my 8-10k watt kush grow

Yea but the sun isn't affected by the inverse square law, nor is it available 24hours.

whiteflour said:

Yea but the sun isn't affected by the inverse square law, nor is it available 24hours.

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I don't even know what that is lol. I was being a smart ass or anything just saying. BTW I love your avatar lmfao

aaaaaaaaaahahahahaha yes ditto. i love that avatar too fuckin funny you racist!

lights on for shits and gigs. horrible pics i know. the plants don't really look that yellow. right after the lights turned on and a heavy feed so they aren't so perky for these pics, but they lookin good and doing their thing.

man they are growing ultra fast!!!

Just read through this whole thread. Awesome grow bro, I am inspired to say the least. I am just now trying to expand (going from a vented 2kw set up to a 4k sealed co2 setup with plans on adding 4k more in time) So I am definitely taking notes here, thank you for sharing the grow.

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but is it completely necessary for you to profit $75,000 from your patients every couple of months? You could cut your profit margin in half and it would still be well worth your effort and time... I understand that is just the going rate since the "medical boom", but you claim to be "helping" them. Your doing the same thing the "big" pharmaceutical companies have done for years and still do to this day, which we can all agree is wrong.

Pick a patient or two who you feel benefit the most from your services and give it to them for dirt cheap if not free. I can guarantee you will never have felt better. Not to mention how your patient(s) will feel. And what will you be losing out on?

Please don't feel that i'm trying to tell you what to do, we live in America and you can truly do whatever you want. I would like it to be that anyone curious about medical marijuana could peek into the world and see that it is filled with caring people who understand what the purpose of medicine is, and that purpose is not to get rich off of people who are sick and/or in chronic pain.

I hope you don't feel I overstepped any boundaries, thank you for providing the best medical marijuana you can to your patients.

--ColaFarmer--

usually the patients do get cheap and/or free meds. the money comes from the co ops and various other venues whom buy the 'overages' at high prices and sell them to patients who are waiting on harvest or who just smoked all their free meds for the month (at astronomical prices $560 oz). so really you cant just assume he doesnt treat his patients fairly because he may be giving them an ounce a day for free and then profiting from the dispensaries.

Just read this whole fucking thread and hamandcheese, you are the fucking God, alla,buddha and whoever of this shit. You've inspired me deeply dammit! Go big or go home! This whole thread was awesome until the end smh stupidity. No ones cares about irrelevant opinions like that. Gosh man, keep the peace.
HamandCheese for president, all in favor say I

I felt I kept the up most respect towards ham and cheez and what he does. I only expressed my opinion, i hope he does give away for free. I have friends that don't and it pisses me off. They just see it as dollar signs and that is wrong. I wasn't automatically assuming he does the same.

Sorry for any confusion, and i did read through the whole thread thank you... It is an epic grow. Peace.

any patient someone sells to for the most part has the ability to grow for themselves, but they dont, they CHOOSE to pay someone else to do the WORK of growing smoke for them. There are different lvls of quality better quality cost more. Lexus uses the same shit toyota uses to make there cars just lexus spends more time and care into the product than toyota, hell they are the same company. Ham isnt some early chopping, non curring, corner skimping commercial dealer. And the prices of his dope should reflect this. I hate when people who have the same ability to do what i do hate on me for doing it and making $. There are lots of patients that grow for themselfs and or family members, people like ham would not exist if there wasnt any money in it they wouldnt have the time they would have to go to work. Not to mention the feds can still lock ham up if they so choose there is still a risk factor here why dont u give all your smoke away and let everyone else do with theres what they feel like?

ColaFarmer said:

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but is it completely necessary for you to profit $75,000 from your patients every couple of months? You could cut your profit margin in half and it would still be well worth your effort and time... I understand that is just the going rate since the "medical boom", but you claim to be "helping" them. Your doing the same thing the "big" pharmaceutical companies have done for years and still do to this day, which we can all agree is wrong.

Pick a patient or two who you feel benefit the most from your services and give it to them for dirt cheap if not free. I can guarantee you will never have felt better. Not to mention how your patient(s) will feel. And what will you be losing out on?

Please don't feel that i'm trying to tell you what to do, we live in America and you can truly do whatever you want. I would like it to be that anyone curious about medical marijuana could peek into the world and see that it is filled with caring people who understand what the purpose of medicine is, and that purpose is not to get rich off of people who are sick and/or in chronic pain.

I hope you don't feel I overstepped any boundaries, thank you for providing the best medical marijuana you can to your patients.

