Multi Strain 250w HPS Parabolic mini ScrOG

ic ic, yea maybe you could do the same idea but with like the plastic peanut butter jars

DO3SHA said:

ic ic, yea maybe you could do the same idea but with like the plastic peanut butter jars

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hmm could do, would work well for the whole stealth business... I'll have to see if we even have big enough plastic jars like that lol. UK doesn't do supersize stuff quite as well as the yanks

Any recent pics?

Matchbox said:

Touch wood it all works out!

Do you have a link to your grow (is it the 'joint venture grow' picture in your sig lol?)

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Lol yeah the big flashy banner, that's my recent journal. We're going to make it one long ass grow thread lol.

Sorry to hear about the experiment, better luck next time. Looks great as always MB.

Elliesdaddy said:

Any recent pics?

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Soon, all they're really doing is bushing up so nothing too exciting but yea I'll stick some up on Saturday, hopefully I'll have some rooted clones to boot as well

Doobieus said:

Lol yeah the big flashy banner, that's my recent journal. We're going to make it one long ass grow thread lol.

Sorry to hear about the experiment, better luck next time. Looks great as always MB.

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Lol yeah I had a quick look might have to go a bit more thoroughly into it next time.

Edit: I've just read through my whole journal again, find it kind of hilarious how much I've changed my mind lol.

Big Bud has arrived as well as the AN jungle juice as stated before, thinking of ordering some Advanced Nutrients Overdrive as this would make a pretty decent completion to my Nute lne up... maybe in a few more weeks.

Also worked out a really complicated feed/flush/clean/ph levels/average cost chart lol basically it works on gradual increases in nutrient content and drain the res and run pure water for an hour or 3 then top up with the next step up in the nute cycle every week or so, some 'step ups' are the same for 2-3 weeks but I'll still change out the res and minor flush weekly, this should prevent the build up of salts etc in the plants as this will be perpetual it seems unwise to have mid budding plants drinking just water when they need food the most and should save a full length week or 2 flush. Also invented a foliar feed for my clones from the jungle juice, consists of 2ml micro, 2ml grow, 2ml bloom in a 1 litre spray bottle.

If I chose to get the overdrive my average cost per grow on nutrients works out at £23.50 seeing as the Big Bud will last just over 4 grows, the JJ will last 2 grows and the Overdrive will last 8 grows in my 20 or so litre res.

Finally, I'm going to raid the shed of my old house grab a few bits to build a bigger tray that I can put on a shelf type thing so I can remove the res for cleaning properly.

Does anyone want to buy me this bong? Please I'll post you an ounce lol



It's only £75 XD

Matchbox said:

Soon, all they're really doing is bushing up so nothing too exciting but yea I'll stick some up on Saturday, hopefully I'll have some rooted clones to boot as well



Lol yeah I had a quick look might have to go a bit more thoroughly into it next time.

Edit: I've just read through my whole journal again, find it kind of hilarious how much I've changed my mind lol.

Big Bud has arrived as well as the AN jungle juice as stated before, thinking of ordering some Advanced Nutrients Overdrive as this would make a pretty decent completion to my Nute lne up... maybe in a few more weeks.

Also worked out a really complicated feed/flush/clean/ph levels/average cost chart lol basically it works on gradual increases in nutrient content and drain the res and run pure water for an hour or 3 then top up with the next step up in the nute cycle every week or so, some 'step ups' are the same for 2-3 weeks but I'll still change out the res and minor flush weekly, this should prevent the build up of salts etc in the plants as this will be perpetual it seems unwise to have mid budding plants drinking just water when they need food the most and should save a full length week or 2 flush. Also invented a foliar feed for my clones from the jungle juice, consists of 2ml micro, 2ml grow, 2ml bloom in a 1 litre spray bottle.

If I chose to get the overdrive my average cost per grow on nutrients works out at £23.50 seeing as the Big Bud will last just over 4 grows, the JJ will last 2 grows and the Overdrive will last 8 grows in my 20 or so litre res.

