Not guilty my lord

harrythehat

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even with all the shit i give you, all i've got for you is 3 words; f*ck the police. best of luck in all seriousness. nobody should be locked up for weed
Thanks geeza.
Really I'm a humble sort of fella. Shame we met over shit however I'm a forgiving ole git.
Never have I produced for profit YET! (Oh yes I will be doing so very soon believe it or not)
At the moment I'm a helicopter gunship LOL Bipolar fully on the reckless personality side taking on CPS.
Off my own back no barristers here just me them an a judge.
Because I AM Not guilty of production. And have a shedload if evidence in my rotary canons with sidewinders waiting in reserve.
Had it been cultivation. Hands up guilty as charged.
Anyway 1st of July cometh.
Looking forward to a media circus If they want to take it to trial
This is just a show of evidence
For judgiepoohs to make the decision.
Either way it's a win win for UK medicinal cannabis
 
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curious2garden

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Thanks geeza.
Really I'm a humble sort of fella. Shame we met over shit however I'm a forgiving ole git.
Never have I produced for profit YET! (Oh yes I will be doing so very soon believe it or not)
At the moment I'm a helicopter gunship LOL Bipolar fully on the reckless personality side taking on CPS.
Off my own back no barristers here just me them an a judge.
Because I AM Not guilty of production. And have a shedload if evidence in my rotary canons with sidewinders waiting in reserve.
Had it been cultivation. Hands up guilty as charged.
Anyway 1st of July cometh.
Looking forward to a media circus If they want to take it to trial
This is just a show of evidence
For judgiepoohs to make the decision.
Either way it's a win win for UK medicinal cannabis
CPS is a big deal. Any attorney or in UK terms solicitor or barrister would have separate representation. Knowing common law is one thing walking in to defend yourself is fraught with problems because I doubt you know statutory law.

There is a saying, The attorney who represents himself has a fool for a client. PLEASE lawyer up now. I doubt you'll listen to me but good luck anyway. If you don't have a very skilled rep this can get quite ugly.
 

harrythehat

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CPS is a big deal. Any attorney or in UK terms solicitor or barrister would have separate representation. Knowing common law is one thing walking in to defend yourself is fraught with problems because I doubt you know statutory law.

There is a saying, The attorney who represents himself has a fool for a client. PLEASE lawyer up now. I doubt you'll listen to me but good luck anyway. If you don't have a very skilled rep this can get quite ugly.
If it was a trial yes would have a barrister but it's a pre trial hearing a show of evidence for judge to decide whether it is worth taking for trial and whether it is in public interest to do so.
CPS has a number 37 plants that is pretty much all the evidence
Take that as one piece
And I may have said any excess I give to friends
Say they have two pieces.
That's it.
I have
Mental health grounds blows what I said out of contention as just had a BP attack sergeant knows am BP so should I have been questioned.??
I wasn't 2 months before when they busted me for the first time they wanted a sane person present.

37 plants would be production with 2 X 1000 or 600 watts over them I had 440 watts
Evidence
2 pages of links stating 1 gram per watt or less
2 pages of info on how much each different bulb will produce.
2 lots of pictures 1 shows my equipment 8 foot by 4 foot 40 plants
Another as comparison 24 plants 12 foot x 18 feet
Which would have 10 X 600 minimum.

Don't want to rub there noses in it but if they want to take it to trial it will be made into a media show for medicinal cannabis.
Because my company also has a LOI on completion of a successful trial to convert and produce Cannabis and a proposal taking things further.
Trial will be linked to rollitup pretty soon
 

curious2garden

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............snip.......
Don't want to rub there noses in it but if they want to take it to trial it will be made into a media show for medicinal cannabis.
Because my company also has a LOI on completion of a successful trial to convert and produce Cannabis and a proposal taking things further.
Trial will be linked to rollitup pretty soon
Well then it all works out, congratulations.
 

