Need help choosing a base hydro nute.

jin420

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So after days searching the web I've only been further befuddled and given a occular migraine so I figured I'd ask what my bud brothers and sisters here at RUI what they are using. Have used gh bloom/micro with the lucas formula, h&g aqua flakes and an bloom/micro again with the lucas formula but its been awhile and my memory is off due to a undiagnosed neruological disease. Using CES 3 part right now and am having k deficiencies but that may have been due to me being rusty and being out of the loop a few years. I also started these girls in perilite hempys instead of starting in drip totes with hydroton and moving to perilite hempys during flowering like I used to so I'll be going back to that method.

The additives I have already are x nutrients amino blast, uncle johns blend, bontaicare cal-mag, protekt silca, an bud candy and ultra snow storm. I'll be getting gravity and looking into moab, bud blood and overdrive.

My main concern is what would be the best base hydro nutrients I could use. I found a old thread here where somebody said plain maxigrow and maxibloom beats an and h&g. I don't care which brand it is I'm just trying to find the best base nutes I can use. I have a high end milwaukee combo meter so adjusting ph and ppm levels is not a issue. Sorry if that was a long winded post I appreciate any input on this.
 

intenseneal

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If i was doing hydro which i am thinking about doing, i would use Hydroponics Research Veg+Bloom or their HD version. I have heard great things about this nute and really want to try it. Or tried and true GH Flora trio.
 

jronnn

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So after days searching the web I've only been further befuddled and given a occular migraine so I figured I'd ask what my bud brothers and sisters here at RUI what they are using. Have used gh bloom/micro with the lucas formula, h&g aqua flakes and an bloom/micro again with the lucas formula but its been awhile and my memory is off due to a undiagnosed neruological disease. Using CES 3 part right now and am having k deficiencies but that may have been due to me being rusty and being out of the loop a few years. I also started these girls in perilite hempys instead of starting in drip totes with hydroton and moving to perilite hempys during flowering like I used to so I'll be going back to that method.

The additives I have already are x nutrients amino blast, uncle johns blend, bontaicare cal-mag, protekt silca, an bud candy and ultra snow storm. I'll be getting gravity and looking into moab, bud blood and overdrive.

My main concern is what would be the best base hydro nutrients I could use. I found a old thread here where somebody said plain maxigrow and maxibloom beats an and h&g. I don't care which brand it is I'm just trying to find the best base nutes I can use. I have a high end milwaukee combo meter so adjusting ph and ppm levels is not a issue. Sorry if that was a long winded post I appreciate any input on this.
it seems like a bunch of people are using maxigro and maxibloom, thats what i got. from what I've read everywhere the best method is the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid) I'm not sure if you know who Al B. Fuct is but he would say on his posts thats its retarded for people to try to make their own formulas with other peoples products, its just throwing down dozens of years of research down the tube. So basically i would either use something super simple like 8-16 lucas formula or maxigro/bloom (most economical) or flora nova(most expensive). i suggest looking at this website http://lucasformula.com for more info. I'm not qualified to be giving out advice but its quite clear GH products are the most used ones of all others
 

Aeroknow

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it seems like a bunch of people are using maxigro and maxibloom, thats what i got. from what I've read everywhere the best method is the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid) I'm not sure if you know who Al B. Fuct is but he would say on his posts thats its retarded for people to try to make their own formulas with other peoples products, its just throwing down dozens of years of research down the tube. So basically i would either use something super simple like 8-16 lucas formula or maxigro/bloom (most economical) or flora nova(most expensive). i suggest looking at this website http://lucasformula.com for more info. I'm not qualified to be giving out advice but its quite clear GH products are the most used ones of all others
Actually, in the end, the floranova is about the same price as using the floraseries or just two parts of it;-)
5ml/gal of floranova bloom is just about as strong as 15ml/gal of a floraseries bloom formula. Same with grow.
Floranova is 3X's the potency but costs about 3X's more per volume than even the micro.
 

jronnn

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Actually, in the end, the floranova is about the same price as using the floraseries or just two parts of it;-)
5ml/gal of floranova bloom is just about as strong as 15ml/gal of a floraseries bloom formula. Same with grow.
Floranova is 3X's the potency but costs about 3X's more per volume than even the micro.
ahhh thanks for the correction like i said I'm not qualified to be giving out advice but the lucas website says its "not the cheapest" and everywhere I've read they say its more expensive but maybe they weren't taking potency into consideration, just volume
 

kmog33

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Get whatever's on sale, they're all, more or less, the same. I'm using general hydro and botanicare pure blend right now. It's more about feeding you plant what it wants when it needs it than having the most expensive or newest Nutes out there.


