New feeding routine? Any tips of when to use each?

beuffer420

beuffer420

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I think we all should get along in a more professional manner personally. We all have our opinions and what works for us in our gardens. Bens garden won't look like mine or home brewers or scoobies even with the same nutes. What I've learned is nutrients are nutrients. it's about how much the ratio of what's in the nutrients and how we apply them that's important. All plants need the essentials to grow. It's more can u find the ratios and keep it happy and healthy.

A plant ant doesn't know or care what line of nutes it gets. More so, it cares about are the nutes it's getting efficiently balanced for it to properly keep a good metabolism and photosynthesizing properly.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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beuffer420 said:
I think we all should get along in a more professional manner personally. We all have our opinions and what works for us in our gardens. Bens garden won't look like mine or home brewers or scoobies even with the same nutes. What I've learned is nutrients are nutrients. it's about how much the ratio of what's in the nutrients and how we apply them that's important. All plants need the essentials to grow. It's more can u find the ratios and keep it happy and healthy.

A plant ant doesn't know or care what line of nutes it gets. More so, it cares about are the nutes it's getting efficiently balanced for it to properly keep a good metabolism and photosynthesizing properly.
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You raise a good point. However take a look at the whole crop of new growers using these shit products. Lacking even a basic understanding of plant biology, probably the first plant they've ever grown, buying into a false narrative brought on the behalf of slick marketing. I could literally post over a hundred links to people asking for help while utilizing these products. Half of these people would avoid such problems using a complete fertilizer, not 3-6 bottles of bullshit. The other half probably are simply too stupid to grow a plant, following bad advice and thinking they can beat or speed up mother nature.
 
ScoobyDoobyDoo

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TonightYou said:
You raise a good point. However take a look at the whole crop of new growers using these shit products. Lacking even a basic understanding of plant biology, probably the first plant they've ever grown, buying into a false narrative brought on the behalf of slick marketing. I could literally post over a hundred links to people asking for help while utilizing these products. Half of these people would avoid such problems using a complete fertilizer, not 3-6 bottles of bullshit. The other half probably are simply too stupid to grow a plant, following bad advice and thinking they can beat or speed up mother nature.
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i get it, you are an elitist? only someone with a horticulture and botany degree should grow mj? you lost your way brother. just cause someone doesn't have the time to become an expert doesn't mean they shouldn't have fun trying to grow their own. i'm not an expert in a lot of things, doesn't mean i shouldn't try them and have fun while doing it. even if i'm not doing it the most efficient way.

buying raw salts would be the most economical and logical choice for any grower. but some of us don't have the time or maybe we don't want to study the mixtures so we prefer to purchase synthetic nutes. guys into organics could say the same about anyone using nutrients period. they'll go on about teas and composts along the same line as these guys argue about nutrients.
 
beuffer420

beuffer420

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TonightYou said:
You raise a good point. However take a look at the whole crop of new growers using these shit products. Lacking even a basic understanding of plant biology, probably the first plant they've ever grown, buying into a false narrative brought on the behalf of slick marketing. I could literally post over a hundred links to people asking for help while utilizing these products. Half of these people would avoid such problems using a complete fertilizer, not 3-6 bottles of bullshit. The other half probably are simply too stupid to grow a plant, following bad advice and thinking they can beat or speed up mother nature.
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I totally feel ya bruv! At the same time though we cannot forget that there is noobs who are just starting to get some experience. We can't expect them to understand right away and get what we are talking about. I know it gets old fellas, but I feel if we approached with less "hostility" at times we could better help people keep there gardens greener. No one wants be told they bought shitty stuff but if we approached from a different angle I feel we could help them understand better and all of us can learn something out of the whole experience.

Our lifestyle of cannabis we live should be one of helping thy fellow gardener and helping them become more educated. more so than getting hostile and getting all our panties in a buch. Some of these people I've seen on here have the sandiest viginas I've ever seen.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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beuffer420 said:
Ub injecting jacks is prol no good for your body. I hope you use clean rigs lol. J/k
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My needles are sparkling clean, mate. I'm about to pull the trigger on a Dosatron for the greenhouse. Need another toy to play with. :)

i also wanted to point out that when I go this huge greenhouse facility around Mother's Day the whole green house is fed with jacks through injection system. You guys know how many immaculate flowers and vegetables you see when you go inside one of those places. I guess I'm trying to say cannabis is a plant just like any other it's requirements are that of a plant. It's isn't it's own category of special.
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There is a huge greenhouse op not far from me, must be 20 acres of greenhouses. They inject. Using the Polyon is easier for container gardening.

Yep, cannabis is a weed. It has no special needs. It took me years to finally stereotype where I think cannabis fits - it's nothing more than a tropical foliage plant, and all tropical foliage plants flower, so, I treat it as such by growing the most amount of foliage I can muster up going into flowering.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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ScoobyDoobyDoo said:
i get it, you are an elitist? only someone with a horticulture and botany degree should grow mj? you lost your way brother. just cause someone doesn't have the time to become an expert doesn't mean they shouldn't have fun trying to grow their own. i'm not an expert in a lot of things, doesn't mean i shouldn't try them and have fun while doing it. even if i'm not doing it the most efficient way.

buying raw salts would be the most economical and logical choice for any grower. but some of us don't have the time or maybe we don't want to study the mixtures so we prefer to purchase synthetic nutes. guys into organics could say the same about anyone using nutrients period. they'll go on about teas and composts along the same line as these guys argue about nutrients.
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I am by no means an expert, but I do know how to research. The more ive learned the more questions im prompted with. Yes Im an elitest asshole, but more so frustrated by people misleading others. I have no knocks against bulks, premixed salts, or organics. All can get you to the right place. As Ive said there are a million ways to skin a cat.