Finally, I'm going to raid the shed of my old house grab a few bits to build a bigger tray that I can put on a shelf type thing so I can remove the res for cleaning properly.

Does anyone want to buy me this bong? Please I'll post you an ounce lol

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It's only £75 XD

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Lol yeah same, but I didn't so much change my mind with some stuff. Some of it was circumstance, but my bean selection kills me lol. So hard to choose!! Next round I know I'll be running CCM, but having a real hard time choosing what to grow with it.

I think Grazz uses a similar nutrient schedule, sounds familiar to his.

That piece is cheap for a reason. 9 times out of 10 it won't look like the pic too, but it does have that old school worked feel to it. Looks like China glass imho, you could get better. One of the smoke shops I worked for used to buy a lot of stuff like that. We'd buy x amount of the same thing and maybe you'd get 2 of the same in a shipment. Local glass, or most of the brands on Aqua lab's site are nice. If it's a temporary piece then by all means, but if it's something you want to last.... invest more.

They will do the job, just be careful because it is low end glass. My two cents if you're going to go cheap, get a normal glass on glass bong with no perc. Then get a cheap perc'd ash catch, with diffused stem. It'll most like be cheaper or around the same price, but you won't have to replace the whole damn thing if that dome perc breaks.

Also if you're going to go with China glass, make sure to rinse your pieces out. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a shipment of glass that had small bits of glass or glass powdery crap inside the pieces.

hmm interesting info thanks! I really didn't realise how much stuff there was about bongs lol, though its 5mm and I think boroscillite glass or something and £75 is well expensive lol that's like $140 I know you can spend a LOT on a good bong but damn.

Hopefully I get a job before the Olympics, trying to get to Amsterdam while they're running, where I live is going to be absolute chaos.. I'll get some nice glass/seeds/weed while I'm out there

Doobieus said:

Lol yeah same, but I didn't so much change my mind with some stuff. Some of it was circumstance, but my bean selection kills me lol. So hard to choose!! Next round I know I'll be running CCM, but having a real hard time choosing what to grow with it.

I think Grazz uses a similar nutrient schedule, sounds familiar to his.

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I suppose most of mine was originally based on not getting money for ages the step up to hydro was inevitable and I'm the kinda guy who doesn't like to wait around once I have an idea I like to just go out and do it, if means allow.

Beans are a hard one I spend a good week going thru attitude, picking out say 15 strains then research them ones, narrow it down, smoke reports, narrow down some more lol I think I'll run a Violator Kush and Berry Bomb next time I buy seeds, want to get a few rounds of the ones I have 1st

I'll try to post up my feed schedule at some point, I just wrote it down on paper so I might just scan it in!

Matchbox said:

hmm interesting info thanks! I really didn't realise how much stuff there was about bongs lol, though its 5mm and I think boroscillite glass or something and £75 is well expensive lol that's like $140 I know you can spend a LOT on a good bong but damn.

Hopefully I get a job before the Olympics, trying to get to Amsterdam while they're running, where I live is going to be absolute chaos.. I'll get some nice glass/seeds/weed while I'm out there

I suppose most of mine was originally based on not getting money for ages the step up to hydro was inevitable and I'm the kinda guy who doesn't like to wait around once I have an idea I like to just go out and do it, if means allow.

Beans are a hard one I spend a good week going thru attitude, picking out say 15 strains then research them ones, narrow it down, smoke reports, narrow down some more lol I think I'll run a Violator Kush and Berry Bomb next time I buy seeds, want to get a few rounds of the ones I have 1st

I'll try to post up my feed schedule at some point, I just wrote it down on paper so I might just scan it in!

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I hear you on the money part MB, lots of times it seems there's just not enough lol.