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shorelineOG

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it seems like a bunch of people are using maxigro and maxibloom, thats what i got. from what I've read everywhere the best method is the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid) I'm not sure if you know who Al B. Fuct is but he would say on his posts thats its retarded for people to try to make their own formulas with other peoples products, its just throwing down dozens of years of research down the tube. So basically i would either use something super simple like 8-16 lucas formula or maxigro/bloom (most economical) or flora nova(most expensive). i suggest looking at this website http://lucasformula.com for more info. I'm not qualified to be giving out advice but its quite clear GH products are the most used ones of all others
Been growing hydro for years and have used many products and done side by side comparisons. Use tap water and dyna gro. Use cal mag by botanicare because it also has iron. Top off with fresh water. No additives. Follow directions for strength, learn to read the plants some plants are heavy feeders. Don't worry about ppm. After a couple of weeks into flower I switch to botanicare pure blend bloom base nutrient. Then flush for a week or two until the plant fades in color.
 

jronnn

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Been growing hydro for years and have used many products and done side by side comparisons. Use tap water and dyna gro. Use cal mag by botanicare because it also has iron. Top off with fresh water. No additives. Follow directions for strength, learn to read the plants some plants are heavy feeders. Don't worry about ppm. After a couple of weeks into flower I switch to botanicare pure blend bloom base nutrient. Then flush for a week or two until the plant fades in color.
i have calmat plus by botanicare and i recently got the 2.2 bags of maxi bloom and gro you've found dynagro is the best out of all of what you tried? you've tried maxi, flora nova, 8-16 lucas formula and canna and all the other stuff too?
 

shorelineOG

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i have calmat plus by botanicare and i recently got the 2.2 bags of maxi bloom and gro you've found dynagro is the best out of all of what you tried? you've tried maxi, flora nova, 8-16 lucas formula and canna and all the other stuff too?
Not the best because they are basically all the same thing. Dynagro is cheaper and simpler to use. Maxibloom is also a good choice and will give the same results.
 

jronnn

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Not the best because they are basically all the same thing. Dynagro is cheaper and simpler to use. Maxibloom is also a good choice and will give the same results.
oh alright the maxi was cheap as hell. i actually just calculated the difference of price per gallon and assuming you use 7g of maxibloom per gallon of water and 15ml of dynagro per gallon (recommended on nute chart) and you compare similar priced amounts (15$ for 2.2 of maxi and 17$ for 32oz of dyna) you pay 10.56 cents per gallon of maxi and just under 30 cents per gallon of dyna, although if you bought 128oz of dyna for $48 it comes to 19 cents per gallon which is cheap but still not cheaper then the maxibloom. unless maybe your hydro store sells the maxibloom for more then $15 but its cheaper for me to get maxi
 

Greedy-Green

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So after days searching the web I've only been further befuddled and given a occular migraine so I figured I'd ask what my bud brothers and sisters here at RUI what they are using. Have used gh bloom/micro with the lucas formula, h&g aqua flakes and an bloom/micro again with the lucas formula but its been awhile and my memory is off due to a undiagnosed neruological disease. Using CES 3 part right now and am having k deficiencies but that may have been due to me being rusty and being out of the loop a few years. I also started these girls in perilite hempys instead of starting in drip totes with hydroton and moving to perilite hempys during flowering like I used to so I'll be going back to that method.

The additives I have already are x nutrients amino blast, uncle johns blend, bontaicare cal-mag, protekt silca, an bud candy and ultra snow storm. I'll be getting gravity and looking into moab, bud blood and overdrive.

