Northern Lights X BB auto & Speed Devil auto

Yea sure thing man, you gonna make a journal? I haven't really done any research for outdoors, but it can't be harder than managing an indoor grow.

Indoor is easy compared to outdoor....when you factor in the sun, which can be potent as hell depending where you live, and also bugs. I had tried to throw some plants outside when I first moved to where I live now...they were dead within hours lol. I'm sure there's a way I could have grown them here, but they definitely needed to be in shade and maybe I put them out to young...but damn, hours??? Crazy! Then I was scared to touch them because this crazy looking spider decided to use them as part of it's web lol. I'm super scared of spiders...especially ones that can jump.

Cloudz2600 said:

Yea sure thing man, you gonna make a journal? I haven't really done any research for outdoors, but it can't be harder than managing an indoor grow.

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yea man ill probably start a journal when they are about 2 weeks old

Yea I don't mess with spiders either lol. The basil and mint I'm growing took pretty well to the outside. The mint just blew up after it got done adjusting to the heat. I like growing indoors more though, bugs being the main reason.

Added a 26w in the middle of the bin. It's about 1 1/2 inches from both pots. Puts me at 178w total. Quick question about adding nutrients. I have Jack's Classic Blossom Booster and I need to water the plant tomorrow. Since I transplanted about a week ago I'm guessing the soil still has some nutrients in it. Fox Farm says the soil has sufficient nutrients for the first 3 weeks. Should I just keep using plain water or would it be beneficial to add 1/2 strength(1/8 tsp) fertilizer to the water. Obviously I'm a bit afraid of burning the plants again.

I would use plain water. It is better to wait a week and start to notice the faint tinges of a potential N deficiency than to nute burn! Are you open to trying something a little different? Maybe you are willing to add liquid fish fertilizer to your waterings. I've been doing a watering cycle of fox farm watering x fish ferts watering x reg water watering, repeat. Fish ferts won't burn your plant and does tons of different beneficial things for your plant that significantly help it grow, including ample amount of nitrogen. Mixed with seaweed is even better. Just ordered a bottle from advanced nutrients through amazon, was like $10.

Oh I just want to use the fertilizer I bought. I've been using it for my other plants though. I had bought it when I planned to grow normal cannabis instead of autoflowers. I would of had time to let the nutrients in the soil be used up then. I'll check out the fish fert. $10 sounds good for an experiment, got a link?

Yo wat up cloudz I'm actually currently growing a nlxbb auto and wow I'm surprised on how dank it is, check it on my signature. Keep up the good work homie!

http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Neptunes-Harvest-Seaweed-Fertilizer/dp/B0012PWRTO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1338693803&sr=8-2

Just started getting into looking at all the different things that you can add besides "nutes" that benefit your plant. Ordered this Liquid Karma stuff, here is the description: Liquid Karma™ 0.1-0.1-0.5 represents a significant break through in plant nu tri tion. This is be cause it contains a full complement of metabolically active organic compounds not found in regular plant foods or supplements. These unique compounds are absorbed immediately and act as regulatory signals, activators or catalysts to produce synchronized and accelerated growth under all conditions. Liquid Karma™ functions as a growth engine because its high metabolic activity produces a large amount of energy, which is immediately transformed to growth. It contains fermented compost, Amino Acids, vitamins, plant extracts, Humic Acid, Seaweed Extract and carbohy-drates.
You just add it to the nutes you already feed with. Heard it can increase production / yield up to 30%. Going to test it out and for myself

$7 shipping. These people are crazy charging 80% of the cost of the item for shipping. I never understood that. I wish amazon prime worked with all vendors. I think I'll try that, may look around for a cheaper price though.

Any thoughts about running a surge protector through a surge protector? Like I said before I have 2 light bulb socket to outlet adaptors and I want more lighting. I could tape the protector to one of the walls of the bin and run 2 26w bulbs on it for side lighting. Just not sure how well that's going to work electricity wise. It's a 15 amp circuit so I'm not going over that(I think), but I've no idea about running so much from 1 wall outlet.

EDIT: Actually I could run the lights 24/7 and just plug the surge protector into the the wall directly. It's a 2 socket outlet and right now I just have the timer and the power supply for the PC fans plugged in. The fans run 24/7 anyway. I tell other people 20/4 is best for autoflowers though lol.

foreverflyhi said:

Yo wat up cloudz I'm actually currently growing a nlxbb auto and wow I'm surprised on how dank it is, check it on my signature. Keep up the good work homie!

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Dude that looks fuckin awesome. So many colors!