Yeah there is a lot more to glass than meets the eye. That is actually pretty cheap for a GonG bong. One of my bongs cost 300+ easy and that's not including my worked bowl. That was with an employee discount too, but it was a sound investment. I've had it a little over 6 years and it's taken a couple small drops. No fractures, or dings. Honestly though, my bongs as nice as they are.... are usually not used. My inline bubbler is used more frequently. It rips well, so smooooooooth and isn't as bulky.

Beans are sooo rough, I have a decent collection now which makes it so much harder . Next round is going to be super hard to choose, got some nice genetics recently. Garrrr lol.

I suppose once I have money I'll be willing to drop more on a bong, but so long as what I get looks good and is at least 5mm glass with the usual heat treated business I'll be happy, preferably want something with ice notches and a perc, gonna get a decent diffuser down stem and a nice looking bowl too, maybe a bit larger than the standard... 'cause I love my bong hits and anything will be better than my piece of crap plastic one :/

Well touch wood I can get out to 'Dam and see what they have! I'll check out the aqua labs stuff too, I did a while ago and they were stupid expensive

Finished building my new tray just waiting for it to dry and what not, but I can't do anything else today 'cause its all rainy and shit :/

Also can fit another 2 pots in, just in case my strains go 10 weeks.

Matchbox said:

Does anyone want to buy me this bong? Please I'll post you an ounce lol

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It's only £75 XD

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That thing is sick....

Matchbox said:

I suppose once I have money I'll be willing to drop more on a bong, but so long as what I get looks good and is at least 5mm glass with the usual heat treated business I'll be happy, preferably want something with ice notches and a perc, gonna get a decent diffuser down stem and a nice looking bowl too, maybe a bit larger than the standard... 'cause I love my bong hits and anything will be better than my piece of crap plastic one :/

Well touch wood I can get out to 'Dam and see what they have! I'll check out the aqua labs stuff too, I did a while ago and they were stupid expensive

Finished building my new tray just waiting for it to dry and what not, but I can't do anything else today 'cause its all rainy and shit :/

Also can fit another 2 pots in, just in case my strains go 10 weeks.

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Syn, Zob, Manifest and PHX should have something around that price range, nothing with worked/colored glass or fumed work but still great glass. Whatever works for you MB just always trying to help.

You ever seen a Halo perc? Those things are sick.

Damn rain, well hopefully better weather soon.

Thanks again! I'll look them up at the moment I'm just looking for a nice cheap'ish bong that'll last me then I can splash out one day on something stupid XD Thinking about getting some nice wood and working one up on the lathe and carving 'cause I love all that business

put the tray in today and it didn't fit so I had to reduce it by a cm or so now it fits, it's waterproofed now and just waiting on it to dry so I can finally get it installed soon! We're due for a whole next week of crap weather.

Might also look up a halo perc

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Sorry for the lack of updates, I'm just waiting on the clones to root and then I'll post some pics. The Sour Candy mum has exploded since I've transplanted (smaller pot ironically) and administered training, she's loving it.

I also potted up the Amnesia Lemon from a 1.5 litre to 2 litre hempy pot and she's taking a bit longer to recover but she's still going I just have to leave her alone for a few days.

Watering regime is water once every 2-3 days every other water comes with a light feed, the Sour Candy seems to love the higher doses but the Amnesia Lemon is slightly more sensitive, feeding them just enough to keep them rigorous and green.

On another note, just got a tax re-bate boooyah! lol might get that bong after all XD

Slight change of plan, I re-read up on the strains I'm running at the moment and they are 9-12 week ones... Which puts a bit of a spanner in my perpetual works as I don't have the space to run 5-6 pairs of clones, unless I do 1 every 2 weeks but the goal is to keep me and my mate in a constant cheap/free supply of weed and 1oz per 2 weeks wont cut that XD.

