My first 3 chamber closet grow with Blueberry

TRICKKY said:

Ok, so now Im slightly less confused

Personally I would get an RVK fan, like the one you have and use it to pull the air from the other rooms.
And keep the fan currently on the cooltube where it is.

As for the nute guide no worries.

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I considered both options & I thought the best thing to do is first purchase the secondry fan & then test out which fan will do a better job at extracting the hot air out of the chambers & extracting the hot air from the cooltube, keeping in mind during the summer even the air outside of the cab can get pretty warm. Mmmm time to experiment.

Quick question: Are the leaves supposed to droop during lights out & perk back up during lights on (yep youve guessed it, that what I noticed last night & today morning)
Night temp & humidity @ 21.5-22C & 30-39%.
Day temp & humidity @ 26-27C & 30-35%.

iloveit said:

Quick question: Are the leaves supposed to droop during lights out & perk back up during lights on (yep youve guessed it, that what I noticed last night & today morning)
Night temp & humidity @ 21.5-22C & 30-39%.
Day temp & humidity @ 26-27C & 30-35%.

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Your right to experiment with the fans to see what suits you best. I got stuck in "what I would do" mode

In my experience the droop is most likely a reaction to the drop in temp. but also the lack of light. If there perking up during lights on then everything is fine.

Also Your night temp. is fine. I often go down to around 18c at night with no undesirable effects.

Oh and another thing,

I month old today!

TRICKKY said:

Your right to experiment with the fans to see what suits you best. I got stuck in "what I would do" mode

In my experience the droop is most likely a reaction to the drop in temp. but also the lack of light. If there perking up during lights on then everything is fine.

Also Your night temp. is fine. I often go down to around 18c at night with no undesirable effects.

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Thats cool no need to display embarrassed emotion. I love how everyone has their own way of growing the lessons never end.
I was wondering its been a while since Ive watered even the moisture meter reads dry but the plant shows its not thirsty strange but I guess no news is good news.

TRICKKY said:

Oh and another thing,

I month old today!

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Hey almost forgot about that YAY! I wonder how long itll be until I can start taking cuttings, I cant wait to begin flowering the clones lick lick.

Another quick question: I dont really have any space to dry buds (Im just planning for the future) so Id like to purchase a dry/bud box any recommendations?

Be careful with the watering, most of the time the plant will show signs of distress as the soil becomes too dry, sometimes however, the plant will still look fine even after the soil has become too dry. I still say lifting the pot and judging by the weight weather or not to water is the best practice.

There are products you can buy specifically for drying, I prefer to dry in a spare wardrobe. I manicure my plants whilst they are still pot bound then cut the base and hang the whole plant upside down from the clothes hanger. I have dried in DIY dry boxes also. Just use a big cardboard box and run cotton back and forth to create lines to hang the buds off. I think forking out more money for a drying box is unnecessary.

TRICKKY said:

Be careful with the watering, most of the time the plant will show signs of distress as the soil becomes too dry, sometimes however, the plant will still look fine even after the soil has become too dry. I still say lifting the pot and judging by the weight weather or not to water is the best practice.

There are products you can buy specifically for drying, I prefer to dry in a spare wardrobe. I manicure my plants whilst they are still pot bound then cut the base and hang the whole plant upside down from the clothes hanger. I have dried in DIY dry boxes also. Just use a big cardboard box and run cotton back and forth to create lines to hang the buds off. I think forking out more money for a drying box is unnecessary.

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Lifting the pot makes perfect sense but Ill double check with the moisture meter.
I think Ill try making a dryer using plastic boxes & a tiny CO2 filter if I can find it but at the moment Im working on modifying the cab to create extra ventilation Ill post pics of the results when complete.

Take a look at this, Somewhere in here he mentions Al B's version but I haven't found his yet.

Looks interesting.



https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/62900-4-day-bud-dryer-40-a.html

TRICKKY said:

Take a look at this, Somewhere in here he mentions Al B's version but I haven't found his yet.

Looks interesting.



https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/62900-4-day-bud-dryer-40-a.html

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Thats much more simple than what Ive seen, so its decided home made dryer it is but with a CO2 filter. Oh & thank you very much for the link.

