Morel hunting & scouting for outdoor places to grow.

Sassafras¥

Sassafras¥

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cannabineer said:
Here are some beauts.

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I just checked and the USA east of the Big Muddy is elm country ... grew up in MD where Dad took me mushroom hunting as a pup. never found morels. But chanterelles? Oh yes. My abso favorite mushroom (not counting yeast, my Spirit Animal) ... but I have not tasted a morel.
Chanterelles, boletes and the odd weird one ended up in the home bag. I quickly learned to recognize Amanita virosa (the Destroying Angel) and the various showy but emetic Russula species. I looked always for a Stropharia/Psilocybe and never saw a one.

A former boss was a mushroom hunter (old Swiss guy) and he told me that morels and truffles can be cultured, but nobody has managed to culture Cantharellus. Shame; they are glorious slow-cooked in butter.
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Yeah the Chanterelle are very good aswell. I cook the Morels the same exact way. Hs to be real butter though, mainly because the water content of margarine is to much which will result in a soggy mushroom... yuck.. (:

A few years ago there was a family they went mushroom hunting and the little girl picked one of the Amanitavirosa (the Destroying Angel) you mentioned... didn't end up good. She took 1 bite, 3 days later ended up in the CCU. Doctors couldn't save her. Said it totally destroyed her liver. So sad.
 
iHearAll

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Olive Drab Green said:
Can you make spore prints with those? I don't really understand the difference between morels, truffles, and mushrooms besides taxonomy.
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You'll probably want to make an LC and transfer to a few agar dishes. I have a morel syringe at home but I don't remember if it is a spore syringe or LC. It's urine yellow.
 
Sassafras¥

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iHearAll said:
I used to for a few years, bud quality was much better too.
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How often would you feed yours? Would you try to keep the ph in or around the same ph as rain water or just not worry about it? I always have found it easier just to add my nutes to rainwater, then adjust with ph down if need be. I try to keep my ph between 6.0 and 6.5.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Sassafras¥ said:
Yeah the Chanterelle are very good aswell. I cook the Morels the same exact way. Hs to be real butter though, mainly because the water content of margarine is to much which will result in a soggy mushroom... yuck.. (:

A few years ago there was a family they went mushroom hunting and the little girl picked one of the Amanitavirosa (the Destroying Angel) you mentioned... didn't end up good. She took 1 bite, 3 days later ended up in the CCU. Doctors couldn't save her. Said it totally destroyed her liver. So sad.
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I use real, unsalted butter. I am having trouble remembering just how those chanterelles tasted. I was 12 and my dad found a fuckton of the yellow gems in Austria (about 100km west of Vienna), and i remember the smell and flavor of those wonderful things in Grandmother's kitchen on the Landstrasse. Good (if incomplete) memories ... weird how I have trouble recalling scents and flavors lately (or maybe not so lately?)
 
Olive Drab Green

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cannabineer said:
I use real, unsalted butter. I am having trouble remembering just how those chanterelles tasted. I was 12 and my dad found a fuckton of the yellow gems in Austria (about 100km west of Vienna), and i remember the smell and flavor of those wonderful things in Grandmother's kitchen on the Landstrasse. Good (if incomplete) memories ... weird how I have trouble recalling scents and flavors lately (or maybe not so lately?)
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Got some fresh Amish butter in the fridge.
 
Sassafras¥

Sassafras¥

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cannabineer said:
I use real, unsalted butter. I am having trouble remembering just how those chanterelles tasted. I was 12 and my dad found a fuckton of the yellow gems in Austria (about 100km west of Vienna), and i remember the smell and flavor of those wonderful things in Grandmother's kitchen on the Landstrasse. Good (if incomplete) memories ... weird how I have trouble recalling scents and flavors lately (or maybe not so lately?)
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Damn.. sorry to hear that bro.. unfortunately I'm sure that comes with age. I'm starting to experience it myself. Haven't even broke 50 yet. Lol mid 40s. I'm sure it has to do with all my partying I've done in my younger years. Lol
 
iHearAll

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Olive Drab Green said:
You're going to have to educate me on the purpose and use or agar, but I'll listen.
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Dextrose Agar is a gelatinous nutrient in a petri dish that you clone nycelium from and if you are trying to save a genetic from a contamination without continuously attempting to grain to grain spawn you can simply transfer a healthy section of a dish to another dish and another and another until the growth is contam free. That's a more uncommon use, really its for speeding up the colonization process of jars since you would maintain a mother dish or dishes that do not need germination.

You then can transfer these to a liquid culture to greatly increase your potential colonization speed and number of jars from one syringe.

