my ideas for soil

Hello first time grower here and i have some question/idea of how i want to i want my plants to grow from seed to flower

1st. i want to mix two part fox farm ocean soil with 1 part roots organic with nature's living soil and just water seed to harvest. I do not not if i should add nutes or top dress still during flower if i do it this way

2nd. Mr. koko just add gaia green 2-8-4 for seedling. Then when i transplant mr koko add oganic worm castings add gaia green 2-8-4 and 4-4-4. then just top dress with some 2-8-4 and organic worm casting.

which would be better ? please any info is worth if you have a different idea tell if you think my idea is shit tell me looking for advice and help

if you need more info about my whole setup just ask

I suugest the water only option but I don’t understand why you would use worm castings with Gaia green nutrients but not with just plain soil. Also why use three different brands of soil? Just pick one mix and go with that. You can always amend later as/if needed.
Will you still need nutrients? That depends mostly upon your water supply. The cleaner your water source the longer your mix will sustain plants. Keep adding ewc to the mix regularly in the form of compost or as a tea. Transplant as needed to keep them healthy and green. EWC tends to be heavy & loamy so you might need to add in more perlite to lighten it up. For bloom phase consider a slow release fertilizer like chicken or cow manure in your final size pots so then all you need to do is water them.

TrusmokerKing420 said:

Hello first time grower here and i have some question/idea of how i want to i want my plants to grow from seed to flower

1st. i want to mix two part fox farm ocean soil with 1 part roots organic with nature's living soil and just water seed to harvest. I do not not if i should add nutes or top dress still during flower if i do it this way

2nd. Mr. koko just add gaia green 2-8-4 for seedling. Then when i transplant mr koko add oganic worm castings add gaia green 2-8-4 and 4-4-4. then just top dress with some 2-8-4 and organic worm casting.

which would be better ? please any info is worth if you have a different idea tell if you think my idea is shit tell me looking for advice and help

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You've already set yourself up for failure. You can't call a cannabis plant "Mr." in any form unless you want him to spit his pollen out at ya. At least call her Mrs. Koko!

i meant mo koko it is the name of the of the coco mix

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Richard Drysift natures living soil is something you mix with and organic potting mix to make supersoil. i wasn't planing on using 3 soils just mixing roots organic and fox farm ocean soil

Richard Drysift said:

I suugest the water only option but I don’t understand why you would use worm castings with Gaia green nutrients but not with just plain soil. Also why use three different brands of soil? Just pick one mix and go with that. You can always amend later as/if needed.
Will you still need nutrients? That depends mostly upon your water supply. The cleaner your water source the longer your mix will sustain plants. Keep adding ewc to the mix regularly in the form of compost or as a tea. Transplant as needed to keep them healthy and green. EWC tends to be heavy & loamy so you might need to add in more perlite to lighten it up. For bloom phase consider a slow release fertilizer like chicken or cow manure in your final size pots so then all you need to do is water them.

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EWC? sorry not familiar with term?

EWC = Earthworm Castings

What makes any soil super is active compost; among other things. You can mix the base soils together if you want; that will be fine. For seedlings use the base soil cut with 1/3 of Mr coco or whatever coir you have. Once they have some nodes you can transplant to your full strength “super soil” mix. I steer anyone away from using nutrients; but if you need to give soluble NPK I suggest something mild and safe like liquid fish emulsion; I like Neptune’s harvest w/seaweed myself but any liquid fish will do. They will likely need a boost late in flower or if they are in the same container for too long in veg.
Be sure to add earth worm castings aka EWC. Don’t skimp on it. The fresher and more active it is the better. Bagged EWC is ok but farmed worms are usually fed mostly paper scraps. Home made compost from a worm bin is typically more active and higher brix because worms are fed fruit/veg scraps, cannabis leaf/stem, coffee grinds, etc. If you want to grow mostly water only starting a compost pile or worm bin is a great investment/benefit. EWC/heavy compost can make the mix a bit too mucky so you might need more perlite/coco to cut it down.
Some of the trick to water only growing is mycorrhizae. Use granular myco by sprinkling some in the hole at each transplant; place the root ball directly in contact with it. You don’t need much to inoculate a container. You’ll notice once the myc bites onto the root system plants appear happy. Mycorrhizae helps with absorption of nutrients in the soil so then all you gotta do is water them. You can get generic white label myco on the cheap or spend a lot more for products like great white but in my exp all granular myco products seem to work the same regardless of price. I use Myko xtreme these days.

Richard Drysift said:

What makes any soil super is active compost; among other things. You can mix the base soils together if you want; that will be fine. For seedlings use the base soil cut with 1/3 of Mr coco or whatever coir you have. Once they have some nodes you can transplant to your full strength “super soil” mix. I steer anyone away from using nutrients; but if you need to give soluble NPK I suggest something mild and safe like liquid fish emulsion; I like Neptune’s harvest w/seaweed myself but any liquid fish will do. They will likely need a boost late in flower or if they are in the same container for too long in veg.
Be sure to add earth worm castings aka EWC. Don’t skimp on it. The fresher and more active it is the better. Bagged EWC is ok but farmed worms are usually fed mostly paper scraps. Home made compost from a worm bin is typically more active and higher brix because worms are fed fruit/veg scraps, cannabis leaf/stem, coffee grinds, etc. If you want to grow mostly water only starting a compost pile or worm bin is a great investment/benefit. EWC/heavy compost can make the mix a bit too mucky so you might need more perlite/coco to cut it down.
Some of the trick to water only growing is mycorrhizae. Use granular myco by sprinkling some in the hole at each transplant; place the root ball directly in contact with it. You don’t need much to inoculate a container. You’ll notice once the myc bites onto the root system plants appear happy. Mycorrhizae helps with absorption of nutrients in the soil so then all you gotta do is water them. You can get generic white label myco on the cheap or spend a lot more for products like great white but in my exp all granular myco products seem to work the same regardless of price. I use Myko xtreme these days.

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Thanks after your first post went back to drawing board and now im thinking of using the natures living soil (NLS) with just my mo koko poting mix and just top dressing with 2-8-4 bloom from gaia green and some EWC maybe a little guano. How does this sound

TrusmokerKing420 said:

Thanks after your first post went back to drawing board and now im thinking of using the natures living soil (NLS) with just my mo koko poting mix and just top dressing with 2-8-4 bloom from gaia green and some EWC maybe a little guano. How does this sound

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Guano is overhyped; works same as any other slow release fertilizer. Sounds like it is killing you to use Gaia green. Nothing wrong with that it is just not the best option imo.

give me your opinion then bud for start what is the best coco and what can i had if im using NLS what can i top dress with

what can i add

Coco coir is just coconut husk; doesn’t really matter what brand. I like the botanicare coco but that’s just me. Top dress with worm castings. Add water. Don’t over think it; keep it simple. Adding nutrients defeats the purpose of the NL “super” soil you have already spent hard cash on.

Ok thanks just one last question it is ok to mix coco coir with NLS. Is the brand you use organic

Coconut husk is organic; some brands contain salts from processing but it can be rinsed out. Yes you can mix it in with your base soil. I suggest adding perlite as well.

Sweet i fugured as much containing the part on perlite. You were a big help. Just to recap.

I can mix with NLS add perlite. No nutes or fertilizer(gaia green) just top with EWC.
How often would i top with EWC?
Sorry for all question just want to make sure i get everything right

My setup by the way
5x5 Gorrila grow tent
E720 growers choice led light
I want to use 7 gallon pots about 4 maybe 5 plants MAX. use solo cups for seedling then tranplant in 7 gallon all the way to harvest i want organic grow i heard coco coir was the way to go.