Update: The extension cord had 3 outlets, 2 on one side and 1 on another. Don't know why I didn't think of this earlier, but I just put another light bulb on the opposite side. Now I've got 4 lights hitting the tops of the plants and 2 lights hitting the bottom/middle. That puts me at 195w and around 13,000 lumens(per square feet right?)! I don't think I'll add any more lights except for when/if my Feit replacement bulb comes in; although if they send me the exact same bulb it's going to be a 6500k, which I won't be needing during flowering, already using 2.

Gonna start my LST today too. This will be my first time LSTing. When I messed around with the male bagseed all I did was top, FIM and super crop. Any tips? It seems pretty simple. I'll be using pipe cleaners. I'll take pictures of everything when I go water the girls today.

Not sure about this weather lol. 2-3 days ago it was the low was 77F now it's 63.

Alright, this was my first attemp at LSTing. I decided to try it on the Blue Mammoth as well. For whatever reason RIU posts my pictures in the opposite order that I upload them. I wanted to bend the plants a bit more, but seeing as the was my first attempt and I almost uprooted the Blue Mammoth(I saw like 2 roots) I decided to play it say. The top of the plants are still at a 90 degree angle so I don't think I did a bad job. Just wondering how much it helped. I waited till I watered the plants because I read that plants are are bendable when they have fresh water flowering through the stems.

Looking better cloudz! Much much better!

I just noticed that the pipe cleaners are on the start of each node. Would that mess up bud development? I couldn't figure out how to pull it down without the pipe cleaners stopping at where the next set of leaves start. and thanks ^_^ Oh yea I noticed pistils on the Blue Mammoth and alternating nodes on the Northern Lights.

Oh yea and I tucked giant fan leaf in pic 6 down and I LST'd the top on the right in pic 3.

Cloudz2600 said:

I just noticed that the pipe cleaners are on the start of each node. Would that mess up bud development? I couldn't figure out how to pull it down without the pipe cleaners stopping at where the next set of leaves start. and thanks ^_^ Oh yea I noticed pistils on the Blue Mammoth and alternating nodes on the Northern Lights.

Oh yea and I tucked giant fan leaf in pic 6 down and I LST'd the top on the right in pic 3.

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I think your pipe cleaners will be ok...after all, as time goes by, the bottom of your plant doesn't receive much light, doubt they'd be significant buds...the new tops you'll create will make up for it. You noticed pistils...are you 12/12 yet? So happy that things are going smoother for you!

I'm growing autoflowers. I don't have to go 12/12. They flower based on time ^_^ Added bonus is I don't have to worry about light leaks. And while that's true Lady won't I be continuing to LST the real top of the plant as it grows, Not so much concerned for the bottom nodes, but more so about the buds growing through the pipe cleaner's little hairs. Although I think I read somewhere that pipe cleaners were good to use because it was less likely to cut the stem so it can't be that bad.

Cloudz2600 said:

I'm growing autoflowers. I don't have to go 12/12. They flower based on time ^_^ Added bonus is I don't have to worry about light leaks. And while that's true Lady won't I be continuing to LST the real top of the plant as it grows, Not so much concerned for the bottom nodes, but more so about the buds growing through the pipe cleaner's little hairs. Although I think I read somewhere that pipe cleaners were good to use because it was less likely to cut the stem so it can't be that bad.

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You'll have to excuse me...I'm kind of tipsy and didn't read your original post about the pipe cleaners right. It's better to have them between nodes rather than directly on a node, for some reason I was thinking you were talking about the bottom-most nodes. I've had one too many corona's! This is a rare weekend for me, been pretty much tipsy the past couple days. Celebrating a good pay check . Completely forgot you were growing autoflowers too! Thought about trying them, but heard some people saying they weren't as potent...then again, they might have just been elitists. You'll have to tell me what you think

I'm gonna have to say they're elitist. If you wanna go by thc % autoflowers can range from low to high just like photoperiod and if you go by testimonials, well there wouldn't be a autoflower section if people didn't think they were worth growing. Only downside I really see is there's so many different photoperiod strains as opposed to autoflower, but that's just because autoflowers are still new to the market. Dinafem in the past month or so just released like 8 more autoflowers though, lookin at the white widow one.

Tried to wiggle them down a bit. On some of them I had to go up a little bit and it bunched up some of the branches to the main node. Lights just came on so we'll see how the girls respond.

Cloudz2600 said:

I'm gonna have to say they're elitist. If you wanna go by thc % autoflowers can range from low to high just like photoperiod and if you go by testimonials, well there wouldn't be a autoflower section if people didn't think they were worth growing. Only downside I really see is there's so many different photoperiod strains as opposed to autoflower, but that's just because autoflowers are still new to the market. Dinafem in the past month or so just released like 8 more autoflowers though, lookin at the white widow one.

Tried to wiggle them down a bit. On some of them I had to go up a little bit and it bunched up some of the branches to the main node. Lights just came on so we'll see how the girls respond.

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Hmm, maybe I will give them a try for myself one day.