So Im going to purchase this extractor fan (the 200mm one):
http://www.somhydro.co.uk/product.asp?pid=857

But before I do Id just like to know if I can use any (LIVE,NEUTRAL & EARTH) cable to attach it to my PRIMAIR speed control? I need a meter cable & Im considering purchasing this "IEC Power Cable 2 metre":
http://www.cableuniverse.co.uk/catalog/cables/power-cable-2-metre-white.html

This may be a silly question but Im asking because I dont have any understanding of electrics & I dont want to cause a fire (even though the main power cables around the home is connected to breakers Im still paranoid).

That fan is one fancy bit of kit!

Looking at the rate of air this thing moves it will only have to be on for short periods of time. So...

Just a tip. If your gonna rig this up to the primair, and the primair is monitorong the air in your cab, then this fan will have to be used for extraction only,not the cooltube.

If you put it on your cooltube then it will not be on often enough to "cool the tube". (The tube requires a constant flow of cool air).

But I'm sure you thought of that already.

As for the wire thats fine, but you would be better off going to BnQ and buying electrical wire, a plug and a fuse. As for the safety aspect, what you need to bear in mind, is how many amps your fans will be drawing and get a fuse that reflects this.

I very much doubt that your two fans will draw more than 3 amps so a 5 amp fuse would be fine. Or you could just go for a 13 amp fuse. As long as the fuse is greater than the amps drawn you will be fine.

Oh and do you have this diagram for instalation?

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/details.asp?searchterm=primair&productid=104

Oops!

I sort of guessed that was the fan controller you have. Is it?

TRICKKY said:

That fan is one fancy bit of kit!

Looking at the rate of air this thing moves it will only have to be on for short periods of time. So...

Just a tip. If your gonna rig this up to the primair, and the primair is monitorong the air in your cab, then this fan will have to be used for extraction only,not the cooltube.

If you put it on your cooltube then it will not be on often enough to "cool the tube". (The tube requires a constant flow of cool air).

But I'm sure you thought of that already.

As for the wire thats fine, but you would be better off going to BnQ and buying electrical wire, a plug and a fuse. As for the safety aspect, what you need to bear in mind, is how many amps your fans will be drawing and get a fuse that reflects this.

I very much doubt that your two fans will draw more than 3 amps so a 5 amp fuse would be fine. Or you could just go for a 13 amp fuse. As long as the fuse is greater than the amps drawn you will be fine.

Oh and do you have this diagram for instalation?

http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/details.asp?searchterm=primair&productid=104

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Im going to use the silent fan to extract air out from the unit & the current fan will simply cool the cool tube.
I intend to use the silent fan at half speed most of the time due to noise (the noise is reduced when the speed is reduced, actually Im not sure if I should purchase the 125mm or 200mm because the temp in the unit gets very hot & Im not sure if the 125mm will do the trick).

The good thing about the Primair controller is that you can have it at any speed you like & it will only speed up if the temp increases to that of your set temp on the controller, when the hot air has been extracted & temp decreased to your desired temp it will then switch back to the set speed. Hope thats not confusing LOL.
Yeah I checked different diagrams for the same item 5 times before wiring just so I dont make a stupid mistake, after all the little grey box cost almost 100.

I have currently installed a 13AMP fuse to the plug, it should be ok but sometimes I can hear buzzing & tick tick noises from the transformer which has me paranoid but I have CO2 fire extinguisher hopefully I will never have to use it in the middle of the night.

About the grow: I watered yesterday 2 hours before lights out (PH at 6.1), drooped a little bit Im not sure if its due to watering (the pot was heavier than ever after watering maybe I over did it...again ) or if they had got use to the lights on/off timing, for the past few day it droops an hour before the lights switch off, strange huh!

Anyway Ill post pics of the cab modifications & new growth next week.

HAVE A NICE WEEKEND TRICKKY!!!

iloveit said:

I intend to use the silent fan at half speed most of the time due to noise (the noise is reduced when the speed is reduced, actually Im not sure if I should purchase the 125mm or 200mm because the temp in the unit gets very hot & Im not sure if the 125mm will do the trick).

