nute burn, cutting affected leaves

pk_boosted2

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LOL.. Plants dont need vitamins? So people shouldnt take them either right brah.. Dude you give people crazy information hahah. Plants do need vitamins and minerals to grow. Vitamin B1 and other B vitamins help reduce stress and transplant shock and prevent stress causing diseases, wow man you give people terrible information.

Coco is one of the best mediums on the planet to grow cannabis. Coco coir by nature is a ph stable medium.. It holds roughly 10x its weight in water and enables you to feed heavily due to its oxygen producing capabilities in your plants rhizosphere. Since coco unlike peat based mediums are ph stable while retaining water, it is important to know that you need to feed everyday when running coco while targeting a ph nutrient solution between 5.8-6.0.. Also when running coco for the first few weeks you need to supplement additional calcium since coco binds calcium molecules from being uptaken by your plants, its important to also run a humic and fulvic acid to make sure that the calcium is being uptaken by your roots. The process in coco that restricts calcium uptake is called chation exchange. The great thing about coco is you need to feed everyday and by increasing nutrient and calcium your plants grow vigorously and fast. Its also great because unlike peat, coco doesnt compress and provides plants rhizospheres plenty of air and oxygen for your roots to flourish.

Second theres absolutely nothing wrong with a base nutrient high in P as long as its not excessive to the point that you are locking out micro nutrients such as iron, calcium or magnesium. I have never seen a base nutrient or pk booster that has ever done this EVER. High P foods in bloom promote root mass and excellerate bud growth and development, those levels are perfectly fine for bloom. Dont forget the guy giving you information thinks you need more nitrogen in bloom which should show you his lack of knowledge. Cheers
 

ItsJustMe84

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Cheers for that dude, ive learnt to take advice on here with a pinch of salt, the veg food i was using was quiet obviously not right cause since i switched to bloom my plants have doubled in size, and look so much healthier, although i will say my mates grown with the exact small nute plan for a while, for 6 weeks old im giving my plants around a litre and half a day, some less cause they dont seem to drink as fast but all are getting fed everyday, is that enough? Shoukd i feed heavier? Only thing thats stopped me giving 3-4 litres to last is the poss of drowning them? So what? Do i carry on everyday? Or can i go for a bigger feed so maybe i dont have to go and feed them as much?? But obviously i wanna chose best option for my plants
 

pk_boosted2

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Fill me in on what i missed only saw part about using coco? What base nutes are you using and how often sre you feeding and at what ph? What week in bloom are you in?
 

pk_boosted2

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I saw the first post you made with the lower leaves yellowing.. First off thats def not nutrient burn since plants newer upper growth is where the base concentration of feedings will be uptake and displaced if you had nutrient burn it usually shows on growth tips in upper canopy.. How much cal-mag are you feeding? When running coco you need to supplement calcium in your grow the coco by nature binds calcium and inhibits uptake by your plants.. Make sure your feeding at a 5.8-6.0 ph range with base nutrients, supplement calcium i like just use cal-mag additive they usually go hand in hand. When i run coco i usually feed 1/3 to 1/2 strength maximum dosage and try fall into the 700-900 ppm range during veg and not exceeding 1200 ppm in bloom because your constantly feeding your pots. You need to always always water until you get 10-15% run off to avoid salt build up in your medium thats any drain to waste media peat coco etc.. Doesnt matter how much you drench during watering so long as you are letting the containers dry out between waterings in veg i prefer 70% dry and 30%wet range.. Bloom diff story.. So long as you do that you should be fine feeding and watering everyday as pots dry out.. How old r plants, how big and what size containers are they in? Some people make mistake of running too large containers some go to small and get rhizosphere and root issues because there isnt enough room left and air oxygen s depleted.. Lemme know that and i get back to yah good luck brah.. Cheers
 

ItsJustMe84

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Right i go into my second week of bloom on tuesday making the plants bang on 6 week old, im using vitalink bloom part a and b, then im using vitalink bio pac, all round booster, then vitalink bio plus, for root mass, both of them have the vitamans you spoke about including some kind of fish oil,, my ph always test quiet high when i first fill my tub, but if i leave it 36 hours and test its usally around 6.0 but i only started testing ph like 3 weeks ago, so there has been times ive fed my plants nutes litrally mixed 10 mins beofre, its my first grow, ive had no experience with growing until this, yh so like i said i feed them everyday try to give upto a litre and half which most of my plants are drinking easy, its just the last 4 in the room that seem to need a lot less water. Ill show u a couple of my plants
 

ItsJustMe84

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I saw the first post you made with the lower leaves yellowing.. First off thats def not nutrient burn since plants newer upper growth is where the base concentration of feedings will be uptake and displaced if you had nutrient burn it usually shows on growth tips in upper canopy.. How much cal-mag are you feeding? When running coco you need to supplement calcium in your grow the coco by nature binds calcium and inhibits uptake by your plants.. Make sure your feeding at a 5.8-6.0 ph range with base nutrients, supplement calcium i like just use cal-mag additive they usually go hand in hand. When i run coco i usually feed 1/3 to 1/2 strength maximum dosage and try fall into the 700-900 ppm range during veg and not exceeding 1200 ppm in bloom because your constantly feeding your pots. You need to always always water until you get 10-15% run off to avoid salt build up in your medium thats any drain to waste media peat coco etc.. Doesnt matter how much you drench during watering so long as you are letting the containers dry out between waterings in veg i prefer 70% dry and 30%wet range.. Bloom diff story.. So long as you do that you should be fine feeding and watering everyday as pots dry out.. How old r plants, how big and what size containers are they in? Some people make mistake of running too large containers some go to small and get rhizosphere and root issues because there isnt enough room left and air oxygen s depleted.. Lemme know that and i get back to yah good luck brah.. Cheers
There in 15 litre tubs, or 4 gallon if you're america , my tallest plants are like 3 foot tall, like i said personally i think there doing nice now, i topped them and i can see the main heads starting to show signs of early flowering wait ill go take some pics for ya, bear with me
 