That said, I did some research on strains and found 2 that say they are 6-7 week strains (so would most likely be 8 week'ers) I had quite strict guidelines for them as I wanted 2 strains with some degree of flavor so I can mix and match and not get bored of one or the other. The criteria for the 1st was it had to be a hybrid with an 'up' high and sweet/citrus tasting (I just love the idea of a proper citrussy taste) while still finishing in a reasonable time, this one was checked by Dinafem's Sweet Deep Grapefruit. The criteria for the 2nd strain was to be a heavy yielding almost straight Indica with a knockout couch lock stone and a some what candy/skunky/bubblegum taste again while still finishing quickly, this was checked by Bomb Seeds Berry Bomb (I've still to get this bitch to work, touch wood 3rd times the charm) So all of those are ordered and arriving shortly to become my new mothers.

As for the White Widow, Amnesia Lemon and Sour Candy, they all went into flower last night, I took out my ebb and flow system for now, this will definitely be used for my Indica mothers as the setup takes a fair bit of height (another reason for changing my mind about mother strains was height constraints).

I'm still waiting on my clones to root (the final reason for flowering everything and changing mums, I need a bumper crop asap : ) they seem to be taking forever. I took 2 more proper clones off of the AL and SC and used some brand new 'organic' rooting gel as the rooting powder I had is a good 5 or more years old, which is possibly contributing to the long rooting times and possibly the failure of the clones, well we'll see in a week or so.

Finally I decided to drop a small amount on a nice straight hitting Ice bong, I felt I'll get a decent reviewed cheap glass bong that will keep me happy until I have a few hundred spare to drop on something more fancy.



This with some gauze's set me back a mere £30 (including delivery) for a 60cm, 4mm thick glass bong (off of EdIT) so I'm happy, plus I can always change the bowl and down stem if I fancy it later Also they're located in the UK which is another plus as I should receive my order before 7pm tomorrow, touch wood!

EDIT: Everything arrived today, it's like fucking Christmas man!!! got my sweet deep grapefruits, my berry bombs and my awesome bong, I mean this thing is a beast... I don't even know how you could break it the glass is so thick, it came with a slit diffuser too so all in all it was a damn good purchase XD

First Few days of Flower - (after 6 week veg)

Right, if you read all my previous edit's then you'll know I've scrapped the perpetual until the next strains are old enough to be mothers simply because these ones take too long and I need a bumper harvest as my clones aren't rooting (there handy summary) XD

Anyway I put these girls in flower the other night and took a clone from each, the old clones died due to old manky rooting powder so just didn't root at all. Got some shiny rooting gel for the new clones but I'm not sure if temps are too much in the LED cab, they're looking a bit droopy, but they're not getting worse, just staying the same droopyness for the past few days.

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And that bong... my god that bong hits like a fothermucker and o'so smooth!

Lol nice about the bong MB, glad it rips. Take it to the head.

Yeah you might have to scrap it now but you're still closer to getting to that plan. Plus it'll give you more time to prepare, that can never hurt.

Do you have a dome on the clones? I ghetto it up, with my dome lol. Just a clear bin, a rubber band, and cling wrap.

Sounds like a really great bong. Good luck with your grow.

Doobieus said:

Lol nice about the bong MB, glad it rips. Take it to the head.

Yeah you might have to scrap it now but you're still closer to getting to that plan. Plus it'll give you more time to prepare, that can never hurt.

Do you have a dome on the clones? I ghetto it up, with my dome lol. Just a clear bin, a rubber band, and cling wrap.

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True, the domes for my clones are a 2 liter bottle cut in half each has it's own half works well but I'd like something better that fits, they look a bit sad in the bottles.

I've also been thinking about RDWC and do 3 plants every 8 weeks by growing bigger plants, taking clones flower the big ones and then the clones have 8 weeks to get big enough to do the same... I think in my space this would yield the most and I have height concerns with the 8 plant perpetual, oh I don't know lol, what to do, what to do!!!