My main concern is what would be the best base hydro nutrients I could use. I found a old thread here where somebody said plain maxigrow and maxibloom beats an and h&g. I don't care which brand it is I'm just trying to find the best base nutes I can use. I have a high end milwaukee combo meter so adjusting ph and ppm levels is not a issue. Sorry if that was a long winded post I appreciate any input on this.
You could debate this for hours and still not be sure lmao
It depends on what you want to pay and what you want to get out of your plants/how much effort you want to put in,
Me personally I'd go for the advanced nutrients ph grow and bloom with the bud blood (or big bud) bud candy (or blackstrap mollosis) and over drive but I am not a preecher for advanced nutrients and I know you can the same buds of cheaper nutes but tbf iv found it easier with advanced nutrients

Good luck choosing man and Happy Farmin
 

shorelineOG

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Get whatever's on sale, they're all, more or less, the same. I'm using general hydro and botanicare pure blend right now. It's more about feeding you plant what it wants when it needs it than having the most expensive or newest Nutes out there.


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oh alright the maxi was cheap as hell. i actually just calculated the difference of price per gallon and assuming you use 7g of maxibloom per gallon of water and 15ml of dynagro per gallon (recommended on nute chart) and you compare similar priced amounts (15$ for 2.2 of maxi and 17$ for 32oz of dyna) you pay 10.56 cents per gallon of maxi and just under 30 cents per gallon of dyna, although if you bought 128oz of dyna for $48 it comes to 19 cents per gallon which is cheap but still not cheaper then the maxibloom. unless maybe your hydro store sells the maxibloom for more then $15 but its cheaper for me to get maxi
 

MisterBlah

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Maxigro 10-5-14 (This is a solid blend, percentages, by weight, are listed)

Calcium Nitrate: 34.34597%
Magnesium Sulfate: 22.19637%
Potassium Nitrate: 22.12855%
Mono Potassium Phosphate: 9.57764%
Ammonium Nitrate: 7.37428%
Potassium Sulfate: 2.09633%
Dipotassium Phosphate: 1.12112%
Fe-chelated 18%: 0.72508%
Mn-chelated 18%: 0.30212%
Zn-chelated 20%: 0.08212%
Mo-Chelated 8%: 0.02719%
Cu-chelated 17%: 0.01599%
Bo-chelated 15%: 0.00725%

Maxibloom 5-15-14 (This is a solid blend, percentages, by weight, are listed)

Magnesium Sulfate: 32.15513%
Calcium Nitrate: 27.50111%
Dipotassium Phosphate: 16.76703%
Mono Potassium Phosphate: 16.07378%
Magnesium Nitrate: 5.27545%
Mono Ammonium Phosphate: 0.77402%
Ammonium Nitrate: 0.74780%
Fe-chelated 18%: 0.58058%
Zn-chelated 20%: 0.05748%
Cu-chelated 17%: 0.03688%
Mo-Chelated 8%: 0.01437%
Bo-chelated 15%: 0.00697%
Mn-chelated 18%: 0.00581%
Co-chelated 16%: 0.00359%

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guardiangk

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Amazon -

Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro $7.63 / 8 Fl oz. or $0.16 / tsp. I use 1/4 tsp per gallon in Veg which is bout $.04 / gallon. I am not doing the math on Maxibloom but $.04/gallon is hard to beat.

Some very experienced growers usedit all the way through. I would personally recommend FP in conjunction with Pro-Tekt (Do some research on silicone). 1/4 strength in Veg, 1/2 strength in flower. Tweak to your taste.

Cheap, simple.
 

jronnn

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Amazon -

Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro $7.63 / 8 Fl oz. or $0.16 / tsp. I use 1/4 tsp per gallon in Veg which is bout $.04 / gallon. I am not doing the math on Maxibloom but $.04/gallon is hard to beat.

Some very experienced growers usedit all the way through. I would personally recommend FP in conjunction with Pro-Tekt (Do some research on silicone). 1/4 strength in Veg, 1/2 strength in flower. Tweak to your taste.

Cheap, simple.
i was referring to dynagro bloom (15ml/gal) and their recommended servings along with maxibloom servings (7g/gal) in full flower, also referring to the prices of my shop nehydro.com which actually has cheaper prices then a lot online store like amazon on a lot of stuff but I've heard of silica making bigger roots and stems and making the plant less prone to disease but i don't think i have read much on silicone
 
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