One syringe would possibly make 10-20 petri dishes and one petri dish can make a few LC jars and one LC jar can make 40 grain spawn jars or brf. Moat people do it, again, to speed up the process and it's just something to do to learn about mycology. In all of its stages since you can have a more perpetual grow to see all stages of growth simultaneously. Sorry for the essay lol
 
Olive Drab Green

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iHearAll said:
Dextrose Agar is a gelatinous nutrient in a petri dish that you clone nycelium from and if you are trying to save a genetic from a contamination without continuously attempting to grain to grain spawn you can simply transfer a healthy section of a dish to another dish and another and another until the growth is contam free. That's a more uncommon use, really its for speeding up the colonization process of jars since you would maintain a mother dish or dishes that do not need germination.

You then can transfer these to a liquid culture to greatly increase your potential colonization speed and number of jars from one syringe.

One syringe would possibly make 10-20 petri dishes and one petri dish can make a few LC jars and one LC jar can make 40 grain spawn jars or brf. Moat people do it, again, to speed up the process and it's just something to do to learn about mycology. In all of its stages since you can have a more perpetual grow to see all stages of growth simultaneously. Sorry for the essay lol
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No, not at all, thank you for the information.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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iHearAll said:
Dextrose Agar is a gelatinous nutrient in a petri dish that you clone nycelium from and if you are trying to save a genetic from a contamination without continuously attempting to grain to grain spawn you can simply transfer a healthy section of a dish to another dish and another and another until the growth is contam free. That's a more uncommon use, really its for speeding up the colonization process of jars since you would maintain a mother dish or dishes that do not need germination.

You then can transfer these to a liquid culture to greatly increase your potential colonization speed and number of jars from one syringe.

One syringe would possibly make 10-20 petri dishes and one petri dish can make a few LC jars and one LC jar can make 40 grain spawn jars or brf. Moat people do it, again, to speed up the process and it's just something to do to learn about mycology. In all of its stages since you can have a more perpetual grow to see all stages of growth simultaneously. Sorry for the essay lol
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Slight correction. Agar is a non-nutrient and generally nonreactive. This makes it super useful to thicken a liquid medium containing actual nutrients in prescribed amounts and ratios ... a universal ingredient of culture media
 
iHearAll

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Sassafras¥ said:
How often would you feed yours? Would you try to keep the ph in or around the same ph as rain water or just not worry about it? I always have found it easier just to add my nutes to rainwater, then adjust with ph down if need be. I try to keep my ph between 6.0 and 6.5.
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Here's what I did. I fermented kitchen scraps for two weeks in bokashi. Then took the pail out on a canoe and found a spot that had good light exposure but was blocked from water view. I buried the contents of the pail and covered with logs to block out dogs and shit. In two more weeks I would come back with plants and planted right in the compost and water with lake water weekly. I topdressed guano and bokashi too. I got spring harvest and fall harvest. Country bumpkin neighborhood growing. When deer found my spot I decided to just start growing in my back yard in beds and then I moved a gotta grow indoors under crappy blurple ..yuk
 
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cannabineer said:
Slight correction. Agar is a non-nutrient and generally nonreactive. This makes it super useful to thicken a liquid medium containing actual nutrients in prescribed amounts and ratios ... a universal ingredient of culture media
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Isn't potato dextrose a nutrient? I lump it together. I have read claims that adjusting "nutrition" of the agar would result in rhizomorphic or tomentose growth. Less dextrose would result in rhizomorphic and more dextrose resulting tomentose. The rhizomorphic was sought after because when transferred and colonized it would be more vigorous in pinning and fruiting.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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iHearAll said:
Isn't potato dextrose a nutrient? I lump it together. I have read claims that adjusting "nutrition" of the agar would result in rhizomorphic or tomentose growth. Less dextrose would result in rhizomorphic and more dextrose resulting tomentose. The rhizomorphic was sought after because when transferred and colonized it would be more vigorous in pinning and fruiting.
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Potato and dextrose are added nutrients to the agar base. When I read about Psilocybe in the early Seventies, PDY agar (potato dextrose yeast) was the go-to myco medium
 
iHearAll

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cannabineer said:
Potato and dextrose are added nutrients to the agar base. When I read about Psilocybe in the early Seventies, PDY agar (potato dextrose yeast) was the go-to myco medium
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Gotcha, we're on the same page. I think I assumed ODB was referring to agar as the entirety "potato dextrose agar" or "seaweed dextrose agar". Yeast nutrient like in brewing? Or more complex?
 
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