Need info on cloning

420bill

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I cut my clones like 2 weeks ago and put then in Rockwell put them under a dome,now they have roots coming out of the Rockwell so I took 1 and put the whole thing in soil and gave it lots of water no nuts just water I came back in a few hours and it was so wilted it looked like it was going to die so I put it back under the dome and it came back ..my ? is after the roots are showing what do I do to keep it living ????
 

Krondizzel

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Also, a bit of transplant shock. It happens. I'm sure they will perk up. Just don't over water. That rockwool holds a lot of moisture.
 

Fresh 2 De@th

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hey did you make sure the clone was fully acclimated before you permanently removed it from the dome? and if so, it is exactly what Krondizzle has suggested, too much water for them roots.
 

polyarcturus

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and you had it in the dome under high humidity. thats what shocked it.

lower the humidity in you clone dome slowly so its not so high, other wise, get the sandwich baggies out and cut a corner off and put it over you clone, misting them as often as you can always helps too instead of watering.
 

Krondizzel

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and you had it in the dome under high humidity. thats what shocked it.

lower the humidity in you clone dome slowly so its not so high, other wise, get the sandwich baggies out and cut a corner off and put it over you clone, misting them as often as you can always helps too instead of watering.
I think domes are silly. Aero-cloner for the win. Straight up.
 

polyarcturus

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what i like to do with my rockwool to ensure i start at proper moisture cause i can probably say it safe to assume your over saturating them, is pick them up, get them completely saturated then, shake the water out of them till only a few drops and it feels like a good weight.(not shake the shit out them obviosly but let gravity do the work im not sure how o describe the motion, but its just a rising and falling of the cube using your hand to stop the cub in mid motion in the down stroke forcing the water out the bottom due to inertia.)
 

Krondizzel

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Have you used rapid rooters in an aero cloner? Transition to clay pebbles (hydroton or generic pebbles)? That's the best way I have found so far.
 

Fresh 2 De@th

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Shouldn't matter. Aero-cloners don't have domes.
hmm, okay. didn't realize he was using an aero cloner.

and you had it in the dome under high humidity. thats what shocked it.

lower the humidity in you clone dome slowly so its not so high, other wise, get the sandwich baggies out and cut a corner off and put it over you clone, misting them as often as you can always helps too instead of watering.
was thinking the same thing, but being that he saturated his soil already, he would have to let it dry out some before misting them and placing soda bottle or baggie plant over them.
 

polyarcturus

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i use DWC, the best way to go is mediumless for me.

i used to aero clone but unless you make a very well made manifold and have the proper pump it wont really work well, store bough have the injection molded mainfolds and work great. if you using rooters your not really aerocloning persay(till the roots hit the water), but it is an efficient method i used to use my self, but then i started to have issues with rapid rooters becoming rapid rotters.
 

polyarcturus

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also i dont think hes using an aerocloner, i think he using rockwool in trays.

and you dont need a dome over an aerocloner or bubble cloner. or any other method, if you can keep the media consistently moist.
 

Krondizzel

New Member
hmm, okay. didn't realize he was using an aero cloner.


was thinking the same thing, but being that he saturated his soil already, he would have to let it dry out some before misting them and placing soda bottle or baggie plant over them.
I think you misunderstood me... I run an aerocloner with no dome. I used to deal with the dome but later figured out, it was worthless and didnt need it.
 

Krondizzel

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i use DWC, the best way to go is mediumless for me.

i used to aero clone but unless you make a very well made manifold and have the proper pump it wont really work well, store bough have the injection molded mainfolds and work great. if you using rooters your not really aerocloning persay(till the roots hit the water), but it is an efficient method i used to use my self, but then i started to have issues with rapid rooters becoming rapid rotters.
I didn't make it. I buy my equipment. Shit's legit I must say.

I never had "rapidrotter" issues. Once the plants get big enough, they simply bust free from the rooter.. usually at about 30" tall is when I can peel the rooter off and out of the medium.
 

Krondizzel

New Member
hmm, okay. i thought you were speaking for the op and said he was using an aero cloner. got you.
Nope. I simply meant, I don't run a dome on an aero cloner, so.. I don't see a use for one. I got tired of the dumb stuff (watering trays, dealing with domes, etc) and just got a sick aero cloner. Problem solved.
 

polyarcturus

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I didn't make it. I buy my equipment. Shit's legit I must say.
lmafao, well if you have built as many as i have you would understand. the real deal aerocloners work well. as for the rotting issue... the problem with my system at that time was a combination of the ambient temps and the pump, and the amount of water i would fit in my container. so the water would stay too warm probably 90 degrees sometimes.
 

Krondizzel

New Member
lmafao, well if you have built as many as i have you would understand. the real deal aerocloners work well. as for the rotting issue... the problem with my system at that time was a combination of the ambient temps and the pump, and the amount of water i would fit in my container. so the water would stay too warm probably 90 degrees sometimes.
I built enough to have said screw it and buy the equipment. Sometimes saving a buck isn't worth it. Cloning really isn't a place to try to shortcut $$. The right stuff means you're on the right path.
 

420bill

Member
I am using trays with Rockwell and the clear dome that comes with them ..after reading a few of these post I think the problem is going from around 100% humidity to what ever is in my grow room (so with no dome)I am going to try to leave the dome off a bit so it is not sealed and more air can get in,,,thank you all
 

ASMALLVOICE

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I use a small clear plastic container and it holds about 8-10 decent sized clones up to 8" tall. I use the jiffy cubes and a rooting powder, so far with 2 sets of clones 9 for 10, so I am happy for now.
I will eventually look into an aero cloner, but I only do about 4-5 at a time, so can't justify it atm.

Peace

Asmallvoice
 
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