my first 400 watt grow

i have 2 seedlings in gal milk jugs, i didnt have anything else to plant them in. i also put those 2 directly into 12/12 with the others,s just to see if it would do anything. i have a buddy that says he only grows in 2 liters, like 40 smaller plants in a tent 4x4x7. your 2 liter pic reminded me of that.

how much does he get off each plant or harvest? next grow will be either 2 water farms and 2 soil of ww, or a bunch of small plants. i want to buy another 400 watt mh ballast off craigslist but dont have a place to hang it right now. so i have to wait on the perpeteuel grow for now. i could use my small wooden box, but only have some 18" and 24" T8 and only the 18" fit in the box.

he harvest around 1/4 to 1/2 ozx per, but he's growin 40 @ a time, so he's gettin pretty big harvests,
i am going to try the dwc, seems easier than the water farm systems, my friend chris has one and loves it though. he fd up bad on his first go, with soil. then went to the hydro farm, and now his girl looks amazing compared to his first go. heres a link to the dwc, cause with the watrerfarm you can only do 1 plant per bucket.

heres the build http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxT8wceO03E

heres the poerpetual i want to set up, super easy. super simple. great results. you should check into this before you buy the waterfarm. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXS4O562pAM

ive seen a couple of vids from the second person. the first 1 i dont like because the plants are so close together. my water farm was cheap to build. it cost about $35 to build 1 without a air pump. i have 2 air pumps a 10-30 gallon and a 30-60 gallon which will run 2 water farms. i like the water farms because its 1 plant per unit, they can grow very big without transplanting them at all. and if i decide to keep growing hydro i can change my water farms over to a ebb & gro style easily. i found a nice diy for a controller bucket for about $120 total online. looks easy to build.

my only concern personally is that for me spending 120 on one plant, even if it is only a 1 time investment is hard, as im pretty broke right now. cant work till spring. the dwc i can build for under 30 bucks, and have 2 plants, ( id only want 2 plants total per tote cause i agree, too close together) but those water farms are badass... im also mechanically challenged, lol. i know in my head that building a waterfarm would be easy, but for me personally id fuck it up! i am one of those people that has to buy things other people make, cause everything I make is broke!. when you build another bucket try to take some pics for me? i', upgrading soon, and would like to make an informed decision, looking at all different types of grows to find the one that works best for my space and ligfhts.

to make a water farm all you have to do is cut a hole the size of the brown tube in the bottom of the net pot. slide tubes down hole to see how much longer it was to the bucket, then cut brown and clear tube to make right size length. i also cut the drip ring down also, i wanted it smaller so it wasnt at the outside of the 10" net pot. if i build more water farms i'll go with 8" net pots so i use less hydroton. and make a small hole at the bottom of the 5 gallon bucket for the water level blue tube. so the parts list is 1-5 gallon bucket(lowe's for $2.54), 1-gh water farm kit($15), net pot($3-5), hydroton($10), then a air pump depending on how many of them you are going to use. a 10-30 gallon pump will run 1 farm, a 30-60 gallon pump will run 2 farms. i dont use a air stone in the bottom anymore. it seems to get enough air by just running the drip ring 24/7. and i just add premixed water/nutes to it, when the water level goes down, seems to work go for me. and the plant in my water farm looks and smells better then my soil plants.

thats the same thing my buddys doinj is why ive been even thinkin about upgrading to dwc, waterfarm buckets, whichever fits my budget and space.

you could save some of the money by just doing a bubbleponic. all you need is a bucket, net pot, hydroton, a pump and airstone. and i believe with those you hand water a couple times a day till you get roots in the water, then just keep water level with a air stone in bottom. hempy style is cheap also just a bucket and perlite with small holes about 2" from bottom i believe. i've been watching K2's hempy grow and have been thinking about trying it.

sounds good gonna check it out

my best lph in soil needed to be watered/feeed so i decided to put it in a bigger pot first it was in a 2 gallon pot now its in a 3 gallon pot

i think i would go with the waterfarm scottyballs some dude on ehre says he harvest something like 10-16oz's per harvest per plant so hell why not

im subbed

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/397158-first-time-grow-cfls.html

that is the link to my journal i started with cfl's now im running 400watthps

dirtycurty420 said:

i think i would go with the waterfarm scottyballs some dude on ehre says he harvest something like 10-16oz's per harvest per plant so hell why not

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10-16oz's per plant is allot. i dont have the growing space to grow a plant that big. ofcourse i have no clue how much my plants will even produce either. i'm hoping for 1.5-2oz's a plant from the 2 larger plants, but time will only tell.

my new bong showed up today i love this thing. i can take more then just 2 hits off it lol. my lungs arent what they used to be it has a ash catcher, double perk, and ice catcher. this thing hits nice as hell, without killing your lungs. it also came with a free glass pipe also. all together it was $84 with shipping. i got it from bongoutlet.ca i also got my blackstrap molasses in also.



what yall think?

Looks damn nice bro, take a big bong rip for me. You would probably have to take me to the emergency room if I took a hit off that because my lungs aren't what they used to be either.

dude this thing hits very smooth. normally after 2 bong hits i cant breath. ive taken atleast 5-6 already sense i got home and refilled all 4 spots with some nice clean snow water ive been melting snow for water instead of buying water. im sick of paying $1 a gallon. how do i change my avatar? i want my avatar my new bong and pipe.

super sweet

iv been looking at glass bongs myself, thats a niuce little set there mate

So how long did these plants take to mature?

i think a little over a month they started showing preflower. they have about 4-5 weeks left to finish on the larger soil ones.