My First grow

looks indica mainly because of the way i watched it grow... and the leaves resemble god bud which is very easy to come by

Is god bud a good smoke, if i've had it i, didn't know it. A friend of mine has a small plant, its definetly indica, because the leaves are almost as fat as long, where mine are relatively narrow compared to the length.... Anyway i hope she puts out for me, and she is a good smooth smoke , and not harsh, i've never had anytype of home grown, dunno if any headies i had were, but i know the afghani i've had before on a few occasions was, the bomb.

Woke up this morning, and put a ice pack inside the chamber 10mins after it came on, temp was at 81F, with icepack it dropped to 78F, so all is good and growth is coming in enormously, i really wonder if she's gonna get freakin massive, i have 6" of vertical room left.

Also felt the weight of the pot as the soil was dry on top, and fed her 1/2 gal, little over .5teaspoon molasses, slightly darker than last, an Apple Juice colored concentration.

I wonder how growth could have been if temps were much more moderated.......i'm still planning on moving towards the end of the summer/mid Aug., ~10weeks or so, but i need to have her finished/dried/cured by moving day, which is still undecided.

Just a nightly update, watered with 1/2 teaspoon molasses this morning into 1/2 gallon, Apple juice colored consistancy.



All pictures have close to the same orientation over the last week so you may bea ble to compair if you want.....anyway thats the canopy tonight. 30mins before bed. Also got a close up picture of one of the heads....



Picture is a tad of a degree dark so the greens look very dark green, but its rather spot on.

I removed some more fan leaves today that were inside of the center blocks, to increase more airflow, temp was hovering around 77 when i looked last...... What kind of tempertures would allow for purple hairs in bagseed, i know i'm not there but just wondering?

Cannot wait to see some bud development, its almost there.....i guess..

Wow man they look really healthy. How old are they? and how long have they been in flowering?

Er thats up in the air bro, Lets say i vegged for 23days, and they've been in flowering since the first of May, had some time issues the first week so didn't get full 12/12, from being impatient and disturbing them during the first few hrs before and after bedtime. So been Flowering since the first, so 37 days, and it sure as hell dosent look like it lol, with alot of heat problems up above 85F daily, normally peaking to 90F, so i could have shaved off some time without the heat problems....i got awhile to go, awhile, i just hope she'll be done in 8weeks from now, so i can dry and jar for another 2 or so.

Just feels like i'm still in veg, and i know time is set at 12/12.

So all in all the 7th or 8th of this month should be 2months since sprouting, for her.

What An Improvment, She Is Taking Off. Very Nice. Ms. Db.~tlb!

Yea she's beginning to take off, i'm just getting very concerned with height now.......no buddage coming at all as it looks this morning, but temps are perfect.

Anyway added an ice pack a while ago for the first 6hrs of lights on. Its sitting at 77F last i looked.

Heres a picture of the side of the canopy which is fairly even, though there are a few low spots...wierd. Anyway it sits about 3" above the screen, above that i have another 5-6" till the plexi, think i will need more??



Heres the top



And an upclose vertical shot of a single head.



Any suggestions, let it just grow up or, or keep pulling it down?? I'm afraid i'll run outof room. before she starts producing.

Is heat the only thing that was keeping my plant from flowering, because this is very odd as to what i've seen on here. j/w.

Yes That Is One Reason,,, Stress. The Othier Could Be A Light Leak Or The Timer Is Not Set Just Right. Blue Cheese Had A Simm. Prob. Thought It Was Cool, And It Was Not....so Check This Be More To The 11.5 Hours Of Light,,, Then We Can Know For Sure There Getting 12 Straight Dark... Pitch Black~
Db.

I'm with DB, something doesn't seem quite right. So they are about 8 weeks old with about 5 weeks of flower? Who knows though, maybe you just have a slow strain. 5 weeks isn't the end of the world, everything could be normal yet.

Will set it again and make sure its set on 13/11 instead of 12/12, just to be on the safe side.....

But looks to me on my timer 9' - 9'. And it goes off 2 mins till 9, and i beleive it comes on around 9, as its set the same way the other side is on the timer. No light leaks here, its inside a couple rubbermaids, and sealed very good. Had to be temp, and the light problems to begin with that i had being impatient.

She's definetly a girl, just waiting on her to fill out.......she just keeps bushing out.

Same thing happened to BlueCheesey. Like picasso said, it's most likely the strain. Some strains, usually sativas from Asia can take months to flower.

If its a Sativa i'll be VERY happy, i love a good sativa, hell a great sativa is good enough compaired to whats going around in town right now.........That pungent wet ass VERY compact beasters, has a slightly redish look to it.......coats your throat and gets you high, not my favorite by far, so anything may be better. I just hope she's smooth and has a good taste.

Anyway i'm not opposed to long flowering times at all, i just need to figure out a way to control her if she starts getting too big for me, and if i have 6-8weeks to go theres no tellign how big she might get......but the nodes are alternating all over the place.

Hmm i'll be happy if she's a sativa, but monkee also said mabey an indica based on how its growing so far.

The sativa you are looking for will have the following characteristics:

Tall, leggy stature
Spacious internodal length
A large root system
And of course, the fan blades are large and thin

I haven't read through all your journal yet, where did you get the seeds - bagseed I'm assuming? From what I've seen so far, it looks sativa to me.

