Need help with how to make buds really dank and potent

Hey everyone. I would like some advice on some issues I have with a friend and my first harvest. I used ebb and flow 800plus watt lights. Nutrients were mostly H&G. Yields are really nice to be honest, I am just confused about a few other things that I will try to outline below.

1. The buds after harvest smell and taste more like soil and nutrients then actual dank bud smell. Very passive smell to it really. Nothing like wooohf cant get enough of that smell. Its bland basically. Anyone know why this is happening?

2. The high is hardly potent. It is just a small head change that might require to smoke a lot of to feel a bit stoned. This is also very annoying as the buds actually are nice and big. But the high is hardly there.

3. The look of the bud is not as nice as I see at the dispensaries.

In other words, how on earth do I get these buds to be as dank as possible. Flushing is basically done basically a week or a few days before harvest. Anything else I dont know what to do or how to even attempt. Like I said yields are nice but everything else needs help big time. The high, smell, taste, appearance. Can you guys please tell me how you guys get your stuff to be the best and get you real stoned. Am i supposed to do Organic based nutrients instead to make it smell dank and get you stoned or what?

If you're sure the strain is not a problem then obviously its either environment or nutrients. With little info its impossible to know.

im starting to think the strain might be the problem. There are two other plants that do smell a lot better. I never knew that strains can be crappy. Nutrients really not sure of. If it is the strains, is it possible to know where I can go ahead and order seeds that are trustworthy with good genetics so I dont run into this problem?

ehitskit00 said:

im starting to think the strain might be the problem. There are two other plants that do smell a lot better. I never knew that strains can be crappy. Nutrients really not sure of. If it is the strains, is it possible to know where I can go ahead and order seeds that are trustworthy with good genetics so I dont run into this problem?

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I'd say there's 3 possibilities. It could be the strain, it could be you didn't dry it enough, and it could be that it needs to cure longer. How long did you have it curing?

What strain is it?

1.The curing and drying process is generally going to be why you are getting a soil/nutrient smell and taste.

2.The genetics can indeed make a huge different in the quality of herb you get.

3.This again has to to do with the drying/curing process but also how you harvest the buds. Dispensary buds are grown in optimal conditions, are yours?

I would actually recommend not flushing and you can look this up; the plant can become stressed during the flushing period and some very experienced growers have said not to do this.
I've found my dankest plants have fan leaves that turn almost completely yellow when its time to harvest which is a sign that the plant is now done. I had a sour diesel plant i could've harvested at 9 weeks, I waited till weak 11 for it to completely finish and it was the dankest weed I've smoked in my life.

strain is a kush i think its the OG kush, not sure. Anyways it doesnt have that distinct kush smell at all. It is in fairly optimum temperatures, the drying was just done basically by hanging the buds in a semi cool area with a little fan blowing on them. Curing has not helped really. Unless there is something that I am missing with curing. It still has a hay plantish smell to it and taste. Basically it does not wreak and I want them to wreak.

cranker said:

I'd say there's 3 possibilities. It could be the strain, it could be you didn't dry it enough, and it could be that it needs to cure longer. How long did you have it curing?

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Curing will bring out a little more potency but if the shit don't get you high after harvest a cure isnt going to change much.

OP, dope-seeds.com is what I use.

ouch, dope- seeds dont ship to usa. im in california is there anywhere I can go or i can get shipped that have trustworthy genetics

ehitskit00 said:

strain is a kush i think its the OG kush, not sure. Anyways it doesnt have that distinct kush smell at all. It is in fairly optimum temperatures, the drying was just done basically by hanging the buds in a semi cool area with a little fan blowing on them. Curing has not helped really. Unless there is something that I am missing with curing. It still has a hay plantish smell to it and taste. Basically it does not wreak and I want them to wreak.

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Did you trim it right? Hay (or homegrown) smell can be from to much leaf material left on the bud, or it just could be a shitty strain. If you want better and stronger smelling the best thing you can do (assuming the rest of your nutrients are correct) is add either molasses if you're in dirt or a sugar based additive such as Bud Candy if you're doing hydro.

i did trim right definitaley, and the stuff after harvest did not get me high. were talking about something thats supposed to be a kush here to be honest. nugs were nice and big, but the high was little or nonexistent to me compared to other og kush ive smoked. the taste was not there either. I will look into Bud Candy never heard of it, any idea how it is supposed to be used? Although I still doubt Bud Candy can make the bud potent

ehitskit00 said:

ouch, dope- seeds dont ship to usa. im in california is there anywhere I can go or i can get shipped that have trustworthy genetics

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Damn, you're right! They must've changed that recently because I got some from them 6 months ago. The Attitude would be my 2nd choice, http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/

No, Bud Candy will not increase potency, but it will definitely bring out smell and taste. I grow for a dispensary and about a year ago I noticed I was not getting the smell I wanted out of a lot of my strains so I decided to try some Bud Candy and the difference was night and day. Bud Candy is a little expensive so I did a side by side comparison with Bud Candy and GH Floranectar and it seemed to be just as good.

thanks for your help eagle, i will look into those... so you do you think Ill be better off not flushing at all and incorporate bud candy (how do you actually use bud candy? is it relatively simple to use?

I'm in the minority, I'm an advocate of NOT flushing for reasons I won't get into. Bud Candy is simply an additive you pour into your reservoir just like any other additive. You are growing in hydro, correct?

yes got it. i thought you were going to say something like add it in the 4th week or something like that. but ok will just read the bottle.

if u want decent weed dry it for 2 weeks and keep it air tight for at least 5 weeks, it will get more potent the longer u cure it

the plant taste or comershal taste wont go untill at least 4 weeks of curing

Although I did do the "flush" thing as advised by these forums when I first started growing indoors, I stopped doing it when I finally figured out that (for me) it was better to let the plant use up what nutes were left in the soil.
A proper dry and cure will make or break the taste and smell. Ya gotta cure it right.
Even bagseed can be killer genetics. Your potency issues are confusing. What kind of seed did you get and where did you get them? Did you harvest too early? The ONE time my buds were disappointing, I harvested way too early. (My second)

to be honest someone just gave the clones, i have never been able to get in touch with hte person again since he has since moved out of town. so I have no idea about the genetics, its seeds, not even what kind of kush its supposed to be. it definitaley looks like an og kush plant. hence my frustration. i guess i can cure them for little longer but im telling you its been two weeks or so so far, there is no difference with the high nor the taste. they are nonexistent so far.