MellowFarmer
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how does one change identies these days and how much? inquiring minds 
New Identity Please
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Geronimo420
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For men eat at McClown for 2-3 month & grow a goaty everybody will recognize you as Chummlee from Pawn Star, For Lady's wear a Burka
MellowFarmer
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ok how do i get a fake id? or rather where do I get new papers? I decided the other day after I remarked off hand that I do not happen to live in a paper please state that I need new papers because there are freakin Paper Please States!hair of the dog
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It's much harder than it used to be. I only know a few people who have done it, and the only one I knew well enough to learn some details did it a long, long time ago. Pre common internet (IIRC late '70s). She had an abusive husband and was able to get some help. I don't know if what she did still works, so i won't blab it on a forum, that may be spreading bad advice or ruining a good thing.
Depending whay you want to do it, there are usually better options. Getting a new identity sucks, because the new identity doesn't have a history. Having no history raises questions, makes people suspicous. Suspicion torpedoes your quest for the new life. Then there you are, worse off than before. Lost the advantages of the new ID and lost the advantages of the one you have.
You can create thin identities and use them a little, but even that doesn't go as far as it used to. Years back, if you had a wallet full of business cards in a second name, that would get you through any non LE encounters and you could even set up a checking account without ID up into the '80s.
I don't know or care why you want a new ID, but put serious thought into why you do and what other path may meet those needs.
Most people who think they want or need a new ID don't need one. Chances are, if you have a bad reputaion and some bad dealings you want to put behind you, all you need to do is split where you are and go low profile in your new location. Two cases in point. One, my own. In the late '80s I moved an hour away from where I had been. Out of a small city. Nothing nefarious, just moved and didn;t tell most of the assholes I had known where I was going because....they were assholes. A year later I ran into a guy I had known at a gas station. He said the rumor was that I had been killed or was in jail. I asked "Why?" He didn't know. Just people's imaginations when I stopped hanging around. Second was a guy I knew who was stabbed outside a bar, last seen strapped to a gurney in Oregon. Rumor was he was dead. 25 years later, I ran into him in Florida. He said that when he was in the hospital he realised that the people he was hanging around with were not his friends, so when he got better he just left. Point is, if you leave where you are and don't give anybody reason to look for you, no one will find you.
If you owe debts, pay them. If you have relationships you want to walk away from, tell them you want out. Then go away. If the FBI is after you, no 'new ID' crap will keep them from finding you. If you just want to walk away from people who aren't your friends, walk away from them.
Depending whay you want to do it, there are usually better options. Getting a new identity sucks, because the new identity doesn't have a history. Having no history raises questions, makes people suspicous. Suspicion torpedoes your quest for the new life. Then there you are, worse off than before. Lost the advantages of the new ID and lost the advantages of the one you have.
You can create thin identities and use them a little, but even that doesn't go as far as it used to. Years back, if you had a wallet full of business cards in a second name, that would get you through any non LE encounters and you could even set up a checking account without ID up into the '80s.
I don't know or care why you want a new ID, but put serious thought into why you do and what other path may meet those needs.
Most people who think they want or need a new ID don't need one. Chances are, if you have a bad reputaion and some bad dealings you want to put behind you, all you need to do is split where you are and go low profile in your new location. Two cases in point. One, my own. In the late '80s I moved an hour away from where I had been. Out of a small city. Nothing nefarious, just moved and didn;t tell most of the assholes I had known where I was going because....they were assholes. A year later I ran into a guy I had known at a gas station. He said the rumor was that I had been killed or was in jail. I asked "Why?" He didn't know. Just people's imaginations when I stopped hanging around. Second was a guy I knew who was stabbed outside a bar, last seen strapped to a gurney in Oregon. Rumor was he was dead. 25 years later, I ran into him in Florida. He said that when he was in the hospital he realised that the people he was hanging around with were not his friends, so when he got better he just left. Point is, if you leave where you are and don't give anybody reason to look for you, no one will find you.
If you owe debts, pay them. If you have relationships you want to walk away from, tell them you want out. Then go away. If the FBI is after you, no 'new ID' crap will keep them from finding you. If you just want to walk away from people who aren't your friends, walk away from them.
MellowFarmer
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your well intentioned advice is great advice just not in my case. so if a female fitting my description passed away without them being informed her papers have her history or an identity can be easily stolen but too much risk imo so ? how do i do that?
MellowFarmer
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my reasons are really are not a big secret -we now live in a country with states that have paper please laws. I don't want Them to have any easy ammo when my papers are demanded .
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Which states have these, and what form do they take?
(Or, you could keep a pack of Zig Zags in your pocket for the day you hear the question ... ) cn
Geronimo420
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You could kidnap & eliminate someone that look like you and then use it's ID of course it involve some nasty business
Hydrotech364
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Saw a guy online the other day, Texas License, birth certificate and social security number plus passport.$5000.00 They are out there if you know where to look.
scroglodyte
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those glasses with the fake nose and mustache
Total Head
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are you asking how to steal a dead chick's identity?
Jasonian069
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Shit, Barack Obama's your case study. Find out how a guy born in Kenya has a fake ass birth certificate from Hawaii, a social security number from Connecticut and still managed to land the most powerful job in the world.
Hydrotech364
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You dont, a death certificate has been filed and within a month or two all of her shit will be closed and flagged if it shows back up.May work for a week or so.
MellowFarmer
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+rep uh where did the rep button go now guys? or is it my dumbphone ?become a hotdog and blend with society
MellowFarmer
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actually I have some snitches in mind that no 1 will shed a tear but it is messy hmmm
MellowFarmer
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god damn it you birthers don't make any sense! if all that is true it was done by the Owners of this country the fucking puppet masters who control all the puppets in order to put their puppet into that powerful office do you think some chick from Kansas pulled it off with some dude from africa all by themselves then damn maybe They should have gotten that poweful position and fixed this place !
