my pride&joy are dieing

SeriousSmoker

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they're not dying they'll be fine
1. over fertilizing - cut out all fertilizers and water with clean distilled water at 6.3 pH until they look better
2. soil looks dry time to water!
 

bterz

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Everyone has been telling me those are signs of over-watering.

I watered last night. I havnt been feeding. :(
 

SeriousSmoker

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if u havent been feeding my diagnosis was wrong!

water when the soil is dry, perhaps ur roots arent very fully developed

how old are the plants? what lights? pH of water??GIVE US SOME INFO SO WE CAN HELP U

overwatering may definitely be the problem if ur not feeding yet
 

bterz

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Well I have fed but lately Ive been laying off. It could be over-fertilizer but I always start on low low doses.

My PH is 6.5. The plants are about 2 weeks old, under 1 600w HPS.

:( Im just really sad sorry for sounding like a prick.
 

SeriousSmoker

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1. you dont sound like a prick
2. cheer up they'll be ok
3. do this- keep pH between 6-6.5, make sure ur pH tester is accurate
NO NUTRIENTS NOW, just until they look better
water Only when soil is dry around the plant,
and get that light 12 inches above
 

bterz

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The light is as low as it will go right now... about 16 inches. The tempatures were a perfect 76 degrees.

I will continue to give regular water when the soil is dry.

Thanks for the help man I appreciate it
 

lampshade

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Dude that soil is bone dry. Also i see a wee bit of water on the soil. Is that all you use to water? Overwater isnt giving it too much water at once its giving it water to frequently. Those guys looks thirsty as hell. Over water makes plants droop, b/c the cell get too pressurized and leak/burst so the plant loses water pressure, and it begins to get no oxygen to the roots. Underwater makes the leaves droop AND curl up along the margings. This helps trap the water that transpires(evaporates) out of the stomata on the top of the leaf. Water those guys with some water of 6.5ph.
 

Stoney McFried

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I'd say water.Water them until water comes out the bottom, then don't water again till the top of the soil is dry when you stick the tip of your finger in.And try sticking your hand under the light for 30 seconds,at the level of your plants, just to make sure...sometimes even though the temps in the room are good, the area right under the light can get a little hot for the plants.
 

bterz

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Dang lampshade good info.

I gave them water last night, and where you can see the water is about where I water them. I water them at the base of the plant and let it just go where it wants. I figured the roots arent big enough to be sucking up tons of water.

The time I watered before this, I gave them a shit load and they showed signs of over-watering. Here is a picture of when I over-watered...actually it might have just been because they were sleeping..


I was also told Drywall had effects on PH levels. I know I had tons of drywall dust around these girls and I think it may be fluctuating my PH...I need to test my run-off.
 

bterz

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I can literally hold the top side of my hand on the glass for however long. The tempatures of the ROOM are about 67 while the canopy tempature is about 77.

They better snap out of it.

I'm scared to water because I've been getting mixed reviews of "under watered/overwatered" ..

Last night when I watered I got a tad bit of run-off.

My healthiest looking plant is the lightest when I pick up the pots.
 

doctorherb

Active Member
BRO,
Your healthiest is the lightest because she drank all the water in the soil !!!!!
Watering is usually done about once a week,however, when watering fill the WHOLE container to the lip,to ensure all the soil is drenched, with proper drainage, everything will slowly dry out with no rot and the process starts over.
The vegging roots are all over the container not just at the stem base !!!
 

lampshade

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When you water you really need to saturate all of the soil, again thats not overwatering. Go on you tube and watch Jorge Cervantes Grow DVD. You will see how much water this guys uses. Again watering before the soil drys out is overwatering. Also i had a friend who was underwatering his plants (too little to often) and when we soaked the soil they wilted also, it was wierd. But then the next day they were fine, and after that they were adapted to heavy waterings. Cannabis has a tap root that grows very long (in search of the water table). Watering at the bottom and sides of the pot has also been proven to increase root size by making the roots spread out in order to get the avaliable water and nutrients. I would really try giving the soil a good soak and then letting it dry out completly and do it again. Remeber in nature, regardless of the size of the plant, the plant gets absolutly soaked and then it doesnt ran for a while. Hope this helps. Lampshade.
 

bterz

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I found out that DRYWALL dust effects PH and I had drywall dust allover (on top of my soil, on top of my leafs, insides of the pots)

I washed them off with a spray bottle probably having all the leafs soak up the drywall dust.

Now the drywall dust that was on top of the soil got brought down into the roots.

I think im going to flush.
 
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