Yes Bagseed, i think they were from some outdoor....100plants in a corn field as i was told, had alot, i mean ALOT of seeds. If its what i think it is, wasn't too much of a standout as i remember, so i'm just hoping its a suprise

But no the plant dosent have the characteristics of a typical sativa........But when you say leggy, and spacious internodal lenghts, whats the general differences in a indica and sativa for internodal lengths, i see most sativas being very tall, but mojority are untopped and untrained. She seems to have about .5" distances between alternating nodes on those tertiary growths, the average being arond 3-4" right now, the top 1-1.5" being alternating sites.

I have been removing fan leaves, a few every 4-5days to help airflow, and light penetration, so thats probobly shocking it, and slowing it as well, as i've read not to prune during flowering. I have no intentions of removing any other fan leaves as she has plenty of growth above the screen now. I just wonder why i have little develoment other than bushing out. Is the tucking that i'm doing keeping it from doing what it needs.......tertiary growth is now even with the head growth, along the tied lengths, should it start budding if its all growing at the same speed?

I'll probobly be watering tommorrow and 1.25 teaspoon Nutes, 2 teaspoons AJ.

Low temp has been 73F, high of 85F. Lights on from 9am-9pm. Uvb on from 1pm-5pm during peak.

I wouldn't be removing any fan leaves. From everything I've read, that is the craziest thing one can do. It may be possibly stressing the plant out as well. I think I read you were having problems with your temps? Anything at 85 and over, pretty much all growth stops. I think with a bit of Co2, that's not really an issue. You got a legit Co2 setup?

Difference in node length, not to sure. As I'm only on my first grow, most of what I tell you is from some experience that I received and from my readings from reputable sources. Do you see any pre flowers at all? I've read that putting a plant into flower before any pre flowers show can really stress the plant.

Nope she's a girl, defienntly a girl......got white hairs popping out everywhere on the major heads, not so muc yet on the tertiary growths coming in over the last few days.

CO2 is a 2L, 2 cups sugar/yiest/water 3/4 full......replaced once a week, shaken daily.

As far as leaves, I have only been removing them to get better airflow, and keep the plant cool. As i'm using molasses and high temperture makes the sugars ferment and the pot becomes a still, so low temps and lots of airflow must be kept. This was before temps were much higher....90F+ daily.

I've only removed them at the same time to lower the stress over the length of the time......and give her some time to recover.

I did more fine looking at her heads and the origional heads are beginning to fill out a little more with longer hairs that are easily visible without a 15x loop.

BTW she was sexed on the 26th, which was when female was confirmed.

You got something to actually measure the Co2 levels? And if I were you, I wouldn't remove anymore fan leaves. When you say better air flow, what exactly do you mean? I'm sure if you have fans circulating air in there, that should be enough, right? You got any other pics other then the above shots?

How long did the temps stay at 91+? That most likely stunted growth IMO.



***update***

Went back and looked at your setup. Damn, I didn't realize that was one plant that I was looking at before. From the top it looks like several plants! That is a monster you got on your hands bro! You originally had it in a rubber maid box?

Its still in one, and yea she's getting somewhat sizey, nothing more than i've seen other scrogs though, i beleive picasso had something like 4oz from a plant similar to this size.....but yea clam shelled rubbermaids, 18Gal each i beleive, or 21gal i forget, 35L.

I have no co2 monitor, just figure having it should help, she's very healthy can't be lacking i would think.

Single plant, in a 8" pot. when vegging i only topped her, which was at 1.5wks i beleive, would have given me 8 heads down her length, accidently removed the top 2 when i first topped her, so i only got 6heads. I gave her another 1.5wks or so vegging and I flowered on the first of last month, threw her on the scrog a few days later, which was a mistake so the training i did kept stunting her, but i couldn't control her without. I'm still waiting for her to come around, i'm giving myself about a week at the beginning of last month as a buffer from 18/6-12/12 as i disturbed her a few times those nights in the first 2hrs before and after lights on/off. Temps were 90+ for several weeks, dropped to mid 80's in the box for a week, then back up because of the weather here, but until recently the last weeks temps are perfect, at 77-80 daily, with 73 as a low at night....but even at 90+ the heads kept growing in length at that time, just recently in the last few days the inner growth has started coming in heavily, with every growth 1.5" or longer having 2-3 alternating sites with smaller growth coming in at those sites.

I'm just waiting on her really to come around.......i know if i would have known about the emergency blankets causing my heat problems, than she would be much farther along, and probobly showing alot more.....but i dunno, hell i might end up with a but load off a single plant.....if she ever comes around

Just going to keep watching her, nope to hell she fills in and i can control her, as i really have about 4" vertical room before the plexi comes down.

Do i need to give her more Phosphorus to kick her into flower overdrive....i image tommorow i will rewater again.

No more leaf removal needed at all. The only reason as i was told was keep air movement to keep mold down on a scrog, because of the heavy canopy layer, hot air below the canopy can't pass though, and O2 can catch under the leafs and bugs as well.

Will update again in a few with more pics at various angles, under, above, etc.

Depending on pot size, it can grow anywhere from 1-2 foot bigger.

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Yea, that will help promote bud sites all over the plant. P is what kicks it into gear.

I'm just up to giving her 1teaspoon 10-52-10 expert gardener bloom burst, gonna try and find some fox farm next time, but i keep upping the doses and this is the highest P i could find at walmart or anywhere around my area. Giving that along with Apple juice as well, 5x i beleive.

Weighted its 10-20.8-8, every other waterings, given molasses 3x now, yesterday was 3rd i beleive.