Mulcair pledges NDP will decriminalize pot 'the minute we form government'

ricky1lung

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Mulcair pledges NDP will decriminalize pot 'the minute we form government'

NDP Leader Tom Mulcair pledged Thursday to decriminalize marijuana immediately if the NDP forms the next government of Canada.

"I want to make sure that everybody understands that the NDP's position is decriminalization the minute we form government," Mulcair said in response to a question at a campaign event in Vancouver on Thursday.

Asked why the NDP favours decriminalization as opposed to legalization, the policy favoured by the Liberals, Mulcair emphasized his party's longstanding commitment to decriminalization.

"The NDP has had the same position for about 40 years," Mulcair said. "Decriminalizing marijuana is the position of the NDP, it's my position and it's something that we can do immediately."

Hot topic on campaign trail
Marijuana policy has been a hot topic in the months and years leading up to the election campaign, with the Liberals coming out in favour of legalization and the Tories launching ads criticizing such a policy.

During an event Last week to announce new funding to combat drug labs, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper said a majority of Canadians agree with his opposition on legalization.

However, a poll commissioned by the Department of Justice last year found that more than two-thirds of Canadians wanted the federal government to ease the laws regarding possession and use of cannabis.

Harper's comments were technically correct because 37.3 per cent of respondents supported legalization, while another 33.4 per cent supported decriminalization and fines for possession of small amounts of the drug. The survey found 13.7 per cent of Canadians wanted pot laws to remain the same and 12 per cent wanted penalties to increase.

While former Conservative justice minister Peter Mackay said last year the government was considering a more lenient approach on pot, including allowing police to issue tickets to those caught with small amounts of the weed, laws have remained the same.

Medical marijuana laws revised
The Tory government did overhaul the medical marijuana system last year. The previous regulations allowed patients to grow their own pot, designate someone else to do it, or order supplies from Health Canada. The new rules require patients to order from a licensed commercial producer.

Earlier this year, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled against the federal government and expanded the definition of medical marijuana beyond its dried form to include extracts and derivatives such as oils and edibles. Conservative candidate Rona Ambrose, the current health minister, said she was "outraged" by the decision.

Mulcair said it's time for a change.

"Mr. Harper's plan has failed so we've got to start doing things differently. I have been categorical that no person should ever face criminal charges or a criminal record for personal use of marijuana," Mulcair said.

Asked about whether the NDP would extend amnesty to those convicted under old laws, Mulcair said it would be something his party would "sit down and look at."

 
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Rob Roy

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Any form of legalization or decriminalization or whatever the fuck term some lame ass semi-prohibitionist controlling mother fucker politician wants to use that includes government oversight, fines, limits, etc. is a form of control that has vestiges of slavery.

The Nanny state and its occupants have no right to tell people yesterday we jailed your ass, but tomorrow if you give us money we'll "let" you have a plant or three in your backyard, but we'll still jail you for "too many plants" or having too much weed.

Fuck them. Free the weed. Period.
 

ricky1lung

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Any form of legalization or decriminalization or whatever the fuck term some lame ass semi-prohibitionist controlling mother fucker politician wants to use that includes government oversight, fines, limits, etc. is a form of control that has vestiges of slavery.

The Nanny state and its occupants have no right to tell people yesterday we jailed your ass, but tomorrow if you give us money we'll "let" you have a plant or three in your backyard, but we'll still jail you for "too many plants" or having too much weed.

Fuck them. Free the weed. Period.

I agree with free the weed. At least if its decriminalized you, I or others won't go to jail for it.

It's a start toward something better than we currently have.
 

Rob Roy

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I agree with free the weed. At least if its decriminalized you, I or others won't go to jail for it.

It's a start toward something better than we currently have.
Beating the slaves less severely can be viewed as an improvement. However it is not addressing the root problem, it is managing a symptom.

The root problem is that some people hold power over others thru a coercion based system. Receiving a "privilege" from the people that hold power over others still maintains the idea that our freedom is a granted privilege, rather than an inherent right of every individual.