I don't need to buy anything else except net pots and 2 more, large pots for RDWC... Might try the ebb and flow setup first and see how tall the plants get in flower, then decide... Also comes down to a legal issue, in the UK we can have up to 9 plants and possibly not be subject to a prison sentence, only a fine and community service, anything over 9 plants and you risk jail time.

hmm decisions, decisions XD

sleepyindica said:

Sounds like a really great bong. Good luck with your grow.

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Yes it is, smoked a bowl last night and it was a huge bowl... would definitely recommend for the price and I really don't see how you could break it either, thanks for stopping in!

Man, you just totally nicked my grow! even the scrog screen is the exact same shape, same power light. "Might try ebb and grow" , might try and copy me more like

cues said:

Man, you just totally nicked my grow! even the scrog screen is the exact same shape, same power light. "Might try ebb and grow" , might try and copy me more like

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lol yeah that's why it was great when I stumbled on your thread! though I did a similar grow before this one, before you did, muahaha XD

EDIT: Latest news, popped my sweet deep grapefruits and berry bomb. Going away until tomorrow evening, not long lol so clones have been uber misted and all flowering ladies have had a haircut and have been re-arranged to better fit in the cab It's starting to kick off a bit now, growth wise!

I think I've made a decision on what to do about the ebb and flow, I'm going to try it out for a run or 2 see how I get on with it, check flowering heights and all that over the course, but inevitably I want to try undercurrent DWC or Aeroponics, I think once this grow is complete I'll build a mini aero system for my mothers and clones and have 3 UCDWC or RDWC buckets going in the flower room, I thought of a great little system using the small pump I already have, might have to draw it up and put it on here when I get back, see what you all think!

EDIT 2: For those of you still watching check out this thread: https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/522679-aero-undercurrent-dwc-design-thoughts.html#post7335886

I think it's a good Idea and would potentially yield more than my ebb and flow system with less plants let me know your thoughts.

Until next time, Stay Frosty!

Just finished a new hydro system... I've had a few weeks thinking about whether or not to use the Ebb and Flow and as much as I'd like to I don't think it's Ideal for my situation.

For one judging by the stretch of even my most Indica plant I've got flowering at the moment I'm not going to have the height and with the screen there with 8 plants it's going to fill up very quickly and more than likely get way to overcrowded.

For two, my res is only 20l (if that) so the PH is going to fluctuate like a bitch (in any micro hydro system it will anyway) My new system has a combined res of 30l.

Finally, the flood tray blocks out 80% of the airflow through my limited space so testing temps measured a constant 30+ degrees over the 12/12 period (I think I was only measuring temps after an hour before).

Anyway here is the new SWC Waterfall system I've designed and knocked up. It's basically Shallow Water Culture though could easily become DWC with the addition of more water and some airstones/pump but I want to give this a go.

The pump pulls water from the res and in doing so creates a sort of undercurrent in the 3 pots, it then pushes it up to the top of the plants and acts as a dripper without drippers so more like a waterfall, which flows through the medium and back into the res. It's recommended that 12" height is needed for maximum oxygenation with the 'waterfall effect' which I have.

It just needs a few final touches like a 'T' joint and a clear water level indicator tube and it should be up and running, cut some holes for net pots and a drain valve.

enough crap, here's some pics, I'll be running it next grow in 9-10 weeks.

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Sorry if anyone's disappointed I'm not running Ebb & Flow, it'll still be perpetual though, 1 large plant every 3-4 weeks which should (in theory) yield more than the ebb and flow system I was thinking of... The ebb and flow was estimated at 2oz every 2 weeks this I reckon will do 3-5oz every 3-4 weeks (so just over).

EDIT: Just ran the system... had a few leaks at the joints so I just siliconed them up, hopefully when it's dry It'll be fine XD also made a quick mod, screwed some plastic tubing I had left over to the front and back for rigidity as it was flopping all over the place, should be able to take this system in and out of the grow box with ease now, a plus if I need to bag up the plants and put em in the boot of the car for their dark period for when the landlord comes to visit.

Update of the current ladies on Saturday or so

Stay Frosty!