Really I want people to be avoid getting taken and then posting the same sad predictable problems which could easily be avoided with some basic education and quality starting material.

I dont need to rep a shit brand, glossing over people who probably have no understanding of plant biology. Calling shit "science" when it isnt. AN is over priced, incomplete and misleading people to believe they need 10 bottles of 90% water. I think of these threads as doing a public service announcement.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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homebrewer said:
Right, watered down plant food with feeding schedules designed to rape their customer's wallet. Capitalism is nice and all but buyer beware!
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And it's not near complete. Quite funny really but they know who their market is.

You couldn't give me Sensi. My plants deserve better. ;)
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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Double check what soil means, and what humus is.

just because it looks like dirt doesnt mean it is. Plus perlite, like humus INERT
 
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churchhaze

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You keep telling people they can use Jack's classic for hydroponics which while true, is very shitty advice. Just because it works in your soil grow (that you call hydroponic), doesn't mean it will work well for people actually using an inert media.

This is why Jbone keeps asking the seemingly meaningless questions. It's to force you into a path of reasoning where you figure out for yourself that you're wrong.
 
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churchhaze

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In case it seems like I'm taking sides personally, Jbone, looking at the percentages on DG bottles clearly show they're more concentrated than sensi A+B bottles.

DG clearly wins in value over sensi, but they're still both watered down and marked up.

Jbone77 said:
Dynagro is also a watered down salt that has a feed schedule that also rapes its customers genius
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TonightYou

TonightYou

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jbone is a rep. he's said so before early in his postings from when he joined in the fall.

Im using a soilless medium, meaning I provide what the plant needs. Not the soil, which is more similar to hydro than something like traditional soil.

Plus I have yet to see a single plant from any grow he seems to talk about
 
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churchhaze

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I don't care if he's a rep of AN. Jbone, can I get a job at AN? I promise to stop releasing all your secrets to the prisoners.
 
TonightYou

TonightYou

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because idiots have no understanding of soil science. Putting "this is a primary inert, broken down medium with a dash of bat shit and earthworm castings" isnt good for the uneducated consumer.
 
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churchhaze

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Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth: Good lord! According to the spetrolyzer, Spragel's secret ingredient was... water! Ordinary water!

Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth: Yes, ordinary water, laced with nothing more than a few spoonfuls of LSD.



TonightYou said:
because idiots have no understanding of soil science. Putting "this is a primary inert, broken down medium with a dash of bat shit and earthworm castings" isnt good for the uneducated consumer.
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ScoobyDoobyDoo

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TonightYou said:
I am by no means an expert, but I do know how to research. The more ive learned the more questions im prompted with. Yes Im an elitest asshole, but more so frustrated by people misleading others. I have no knocks against bulks, premixed salts, or organics. All can get you to the right place. As Ive said there are a million ways to skin a cat.

Really I want people to be avoid getting taken and then posting the same sad predictable problems which could easily be avoided with some basic education and quality starting material.

I dont need to rep a shit brand, glossing over people who probably have no understanding of plant biology. Calling shit "science" when it isnt. AN is over priced, incomplete and misleading people to believe they need 10 bottles of 90% water. I think of these threads as doing a public service announcement.
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i don't understand your view cause all you have to do is go to any hydro website and look at all the additives every company offers. some of them have just as many as AN and they are more expensive. Go to the grinners.com website and check out all the different nutrient companies and the price. Calling out AN for doing the same as everyone else makes no sense to me. if i had the time i would mix my own salts. i just choose to spend that time doing other things. can't do everything...gotta pick your battles. as far as calling it overpriced it makes me think you don't read the previous posts or research the actual prices. go online and check the prices of each for a gallon. check the other companies too. AN falls right in the middle. if someone burnt their plants with AN then that's their fault cause plenty of growers on this site and out there in the world grow quality buds with AN.

almost every nute company has multiple additives. house and garden has a TON and they are expensive as shit. you aren't supposed to use them all. any grower with common sense knows that. they are designed to allow you to pick and choose the specific ones that work in your room. you won't see these guys on a H&G or Botanicare thread bashing their product. they use the same lame old lines about price and watered down incomplete nutes on every AN thread. they keep getting proven wrong and they just keep repeating the same thing. it makes no sense to me. i grow dank ass buds with AN and they were a lot better than the buds i grew with other products. if house and garden or dyna turns out to be better for me then i will switch. but after 10 years growing seriously the best nutes i've seen are AN.
 
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Jbone77

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TonightYou said:
because idiots have no understanding of soil science. Putting "this is a primary inert, broken down medium with a dash of bat shit and earthworm castings" isnt good for the uneducated consumer.
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Nowhere in the bag of lightwarrior does it say its soil, infact it says its just a potting mix and needs to be fed within 5 days genius
 
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