~Newsflash~ there is NO such thing as Cannabis getting "rootbound"

tyke1973

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What a load of shit you are talking and any body that takes anything on board that you are saying is has stupid has you.The more the root system can grow the bigger the yeild but i'm sure that you know more than the greenhouse team and the other growers in dam you are a prat if you think that cannabis can not become rootbound all plants will out grow there pots at some time if grown right.That is not to say that you can't grow a plant all the way through the vegging/flowering in the same small pot.But the yeild will be no where has good has if the plant had been given the room for the roots to spead.The only way a plant will produce a big yeild is if it is grown in a rock wool cube in a hydrophonic system other than a tub that will give the roots plenty of room to grow.
 

OGDanimal

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No root bound huh? Take a look at these!

11 weeks veg, moved from plastic cup, to 1 gallon, then to 3 gallon 2 weeks before 12/12

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Is this Root bound?
 

cameron666

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i agree, to a certain point, there are limits to the size of pot being used, like.... you couldn't grow a full plant in a shot glass and keep giving it what it needs.. thats really just too small, but you could use a small container and give the plant what it needs, i reckon aslong as it can hold itself up in the medium, itll grow, maybe slower but it will grow
 

Werry420

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the only thing a " ROOTBOUND" plant will do is streatch for the light faster, you can grow a 7 foot monster in a #1 size flower pot which is not even a galon pot,, not saying you would wanna flower in that after lol,, but it can be done!!
 

Jefferstone

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I could be wrong but at some point you aren't going to be able to support a huge canopy unless you have the root substructure to feed it. Yes you can grow tall plants in a small container, but you need to water constantly to keep the water and nutes moving.
 

wyteboi

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No root bound huh? Take a look at these!

11 weeks veg, moved from plastic cup, to 1 gallon, then to 3 gallon 2 weeks before 12/12

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Is this Root bound?
i know this is very old , but no one answered the question.
No that is not rootbound at all. those are healthy roots , ready for some food. technically there is no such thing as root bound. the roots need more food when the soil is out and it dont matter how you give it to um. (new soil or plant food)





soil :bigjoint:
 

wyteboi

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root "size" has nothing at all to do with the plant size or how it grows. most have seemed to skip the picture showing a pound an a half off a 2 or 3 gallon pot. or the 1.5 oz's off dixie cups.
roots need food water an air and thats it. size doesnt matter.



soil :eyesmoke:
 

growitsfun

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lol... you're silly.

i never see anyone mentioning "rootbound" here.
Shit is real to an extent we transplanted so plants that we purposely didn't loosen the roots on and threw it into a 5....that plant hasn't been watered in 5 days still heavy...removed it from its container and pulled out a perfect 1 gallon root all I put in 3 weeks prior
 

Grower202085

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Lol cannabis plants can't get rootbound? Hahahahahaha are they some kind of super plant that defies all reason and logic ? Hahaha don't listen to these idiots claiming cannabis can't get rootbound. Of course it can get rootbound you idiots lol especially if you are growing in smaller containers/pots and the roots have maxed out the pot before flowering begins . Rootboumd cannabis can show become deficient and choked out . There is much information from professional commercial growers online regarding the slowed growth, stunted flowering and deficiencies caused by rootbound cannabis. Don't listen to these one trick wonders. Listen to the pros
 

Grower202085

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Shit is real to an extent we transplanted so plants that we purposely didn't loosen the roots on and threw it into a 5....that plant hasn't been watered in 5 days still heavy...removed it from its container and pulled out a perfect 1 gallon root all I put in 3 weeks prior
You overwatered the pots that's why the roots didn't grow dude . Logic .......Logic
 

Grower202085

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Resurrected from the deado_O, 13 years old…

& plants definitely can get rootbound‼
Most definitely .
And yes I thought I would comment so that new growers reading old threads aren't misinformed by these idiots and end up with deficient choked out plants that don't flower right, have deficiencies and end up chasing their tales trying to correct issues that won't get any better until they repot .
Roots will basically end up eating the medium until there is nothing left to draw nutrients and water from.
People claiming they grow trees in 16 oz plastic cups is just one of the funniest comment I've ever heard in my entire life. It's comical lol
 
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quazyqual

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Most definitely .
And yes I thought I would comment so that new growers reading old threads aren't misinformed by these idiots and end up with deficient choked out plants that don't flower right, have deficiencies and end up chasing their tales trying to correct issues that won't get any better until they repot .
Roots will basically end up eating the medium until there is nothing left to draw nutrients and water from.
People claiming they grow trees in 16 oz plastic cups is just one of the funniest comment I've ever heard in my entire life. It's comical lol
I'm pretty sure that post was sarcastic.
 