Star Dog

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M8 CPS have made a bo bo on this one
Over 28 plants in UK denotes production apparently
BUT 480 watts cannot be production with figures of 1 gram per watt as given yields from
Many institutes.
What I was doing was cultivation a totally different charge.
I have never produced for profit. My medicine only.
Since there is no double jeopardy
A bit difficult to charge me again.
It will be going in front of a jury in probably a couple of years time with. Backlog of 56000 cases, weed could be legalized before I get to court, who knows.

Hmm yes wonder if they can find a juror who doesn't toke in the UK
Believe my brief can also refuse jurors as an additional benefit
I'm sorry to tell you but you're getting convicted I'm afraid, you were cultivating weed the end, you're guilty in the eyes of the law.

Production with intent to supply or/and having concern in the supply is different charge.
I got caught with 2kg + 4 flowering plants, 4 mothers and some auto's.
I naturally got convinced of production because they got it, I also got charged with concern in supply but not convicted as there was no evidence whatsoever of any sales.
Best of luck to you!
 

harrythehat

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I'm sorry to tell you but you're getting convicted I'm afraid, you were cultivating weed the end, you're guilty in the eyes of the law.

Production with intent to supply or/and having concern in the supply is different charge.
I got caught with 2kg + 4 flowering plants, 4 mothers and some auto's.
I naturally got convinced of production because they got it, I also got charged with concern in supply but not convicted as there was no evidence whatsoever of any sales.
Best of luck to you!
Here's the problem CpS have charged me with production, not cultivation.
Clearly it's the wrong charge
Since there is no double jeopardy in this country the charge cannot be changed.
Hence pre trial hearing.
IF! CPS has not the evidence to convict me it has to be case dismissed.
End of story.
Hopefully come tomorrow
The conclusion will have happened

And as stated luck will not come into this.
Evidence will.
 

Star Dog

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Here's the problem CpS have charged me with production, not cultivation.
Clearly it's the wrong charge
Since there is no double jeopardy in this country the charge cannot be changed.
Hence pre trial hearing.
IF! CPS has not the evidence to convict me it has to be case dismissed.
End of story.
Hopefully come tomorrow
The conclusion will have happened

And as stated luck will not come into this.
Evidence will.
Well I certainly hope you get off with it.
If you check you'll see the UK has double jeopardy, it's not always been the cast it was introduced circa 2000.

Out of curiosity what do you thinks different between production and cultivation?
 

curious2garden

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Here's the problem CpS have charged me with production, not cultivation.
Clearly it's the wrong charge
Since there is no double jeopardy in this country the charge cannot be changed.
Hence pre trial hearing.
IF! CPS has not the evidence to convict me it has to be case dismissed.
End of story.
Hopefully come tomorrow
The conclusion will have happened

And as stated luck will not come into this.
Evidence will.
I'm thinking the fact we haven't heard from you might tell the story.
 

harrythehat

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Morning all
Been busy with preparations for Zimbabwe and getting totally smashed, LOL
Well not exactly Scot free, but mental health problems gets you out of all sorts of stooks
180 hours community service.
Which I thought a little harsh as the guy in front of me had 5 kg of Charles with intent plus other charges and he walked with a 18 month bender.
Thoughts go towards someone else taking his fall.

ANYWAY.

OH I'M GOING TO ZIMBABWE!!
 

harrythehat

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Oh well Archibald's, put the bok on it with just a paragraph, covering production no matter what the scale.
So a slap on the wrist dealt out in the way of 180 hours community service.
Could have been worse.
Anyway fuck the UK
Oh I'm going to Zimbabwe
LOL
 

Yande

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The sunshine in Zimbabwe sure beats an upcoming winter in the slammer in the UK. Good on ya mate! Having said that, best thing that ever happened when my forebears appeared in the Old Bailey and ended up being sentenced to transportation to Australia. Hanging was commuted. He stole a blanket and a pillow, modern day equlivilent of doing time for growing a couple of plants! I hope you enjoy your trip!
 
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