Smart slaves runaway or piss in the masters coffee and don't think of a reduced beating schedule as the endgame. The endgame isn't to make slavery more palatable, it is to end slavery.
 
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heckler73

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"The NDP has had the same position for about 40 years," Mulcair said. "Decriminalizing marijuana is the position of the NDP, it's my position and it's something that we can do immediately."

The Angry Beard is a flip-flopper. I vividly remember him saying "NO" to legalization/decrim in the past, just after Layton passed on.
Seeing this just upsets me, confirming what I thought about him prior. Still, if he winds up forming a minority gov't, I won't care. It is probably the least offensive outcome, post-Harper.
 

ricky1lung

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"The NDP has had the same position for about 40 years," Mulcair said. "Decriminalizing marijuana is the position of the NDP, it's my position and it's something that we can do immediately."

The Angry Beard is a flip-flopper. I vividly remember him saying "NO" to legalization/decrim in the past, just after Layton passed on.
Seeing this just upsets me, confirming what I thought about him prior. Still, if he winds up forming a minority gov't, I won't care. It is probably the least offensive outcome, post-Harper.

It's a matter of picking the best of the worst.

Harpco just has to go. Plain and simple.
Trudeau is out of his league IMO, easily misled and seems to be more of a follower rather than leader.
May just doesn't have the party to form a gov
 

heckler73

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May just doesn't have the party to form a gov
That also bugs me. I'd like to see the Greens gather more scientists under their umbrella. If they ran more candidates with hard science degrees, they would provide a peculiar niche of perspective which would go a long way in keeping Ottawa in check, already replete with the reek of career politicians and lawyers.

 

ricky1lung

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That also bugs me. I'd like to see the Greens gather more scientists under their umbrella. If they ran more candidates with hard science degrees, they would provide a peculiar niche of perspective which would go a long way in keeping Ottawa in check, already replete with the reek of career politicians and lawyers.


I like May, I wish she had stronger numbers and a louder voice.
When she gets left out of debates she speaks up, but because the party doesn't have enough numbers they don't have the people in the house to regularly make it to the daily msm.

With the cons attack on science and muzzling of scientists I believe that has made Mrs. ? Mays job that much harder by keeping the scientific data from easy access.
 

god1

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Why just weed?

Hold people accountable for their behavior. Allow people to put anything they desire into their bodies. The caveat is that they don't fuck with anybody else's rights, space or property.

Once they've violated another's rights, for whatever the reason, they're done. Get'em the fuck out of here. Use coercive force to maintain accountable behavior, while allowing freedom of choice.

Responsible people will do just fine, the "fuck heads" will be gone.

The real issue is that some won't hold others accountable in fear that they might require that mercy themselves.
 

heckler73

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I like May, I wish she had stronger numbers and a louder voice.
When she gets left out of debates she speaks up, but because the party doesn't have enough numbers they don't have the people in the house to regularly make it to the daily msm.
Yah, that's one of the quirks of the Parliamentary system, unfortunately. But if you paid attention during the Postal system debacle from a while back (I believe Layton was still at the helm for the NDP), May was able to make some sharp criticisms against all of the members during the debate phase of the legislation. Her opportunities to have a voice heard may be few, but she assuredly has a healthy volume when they arrive.

With the cons attack on science and muzzling of scientists I believe that has made Mrs. ? Mays job that much harder by keeping the scientific data from easy access.

I have to question that, in some respects. Paradoxically, the Cons did boost funding for research in some areas, but it came at a cost in others, such as muted statistics in the census, etc. So, I see it more as a shuffling of resources.
However, perhaps the Hon. Marc Garneau has a better view than I:


 

Harrekin

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How come Canada's main political parties are still named after the British parties?

Nothing new come about since colonialism?
 

heckler73

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How come Canada's main political parties are still named after the British parties?

Nothing new come about since colonialism?

Because we still secretly worship Her Majesty and didn't think it would be a good idea to let Irish drunks wave too many shillelagh sticks while tossing potatoes in Parliament. You clearly never heard of the RHINO Party.
 
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