--ColaFarmer--

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i used to give away free weed all the time when i lived in a non-med state. read my old old old posts where i talked about giving away a qp of my harvest(back when i got 4-6 lb harvest). i did that for awhile. nothing has changed. i still give away cheap/free meds to people that ACTUALLY NEED it. i give free stuff to a few senior citezens. one has distrophy. another has arthritis. etc etc. so yeah i do give away a lot of free meds. i make most of my money selling to other people that probably resell it. i don't really know. i don't want to know.

Delux83 said:

any patient someone sells to for the most part has the ability to grow for themselves, but they dont, they CHOOSE to pay someone else to do the WORK of growing smoke for them. There are different lvls of quality better quality cost more. Lexus uses the same shit toyota uses to make there cars just lexus spends more time and care into the product than toyota, hell they are the same company. Ham isnt some early chopping, non curring, corner skimping commercial dealer. And the prices of his dope should reflect this. I hate when people who have the same ability to do what i do hate on me for doing it and making $. There are lots of patients that grow for themselfs and or family members, people like ham would not exist if there wasnt any money in it they wouldnt have the time they would have to go to work. Not to mention the feds can still lock ham up if they so choose there is still a risk factor here why dont u give all your smoke away and let everyone else do with theres what they feel like?

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i agree. there are plenty of people out here that can grow for themselves, but don't/can't. and honestly i get rid of most of my weed that is OG/FIRE for 35-4500. that is a really good price. imho. the people that really screw over the patients and the growers are these shit ass dispensaries trying to buy low and sell high. they are the ones that are really in it for the money.

the reason i started doing this wasn't to get rich. i started growing because i smoked laced pot when i was 16 and it really fucked me up. i said to myself that from then on i would grow my own weed. as time went on, other people smoked my weed, and they loved it. any money i made went towards living expenses and expanding my operations. running an op like this takes alot more time, effort, and money than most people know. this shit is not easy. and it is especially not cheap. not to mention my time. i work a real job 12 hours a day right now. come home and usually put another 3-4 hours in the room sometimes more sometimes less. as for the risk. yeah it's there, but i am within my limits and have less than 99 plants. so i like to think i've limited that. not to mention i am super tight lipped.

thanks delux, colafarmer, express, SCHerb. and anyone else who has read my threads. all opinions are welcome. and i love the convo. it's better than having an empty journal where i just post pics. speaking of which i will have some new ones tomorrow.

I rather you make a huge profit than the real criminals who sell it for pure profit

Great thread

HAM, dont let these jokers put you down in any way. regardless of your prices, you are helping patients get medicine they truly need. many of them probably cant even make it to a dispensary and you provide them with medicine that they sometimes can get access to. you are doing a great thing and i am envious that i can not provide this same service legally in my area.

HamandCheese what was your setup when you were yielding 5-6 lbs a harvest? I'm interested bc that's my of my range for now. do you have a link to it also? Ill be up all night waiting for those pics too man! Well ill be up all night at work but I'm gonna be waiting dammit lol

thanks guys.

my setup when i yielded 6 pounds was in a non med state. 4000 watts flip flop. 2x2000 watt rooms. i would start off my plants under 2x8 bulb t5s. and than veg them in both rooms with 1000 on in each room. during bloom i would spread them out and turn the other 2000 watts on. bare bulbs in a 5 foot high basement. the plants hit the ceiling many times. haha.

pics tomorrow afternoon(tues). sorry. work in the AM.

Keep up the good work Ham...You have all rights to be paid for what you are doing!Nommater if you give it to patient or just smokers,you have to get paid for that!You spent a lot of time and money for that job,so you got the right to sell it!Maybe a little cheaper to patient,but free?No way man!!!You re doing the right thing!I wish i was near there so i can buy it too!!!!

haha damn that sounds good. Did you ever have any problems in your old state? All of this med state talk has me doing some serious thinking...

HAMandCHEEZ4life said:

i used to give away free weed all the time when i lived in a non-med state. read my old old old posts where i talked about giving away a qp of my harvest(back when i got 4-6 lb harvest). i did that for awhile. nothing has changed. i still give away cheap/free meds to people that ACTUALLY NEED it. i give free stuff to a few senior citezens. one has distrophy. another has arthritis. etc etc. so yeah i do give away a lot of free meds. i make most of my money selling to other people that probably resell it. i don't really know. i don't want to know.

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Good to hear you are one of the many decent growers. This may mean nothing to you but, THANK YOU!!! Many people don't know the impact free meds have on patients. People who can or want to pay do and those who can't, shouldn't have to. THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!