot to start with are the same ones you have in there at harvest?Do you name your microbes Bob,steve and harry?These things die by the millions on the daily bro...a few drops of superthrive isn't going to turn your pot into a barren wasteland...seriously bro they are microbes...just brew another tea and pour em back in by the billions.Damn dude...lol.
 

Rasta Roy

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How do you figure? I use all of the above...
Why with my figuring stick!!! Lol nah, my eyes and my trusty notebook of notes. I've been privileged enough to work in multiple rooms, and experiment with a wide range of fertilization practices (sometimes by choice, sometimes because you just have to do what someone wants when you're working their room. As painful as it can be sometimes).

You will not miss the superthrive if you drop it from your program. Not even for a second. It is redundant, if it makes you feel better to use it you can. But you're adding synthetic chemicals for no reason. Its not making a difference in your grow. Just in your wallet at around 30 bucks a pint.

While I will encourage everyone to still use mycorrhizae (I used it in my last personal round), I stopped using it in all the other rooms I work in about eight months ago and haven't missed it one bit. But I am working with some killer local compost.
 

Chunky Stool

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Wen I transplant il have roots an I use oregonism XL for wen I transplant
OregonIsmXL is an excellent product! I use it when transplanting & also as a starter for compost tea. Unfortunately, none of the local grow stores sell it anymore. Not sure why. It was pricey, but a 1 lb bag lasts a year.
 

Rasta Roy

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OregonIsmXL is an excellent product! I use it when transplanting & also as a starter for compost tea. Unfortunately, none of the local grow stores sell it anymore. Not sure why. It was pricey, but a 1 lb bag lasts a year.
Bro you kill off your mycorrhizae when you put them in your compost tea....you can add post brew. But not as a starter...
 

Rasta Roy

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1 - Mycorrhizal fungi will not increase in number when added to compost tea. More than likely, they won't even survive the brewing of your compost tea. Why? Because they work in a symbiotic relationship with plant roots...no root contact = unhappy fungi. So if you're going to add them to your compost tea, do it immediately after brewing and right before applying your tea to the plant roots (ideal), or as a soil drench (not ideal). If you do make a soil drench, please do it away from direct sunlight (early morning or early evening).
 

Chunky Stool

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1 - Mycorrhizal fungi will not increase in number when added to compost tea. More than likely, they won't even survive the brewing of your compost tea. Why? Because they work in a symbiotic relationship with plant roots...no root contact = unhappy fungi. So if you're going to add them to your compost tea, do it immediately after brewing and right before applying your tea to the plant roots (ideal), or as a soil drench (not ideal). If you do make a soil drench, please do it away from direct sunlight (early morning or early evening).
Thanks for the info!
 

greasemonkeymann

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1 - Mycorrhizal fungi will not increase in number when added to compost tea. More than likely, they won't even survive the brewing of your compost tea. Why? Because they work in a symbiotic relationship with plant roots...no root contact = unhappy fungi. So if you're going to add them to your compost tea, do it immediately after brewing and right before applying your tea to the plant roots (ideal), or as a soil drench (not ideal). If you do make a soil drench, please do it away from direct sunlight (early morning or early evening).
yes sir.
foodstock for those big-ass hungry trochoderma
 

THE-GREEN-HULK

New Member
Question for all you pro's or veteran's, since the title includes microbes ? I can't grow medical herbs but most products are targeted for growers. We are just trying to grow regular herbs and help our garden out the most. Been looking at Recharge, Root Assist Endo Mycorrhizae Soluble Powder and their Microbe Complete. The Recharge and Root Assist looks like the exact same product from 2 different companies. B-war packs looks like repackaged Dr. Rajan Laboratories care packs. Will I be wasting money on any of these items to get a productive harvest from our garden? Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, Newbie here.
 

Rasta Roy

Well-Known Member
Question for all you pro's or veteran's, since the title includes microbes ? I can't grow medical herbs but most products are targeted for growers. We are just trying to grow regular herbs and help our garden out the most. Been looking at Recharge, Root Assist Endo Mycorrhizae Soluble Powder and their Microbe Complete. The Recharge and Root Assist looks like the exact same product from 2 different companies. B-war packs looks like repackaged Dr. Rajan Laboratories care packs. Will I be wasting money on any of these items to get a productive harvest from our garden? Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, Newbie here.
I'm not familiar with the products you're talking about so I don't have a direct answer unfortunately lol. I can tell you that a lot of growers when first growing organic are taken advantage of when it comes to buying products for their garden. There's a lot of redundancy. A well established soil will already have a lot of the things that they try to sell to organic gardeners. The questions I always ask myself when trying to set a garden up for success are always:

1. What am I working with to begin with?
2. What are my goals with this garden?
3. What is it missing that will prevent me from my goals?
4. What do I already have on hand to remedy what I'm missing?
 
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