pk_boosted2

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Okay. I got yah one litre in a 4 gallon pot isnt enough water you need to water until you get run off out of the bottom of your pots 10% everytime you water that helps push old unused salts out of your medium so everytime you water and feed only fresh charge of properly mixed nutrients are going into your root zone. Vita link is fine ive heard of them im sure they contain your basic needs for plant function. Ive never used em so i dont have an opinion but well just assume they are perfectly okay as they come. Second yes i believe ph is your problem that caused some plants to lockout your micro and macros at a certain level. The plants that arent drinking as much water everyday im assuming are the ones that arent doing as good correct?

If my conclusion is correct to fix the problem your gonna need to take regular water out of faucet and flush your containers with 2-3x pot volume i know its alot but its gonna work i promise.. I guarantee u collect the first 4-5 ounces of that run off and your ec or pom meter eill be maxed out when you see what gets pushed out of that medium.. After you flush wait a few days then continue with just plain water and cal-mag at 5.8-6.0 your target range they should clear up in anfew days then you can go back regular feedings.. Dont forget with coco your base nurients are probably lacking additional calcium unless its a coco base formula which u will notice most companies have because they know what coco coir demands are much higher than peat and other soils. Through procss called chation eschange it binds cwlcium to coco fibers and inhibits roots from uptaking everything plants need..
 

pk_boosted2

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Ok the first picture def looks like your having either a mag def or lockout mag hard tell just seeing small photo. But other stuff looks good im assuming the plants that arent using water as much are the ones w those deep leaf ridges and cupping on the upper leaves where your bud sites are correct?
 

pk_boosted2

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How much of base nutes are you using.. Do you see that on the top of your plants those large fan leaf tips that are clawing downward like eagle talons? Thats caused y excess fert usually either nitrogen or phosphorus. Might wannt go to reduce base ferts for a feeding or two or just use ph balanced water with your additives and lay off bases.. Bet if you checked your run off it would be sky high other than that they look nice a lush green i see they are starting to bud up nicely im sure youre gonna do great brah. Cheers
 

ItsJustMe84

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Yeah i flushed my plants before i went onto the bloom feed, only 4 at the front of the room seem to be more busy but not very tall and they only consume half the water of the others, appreciate the info on coco though, i know alot of ppl dont seem to know alot about it, ive had people telling me i shouldnt give nutes for the first 4 weeks and everything haha
 

ItsJustMe84

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How much of base nutes are you using.. Do you see that on the top of your plants those large fan leaf tips that are clawing downward like eagle talons? Thats caused y excess fert usually either nitrogen or phosphorus. Might wannt go to reduce base ferts for a feeding or two or just use ph balanced water with your additives and lay off bases.. Bet if you checked your run off it would be sky high other than that they look nice a lush green i see they are starting to bud up nicely im sure youre gonna do great brah. Cheers
Oh the first pic, sorry its a close up of were i seen the first signs of budding, the leafs that looked clawed are brand new growth about 2 days old
 

pk_boosted2

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Oh boy lol yah theres alot of bad info online lol. Anyone w a computer who knows how to type can say whatever they want like they say you can be anything you wanna be in the army, or on the internet lol! Anyways yah when u did the flush did they see to spruce back up? Dont be afraid to give em a healthy splash man make sure everytime u water or feed u get that runoff u need to thats why its called drain to waste.. Most growers use flood tables to collect the excess runoff so dont make a mess hard to do in a small grow so go get some saucers to put under pots and make sure its going thru every pot at watering then either dump em out but i like to keep a shop vac on hand and just clean em out nice and easily with that :) did u check your run off when u flushed?
 

pk_boosted2

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Ok cool perfect. You can use other bases u wud justhave supplement more calcium magnesium etc.. Ok cool man yah just watch for signs of over feeding and ph problems.. Only problem with just using coco is that there arent any buffers besides the coir to keep things in check, you easily will see deficiencies in coco but they are easy to fix keep up the good growing cheers
 

ItsJustMe84

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Hey i did some browsing just wanted to make sure that you are using the vitalink coir bases correct?
Im defo gonna change up the way i feed them, at the moment im using bang on the reccomended dose, i know i'm doing ok for my first time, i see my plants change everyday, i see them slump before lights out, and then peak by the time the lights come on, so im not utterly oblivious to it all, my mates impressed with them but i like things to be perfect, at least next time ill know
 

pk_boosted2

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I like to maintain a 5.8-6.0 ph range dont forget diff macros and micros get absorbed at diff ph ranges dont be afraid to feed one dy at say 5.8 and nect time at 6.0.. Thats esp important when running hydroponics to have a swing in ph keeps things way more stable
 

ItsJustMe84

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Ok cool perfect. You can use other bases u wud justhave supplement more calcium magnesium etc.. Ok cool man yah just watch for signs of over feeding and ph problems.. Only problem with just using coco is that there arent any buffers besides the coir to keep things in check, you easily will see deficiencies in coco but they are easy to fix keep up the good growing cheers
Yh coco sounds amazing once you know how to grow with it,
 

ItsJustMe84

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I like to maintain a 5.8-6.0 ph range dont forget diff macros and micros get absorbed at diff ph ranges dont be afraid to feed one dy at say 5.8 and nect time at 6.0.. Thats esp important when running hydroponics to have a swing in ph keeps things way more stable
Nice 1, appreciate you taking time out to reply, ill keep you posted
 
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