Newbie Needs Help! Pics this time!

Hello,
I am new here and posted previously, but with no pics. this is my 2nd grow. My plants are 19 days into veg under 2 600 watt MH in a 4x8 tent. The pic is from day before yesterday, and they have gained a few inches. They are 22 to 25 inches tall. Some were "tops" as clones and some are christmas tree type now.

I FIM'd my first grow at about this time and flipped bout a week later, same set up. Final plants were bout 26 inches and yielded 1.5 to 2 oz each.

My questions:

1. Should I FIM again, and if so give them another week of veg...might run out of room!

2. I trimmed the bottom third of the plants to focus energy upwards kinfa late in the game last time. When is it best to do that?

3. Should I not fim, just veg another week and flip them? Flip now??

4. First pics are of plants now. The rest of the pics are results of last grow.

5. Thanks, anyone that can reach out to me is a friend indeed!

And yet a few more pics of the first grow:

jungle.................

wayno30 said:

jungle.................

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Ya, I know...you say it likes thats a bad thing...and it may be. Should I FIM and flip? Can I PM you a few questions...anyone?? Pretty please?

u wouldnt like my opinion

wayno30 said:

u wouldnt like my opinion

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Does that mean you are here to slam new people, you're just a plain miserable person, or my situation is completely beyond help? I dont think Im doing that bad am I? Geez

they look ok

actually really good..... day 19

look happy

wayno30 said:

look happy

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Thanks man, would you FIM and flip within a week considering thier are 15 of them in a 4x8 tent and already 24 inches tall?

I FIM'd last time and got really nice buds (I included pics), but only 1.5 to 2 oz's each plant.

Now I wonder if Vegging longer without limiting upward growth by FIM' will net bigger yield?

I feel you have sacrificed a baby goat over your pc. Now we can do some learning. I would wait til they hit 30 inches then fim and flip. Grow on my son. P.s. Nice grow.

if i gotta get the scissors out i just cut the whole top ...im very lazy

If you FIM them it looks like they may get wider which is going to make for a pain in the ass when you try and get in there to water them. Just experiment...Either way they look good and you're going to get some bud.

how high can u go?

wayno30 said:

how high can u go?

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I have a 7 foot tall tent. Two 600 watt eurohoods hanging above. So, accounting for the hoods and the fact they are two feet tall now, I probably have another 2 feet I would say safely. Thabnks man!

haloman420 said:

I feel you have sacrificed a baby goat over your pc. Now we can do some learning. I would wait til they hit 30 inches then fim and flip. Grow on my son. P.s. Nice grow.

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I scrificed something allright, quite a mess!

Sounds feasible, I have 7 foot tall tent with two 600 watt Eurohoods hanging. Should I not allow for additional veg time after FIM? I mean you can make your cuts, then immediately flip? Thought you need time for additional sites to grow?? Thanks for the reply and compliments man!!!

ekho5lima said:

If you FIM them it looks like they may get wider which is going to make for a pain in the ass when you try and get in there to water them. Just experiment...Either way they look good and you're going to get some bud.

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Thanks man, I usually take three out at a time into another room to hand feed/water....yer right never was enough room in there. Thanks for compliment..got some warm fuzzies now, and thats what its all about!

I agree on no more fimming....these plants are bushing out and pretty soon the canopy will block all light. Personally - I would remove all those branches and growth on the bottom 1/3rd now and flip them in one week....no more topping or fimming or anything...you need to encourage vertical growth not lateral bushiness.

YO

RuchaYolanda said:

I agree on no more fimming....these plants are bushing out and pretty soon the canopy will block all light. Personally - I would remove all those branches and growth on the bottom 1/3rd now and flip them in one week....no more topping or fimming or anything...you need to encourage vertical growth not lateral bushiness.

YO

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Sounds logical also, I have room to grow upwards but not sideways, just dont want those long skinny single top colas...is that what I would get?? On that note, do you think the fact that there were 15 24 inch tall bushy plants crammed in a 4x8 the reason I only got 1.5 to 2 oz's each?

I thought the idea was to have a nice bushy canopy up top ( light only pentrates downward bout 18 inches), And have as many bud sites as possible horizontally, with no growth on the bottom third (to encourage growth at the top canopy). the lights are on top, so vertical growth would be wasted if no lights on the side?? But you are saying, the longer the stalk, the more potential nodes, and to keep some distance between plants if possible?

Consensus anyone?