New world order

nongreenthumb

nongreenthumb

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I don't get politics at all, its like 60 million people or however many vote in what would basically be a team of a few hundred maybe 1000. We choose these people to go in by electing for them or by not bothering to vote at all.

Then we come out bitching saying how unhappy we are about things. Oh I hate that this has happened or what the fuck is this tax hike for.

Thing is people we are the masses we rule in numbers and we let these few in comparison determine our lives and when we don't like it we bitch about it on a forum somewhere. Some people decide to stand up for the rights and stage protests but does this achieve the desired results did the protest at the war in iraq stop us from going.

The people in general feel that nothing can be done that if government says something thats it, thats the way it is. Why let 300 people who are currupt by power and money decide the fate of the less fortunate.

People do have the power to change things its just finding the way to go about it. If the many combine and work together you can control the government instead of the other way around.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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I'm all for that my man. Lay out a plan so we can get started. The problem is that only about one out of a hundred gives a shit. the other 99 are so wrapped up in their own little world that they just prefer to bitch.
 
nongreenthumb

nongreenthumb

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Well 27 views and 1 reply, thats kinda disappointing.

What this shows is that you guys don't really give a fuck about what you have to put up with, you obviously enjoy the bitching about whats wrong with the world. It's not crazy difficult to get this thing started.

If one person decides You know what I don't want to pay an extra 2 bucks a gallon for gas and he goes and get his buddy who also doesn't want to pay 2 bucks a gallon extra for gas, and then both of those two talk to all of their friends. It may seem like it would be impossible to get started but if one guy started it and told everybody and then they in turn told everyone they knew then eventually everyone in the world would be onside.

My point is this that unless you make this change then really you must love things going wrong and then having something to bitch about otherwise you would be man enough to do something about it.
 
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fdd2blk

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nongreenthumb said:
Well 27 views and 1 reply, thats kinda disappointing.

What this shows is that you guys don't really give a fuck about what you have to put up with, you obviously enjoy the bitching about whats wrong with the world. It's not crazy difficult to get this thing started.

If one person decides You know what I don't want to pay an extra 2 bucks a gallon for gas and he goes and get his buddy who also doesn't want to pay 2 bucks a gallon extra for gas, and then both of those two talk to all of their friends. It may seem like it would be impossible to get started but if one guy started it and told everybody and then they in turn told everyone they knew then eventually everyone in the world would be onside.

My point is this that unless you make this change then really you must love things going wrong and then having something to bitch about otherwise you would be man enough to do something about it.
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i haven't driven my truck in a week. i was going thru about 50 gallons a week.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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I didn't respond because I think you are incorrect. Why didn't the amnesty bill go through?

Now then, if only 40% of the people would stop filing income tax returns, we might get somewhere.

Vi
 
nongreenthumb

nongreenthumb

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I don't have a clue about the amnesty bill to be honest. I don't see how what I said is incorrect. I firmly believe that if you want something enough you can make it happen, going through whatever channels you have to
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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Well, Congress and the President wanted to give amnisty to 12 million illegal aliens who now reside ILLEGALLY in this country. There was such an outrage from the citizenry over the bill, that it got dropped. The people rose up, and the bill went down to defeat.

So, in one respect you are correct by saying that if the people want something bad enough, they can make it happen. But the gist of your first post was that the people never rise up.

Again ... if 40% would just stop filing income tax returns, our slave tax system would become a thing of the past.

Nice seeing you post here in the forum, nongreenthumb. :)

Vi
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
Well, Congress and the President wanted to give amnisty to 12 million illegal aliens who now reside ILLEGALLY in this country. There was such an outrage from the citizenry over the bill, that it got dropped. The people rose up, and the bill went down to defeat.

So, in one respect you are correct by saying that if the people want something bad enough, they can make it happen. But the gist of your first post was that the people never rise up.

Again ... if 40% would just stop filing income tax returns, our slave tax system would become a thing of the past.

Nice seeing you post here in the forum, nongreenthumb. :)

Vi
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Vi, you have my permission to stop filing your taxes. Put up or shut up.
 
TheConstantGardner

TheConstantGardner

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Resistance is futile.

This phrase rings in my brain every time a rebellious thought flutters through. I considered moving to another country, but that is essentially pointless as we'll be under a one world government in about 20 years. The foundation is being laid right now.

To those of you speaking of stopping your tax returns, when was the last time you filed one? Try living without a checking account, savings account, or a line of credit. You better be pretty well off before you attempt this. You also better be self employed as most employers are going to withhold taxes, file 941's, submit W2's or 1099's depending on your employment/contract status.

If you think a law is unconstitutional, break it! Most of us here are doing so already. To conform is to accept. Things are going to get bad; really bad. People will wake up. Hopefully in time to stop those in power. Most likely not. Look at where we are today.
 
mexiblunt

mexiblunt

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cars been parked for 3 years. My buddy is currently producing his own bio-deisel in his backyard. used cooking oil from local resturants. Just our 2 cents.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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mexiblunt said:
cars been parked for 3 years. My buddy is currently producing his own bio-deisel in his backyard. used cooking oil from local resturants. Just our 2 cents.
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I use my truck about 200 miles a month + vacations, I figure I spend 100.00 a month on petrol, average. I just went on a 1500 mile vacation around the 4th of July to the 10th and averaged 17.6 MPG, that was 85 gallons @ 3.00 a gallon or 255.00, I didn't need to fill up again untill the 29th of august, and that was 54.00, but averaged for the year it's still about 100.00 a mo. If I had to commute like a lot of people, I'd have to trade my truck for a gas miser. I was even lucky when I worked, I lived less than 7 miles from work, drove into the west in the morning and the east in the afternoon. If you live in the desert, you'd know that is bitchin. No sun in the eyes.
 
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