Grower202085

Active Member
root "size" has nothing at all to do with the plant size or how it grows. most have seemed to skip the picture showing a pound an a half off a 2 or 3 gallon pot. or the 1.5 oz's off dixie cups.
roots need food water an air and thats it. size doesnt matter.



soil :eyesmoke:
That's the biggest load of shit I've ever heard hahaha
 

GangaDownUnder

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The problem is that its not a black or white thing. As with most things in life, it resides in they grey zone. Its probably true in most instances, but there's definitely scenarios where its not true. Therefore being rootbound does exist.

"Leaving the plant in that same small container and increasing the amount of nutrients that you feed it @ that time should be perfectly fine for that plant to be ok"

Thats way too broad of a statement to be true or false really. Its a bit of a nothingburger.

"Roots do not need to keep growing the whole time a plant is alive in order for it to live happily and grow. The only thing that is needed for a plant to live happily is all its conditions being met".

Yep, thats mostly true. But it is kind of besides the point...so its another nothing point.

How small of a container? 500mL? 5L? 20L? It matters. I agree, as per your second point above, that a plant will live happily even if its roots arent expanding. So, going by that theory, I can easily grow a 3m tall monster in a 500mL pot then. Right? No, obviously. Yes. It'll LIVE happily in a 500mL pot, but will it GROW...to 3m tall? No. Because it'll be root bound.

I mean, the roots can only absorb so much nutrients at a given maximum rate. The roots ability to absorb isn't infinite. There's obviously going to be a point where the required nutrient uptake to sustain the above ground size overtakes the roots ability to absorb nutrients given a restricted root area...and the plant will stop growing...it will merely sustain. Its still living happily, but it isnt growing any more. The size of the container will determine what that level is.

Just saying "small container" is pointless. And if you then say something like "well, you know what I mean...something reasonable sized like what most people use", well, thats irrelevant and actually disproves the original point you were trying to make...which was a sweeping black and white statement saying being rootbound doesnt exist. The condition doesn't exist only if you exclude the scenarios where it does exist.

And just increasing the nutrient load isnt necessarily possible either. Nutrients are chemicals, whether natural or artificial, so there must also be a point where you csnt go above a certain strength or else it will "burn" the delicate roots. I dont know what that level is, but I feel like a rootball the size of my fist cant support a 3m tall monster.

Not to mention the fact that a 3m tall plant in a 500mL pot would need to be watered almost constantly. So there's that to consider too. If you can only be there to water the plant at certain intervals, like in the morning before or afternoon after work, then a small pot may dry out too quickly. Again, it'll live, but its growth is going to be impacted by the dry spells where its not getting the water that it wants. Even if you dont go with such an extreme example of a 3m plant in a 500mL pot, a plant could essentially become "situationally rootbound", if you see what I'm getting at...?

Like, if the container is big enough to supply the required nutrients, but not big enough to store enough water to get by between waterings then the plant will be stunted. Plus water helps the roots access nutrients. Its not rootbound in the traditional sense but I would still classify that as being rootbound. If it was potted up, the accessible water reserves for the roots would be increased even if the roots dont expand, which would thus allow adequate water reserves to get through dry spells, and being moist for longer would increase access to the adequate supply of nutrients in the soil. Result: Increasing the pot size has helped the plant and allowed it to resume growing, and in a round about way has incresed the access to nutrients even if the roots havent expanded.

I mean, just look at the whole art of bonsai. You can keep large trees small by limiting root space, and periodically trimming the roots. Yes, they do other things like training and pruning. But they are more after the fact things and contribute less to the size of the plant and more to the form. The massively restricted roots are what keeps them small. "Keeps" being the word to note. They are happily living, yes, but they keep at a small size...they dont grow much, to the point that minimal pruning can keep a tree at 2ft that should be 150ft tall.
 

goofy81

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There are too many variables.
Here's my 7 gallon pots with 5 weeks veg from clone.
I used to use 12 gallon pots but a member on here, kwigyboy i think it was pointed me in the right direction.
While I can get 12 gallon pots to look like this too, it does take about 7 weeks. Having it full of roots like this gives you a lot more control of your medium and what exactly your plants are uptaking. I prefer to be watering my roots not my coco and having a full root system lets me feed my roots 6-20 times during lights on if i wanted.
While not rootbound, these pots are full AF.
The question is would i be able to get as many roots in a 3gal? definitely not.
Is having more roots beneficial? I don't really know,
My single plants are 4-5ft wide, def doable in smaller pots, but will they take longer? maybe?

That pic posted by fdd2blk earlier looks fantastic and shows the potential of smaller pots.
The question you should all be asking really is .. IF another was planted in a pot double that size, with all else being equal would there be a bigger plant?

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