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The 125mm is more than adequate for cooling your cab. The only reason I would get a 200mm would be so I could run it at a lower speed and create less noise. As your buying acoustic I don't think you will need to do this. If in doubt ask the guy at SomHydro what he recommends.

A little buzzing from the transformer isn't a sign of anything dangerous, the fire extinguisher is a good idea tho.

I look forward to your next post, I haven't seen her for a few days
I might luck up the courage to start my own thread soon

Hope you have a good one too.

Dude, the suspense is killing me!!!

Seriously.....lol......update?

Sorry fellas those bits & pieces are taking a while to arrive.
Ive decided to use a RUCK fan because the acoustic fan weighs 10kg & thats one of the small ones...sigh Ive gone back to the drawing board & realised adding a secondary fan is going to be a tight fit maybe Ill have to mount it on the top which will probably ruin the overall appearance of the unit. But no matter what Im going to make it happen I PROMISE. Ive spent way to much to settle for nothing, hopefully by the end of next week itll be ready in the meantime Im thinking of adding some cfls to the baby which has become an infant, the stem has thickened up new leaves have almost out grown the pot Ill post pics all at once.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS & HAVE A GREAT CHRISTMAS BOYS & GIRLS

ILoveit

*DAY 36*

I think Its going to take a while for the equipment to arrive so Im going to display the progress of the plant:

As you can see the plant really has grown even the stem is turning in to a hard wood & those deformed leaves have turned out ok, but the lower leaves have turned a very pale yellow & are starting to die & the browning at the leave tips is not stopping anly spreading. However I have found one root aticking out the hole at the bottom of the pot Im considering transplanting into a larger pot, remember Im going to use it as a mother plant. The longest single leave I measured today was 13cm but they are all looking droopy, Ive noticed this plant is drinking a hel of a ot of water now maybe Ill name her "TARA" as in "Tara Reid" (you know the celebrity who is known for drinking too much...she starred in "American Pie" you know).
Tomorrow Im going to add some Ionic (Growth Technology) nutes with Hygrozyme (which dissolves the nutes so the plant can take in the nutes easily). Im not sure how much to add maybe 1/2 dosage of "Ionic Grow"?
Actually what is a really good nute to feed in soil or as a mist spray to speed up foliage growth so that I can take cuttings regularly?

Anyhooo tell me what you think of Tara she no longer has a her leaves up & perky any more are they getting too heavy?
Incase you wondering why I have water at the bottom of that propagator its to increase the humidity which reached a max of 41% today without it it would be in the 20s.

Another thing when exactly is the veg stage established?

In other news I no longer have that cold & my coughs are all gone Yepeeee!

Wow!

You sure thats the same plant?

She is looking great. Is she droopy all of the time? or after watering/just before watering?

You can go with the Grow nutes now, you can start with 1/2 strength Ionic if you like. I prefer to build things up gradually tho (start with 1/4 strength and add a ml every other feed till I get to 1/2 strength)

That plant has definatley passed the seedling stage and is hurtling along in veg mode. As you want to take cuttings, I would transplant sooner rather than later, to give her time to adjust to her new pot.

And remember before you take cuttings, it is best to give her a flush of plain water, then feed her just water for a few days, coupled with misting her with plain water. This will lower the levels of nitrogen in the plant and increase the carbohydrates, which will make it easier for the clones you take to root.

As for foliar sprays, I would recommend Dutch Masters Liquid light.

Oh and good work, I'm impressed.

Thanks Trick, Im so pleased that I have got this far Im super excited to clone & flower but I cant do a thing until I make the vent mods in the flowering room.
By the way the leaves perk up at a 90 degree level after watering but in a couple of day they droop back down, Ill post pics of every hour from when I water tomorrow with nutes.

Quick question: Do you happen to know the U.K. equivalent of the following: http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=357&navid=11

I read this thread (https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/64528-wtf-wrong-my-clones-w-2.html) & "northeastern lights" (2nd page 4th post) says he had good results I think this will be a great product to use in the grow room but Im having difficulties finding it in the U.K.

I know Im going to have humidity problems in all chambers soon so Im getting prepared (the humidifier I recently purchased broke on the spot & the internet retailers will not reply to my messages thats over £50 down the drain. Lesson learnt dont make any internet purchases from website that dont display their contact details, Im so pissed off).