No internal clock

New Age United

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So there is definitely no internal clock in Cannabis it all goes by that chemical that is released during dark(if someone could tell me what chemical that is it would be appreciated), I've grown many many plants with a different schedule light period every night not on purpose just bc I'm too lazy to set a timer, sometimes for weeks, and have never had a hermie, as long as you give em 8 hrs dark they will veg and as long as you give em 10 hrs dark they will flower, 9 hrs seems to be the fine line.
 
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madra

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You edited it, that makes much more sense! Thought I was loosing it, or you had.
I only give 6 hrs dark in veg, does that mean they're not actually vegging? :eyesmoke:
 

Renfro

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So what if they get 12 hours of dark and 24 hours of light? Does the dark period build up this chemical and light takes it down?
 

PadawanWarrior

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Found this on another site. I guess it's a hormone called florigen. And I remember it had to build up to a certain level each night to trigger flowering, and that light interruptions lower or destroy all the hormones built up, I don't remember exactly but it's something like that.

Flowering Night Cycle

Definition - What does Flowering Night Cycle mean?
In cannabis cultivation, the flowering night cycle refers to the amount of darkness a plant receives. The flowering night cycle is an extremely important aspect of marijuana plant cultivation.

During the vegetative stage growers try to mimic the daylight hours and the night cycle of late summer to encourage flowering. Many set their grow lights to an 18 hour light cycle to encourage rapid and strong growth. Some growers even expose their plants to full light 24 hours per day for vegetative stages.

After plant growth is obtained, the plant is then exposed to shorter periods of light and longer periods of darkness to spur bud production and flowers. This is the flowering night cycle, and it is when the sought-after buds are produced. For flowering, the light cycle is reduced to a 12/12 cycle (12 hours of daylight, 12 hours of darkness) to mimic fall light patterns, where the days are shorter.



MaximumYield explains Flowering Night Cycle
The uninterrupted periods of darkness during the flowering night cycle are essentially instructing the plant on what to do in terms of bud production.

A plant's flowering is spurred by a flowering night cycle known as photoperiodism. The cannabis plant is considered a short-day plant because it requires an adequate flowering night cycle to produce buds and flowers. In its natural environment, the cannabis plant flowers at the end of summer when the nights grow longer.

The marijuana plant’s circadian rhythm is spurred by a hormone called florigen, which is released when the plant is exposed to longer nights. The hormone of the plant makes it exceptionally sensitive to the light/dark cycle. Uninterrupted periods of darkness trigger the hormone’s release.

To achieve optimal cannabis yields and induce flowering, the plant’s night flowering cycle should never be disturbed and no light should inadvertently leak into the grow room during the darkness hours.

This definition was written in the context of Cannabis
 
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LinguaPeel

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Turning Cannabis day-neutral will be one of the first gmo successes. Ruderalis already got us warmed up to that.

I bet the hydro stores sell bottled floragen snake oils. They sell terpenes and jazzy juice why not i guess.
 

New Age United

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Found this on another site. I guess it's a hormone called florigen. And I remember it had to build up to a certain level each night to trigger flowering, and that light interruptions lower or destroy all the hormones built up, I don't remember exactly but it's something like that.

Flowering Night Cycle

Definition - What does Flowering Night Cycle mean?
In cannabis cultivation, the flowering night cycle refers to the amount of darkness a plant receives. The flowering night cycle is an extremely important aspect of marijuana plant cultivation.

During the vegetative stage growers try to mimic the daylight hours and the night cycle of late summer to encourage flowering. Many set their grow lights to an 18 hour light cycle to encourage rapid and strong growth. Some growers even expose their plants to full light 24 hours per day for vegetative stages.

After plant growth is obtained, the plant is then exposed to shorter periods of light and longer periods of darkness to spur bud production and flowers. This is the flowering night cycle, and it is when the sought-after buds are produced. For flowering, the light cycle is reduced to a 12/12 cycle (12 hours of daylight, 12 hours of darkness) to mimic fall light patterns, where the days are shorter.



MaximumYield explains Flowering Night Cycle
The uninterrupted periods of darkness during the flowering night cycle are essentially instructing the plant on what to do in terms of bud production.

A plant's flowering is spurred by a flowering night cycle known as photoperiodism. The cannabis plant is considered a short-day plant because it requires an adequate flowering night cycle to produce buds and flowers. In its natural environment, the cannabis plant flowers at the end of summer when the nights grow longer.

The marijuana plant’s circadian rhythm is spurred by a hormone called florigen, which is released when the plant is exposed to longer nights. The hormone of the plant makes it exceptionally sensitive to the light/dark cycle. Uninterrupted periods of darkness trigger the hormone’s release.

To achieve optimal cannabis yields and induce flowering, the plant’s night flowering cycle should never be disturbed and no light should inadvertently leak into the grow room during the darkness hours.

This definition was written in the context of Cannabis
Thank you
 

New Age United

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So what if they get 12 hours of dark and 24 hours of light? Does the dark period build up this chemical and light takes it down?
Good point Renfro, surely someone has tried this and we would have heard of it bc if you could give them 24hrs light and 12hrs darkness and still maintain flowering you would be able to greatly increase yield, so yes to a certain point the light would cause a reveg do to the diminishment of florigen.
 

New Age United

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You edited it, that makes much more sense! Thought I was loosing it, or you had.
I only give 6 hrs dark in veg, does that mean they're not actually vegging? :eyesmoke:
No anything under 8 hrs of darkness for veg and anything over 10 hrs for flower, guess I should've been more specific.
 

DaFreak

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There were some old High Times articles about various light cycles from about 20 years ago. People have played with it and I'm guessing it was a stupid idea so it never caught on.
 

New Age United

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There were some old High Times articles about various light cycles from about 20 years ago. People have played with it and I'm guessing it was a stupid idea so it never caught on.
Not a stupid idea really it would of been great if it were effective but obviously it wasn't found to be so.
 

DaFreak

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So how can you buy lazy enough to not set a timer but ambitious enough to turn the lights on and off every 12 hours or so? Timers are for lazy people.
 

New Age United

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So how can you buy lazy enough to not set a timer but ambitious enough to turn the lights on and off every 12 hours or so? Timers are for lazy people.
Schizophrenia I always end up doing things the hard way cuz I'm too lethargic to take the initiative to do things the easy way, the easy way is always more work at first but much less work in the long run.
 
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