Official Gaia Green Grow Method

Lockedin

Lockedin

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GiovanniJones said:
This thread is amazing. So far, in a nutshell, if I could put a grow plan together that works for this style of grow, this is what it might look like right now:
  • Begin with your unamended soil and your favorite brand of organic dry nutrients. This could be Gaia Green, Dr. Earth, Roots Organics, Agricola, or similar.
  • Mix in about 3-4 TBSP of veg. or all-purpose fertilizer into your soil.
  • Moisten it and let it compost for a minimum of two weeks. Keep in mind that it has to stay moist. Use this mix for your plants.
  • Once in one-gallon pots, feed by top-dressing with veg. or all-purpose at 1/4 TBSP each week. I love this idea of feeding weekly in smaller amounts.
  • When transplanting into larger pots, use soil that was prepared as above, but with the bloom fertilizer.
  • Feed weekly by top-dressing with bloom or flower fertilizer at 1/4 TBSP per gallon of soil each week.
  • NOTE #1: At two or three points in the grow, optionally feed with compost teas. This might not be necessary if your ferts came premixed with microbes.
  • NOTE #2: Top-dressing is not necessary on transplant weeks. When your plants go into one-gallon pots, don't top-dress that week and when they go into their final containers, don't top-dress that week either because the nutes are so fresh.
  • Harvest, dry, cure, smoke and pass out.
I'll try to change this plan once in a while as more posts come in and we collectively form new ideas. I'd love it if a simple guide like this might work as a starting point that could work regardless of fertilizer brand or (in most cases), the strain. I'm trying 100% Agricola in my next round starting in a few weeks, because I already have a bag.
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IMHO - skip the one gallon transplant and go straight to final pots.
I start with plain ffof/perlite in 16oz pots - a bit wider/shallower than a solo cup - and use that as a plug when transplanting into final pots (5g for me).
re: - one transplant minimizes shock. The trade off is that I do have to exercise extra care when watering for about a week, but it's not rocket science either.

In flower I'm planning to feed every 3rd watering - dosing according to what the girls tell me.
Planning to layer Dr. Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4 in the lower third of final pots as well - they should be hungry when the roots reach there.
 
JustBlazin

JustBlazin

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JustBlazin said:
well when i first started with gaia green i bought one jug of all purpose and one of the power bloom, i liked it so much that i started buying the 10 kg bag of all purpose and i just fill up the original jug i bought to make it easier to use, so i have been going by the direction on the jug wich says 120 ml per gallon . i wanted to put in some other stuff as well so i would put in 120 ml in two gallon then add 60 ml neem meal, 30 ml insect frass, 30 ml kelp meal, 60 ml dolomite lime and 90 ml crushed oyster shell. oh and i add about 1/2 - 1 cup of ewc to the 2 gallons as well, im not sure how much ewc to use in my mix any thoughts? so i have looked on the 10kg bag and it says 45 ml per gallon, so i guess they changed it at some point and apparently i have been making my soil super hot. but it works pretty well just have to cut it to 1/2 to 1/3 for clones and when i up pot from the beer cup i make a pile half promix half my mix and put a few hand fulls around the roots of said plant so it getts some not so hot soil to work into first before it gets to the super hot soil, now full disclosure i have had one seed plant die due to it being to hot(but i saw it coming and got a clone to save the plant so i could flower it the next round) and also had some burning on a couple plants this round but other than that for about a year or more they all seem to love it. in flower i top dress with power bloom at weeks 2,4 and the last time i also did 6 works pretty awsome.
i have recently bought some more jugs of gaia green amendments to play with got some bone meal,gypsum,greensand,gound oyster shell flour and fishbone meal. not sure how im going to add them into my soil mix yet, any ideas im open for some input.
also made some mixes for top dressing 1 for veg higher in N and 1 for flower thats higher in P
here's some pics I took to show the different mixing instructions from Gaia green jug and 10 kg bag also a shot of my neem meal

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sorry i screwed up and i cant edit my post anymore for some reason counted a tbls as 30 ml when its only 15ml so my mix is 120 ml(1/2 cup) of 4-4-4 all purpose, 30 ml (2 tbls) neem meal, 15 ml (1 tbls)each for insect frass and kelp,30 ml(2 tbls) dolomite lime ,45 ml(3 tbls)crushed oyster shell and 1/2-1 cup of ewc. This stuff is kinda hot so i figured i should clarify before someone kills all there plants, cause i burnt a couple with my mix so i would imagine if you doubled up all the extras i put in it might kill most of your garden
sorry i hope i didn't screw anybody up
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Lockedin said:
IMHO - skip the one gallon transplant and go straight to final pots.
I start with plain ffof/perlite in 16oz pots - a bit wider/shallower than a solo cup - and use that as a plug when transplanting into final pots (5g for me).
re: - one transplant minimizes shock. The trade off is that I do have to exercise extra care when watering for about a week, but it's not rocket science either.

In flower I'm planning to feed every 3rd watering - dosing according to what the girls tell me.
Planning to layer Dr. Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4 in the lower third of final pots as well - they should be hungry when the roots reach there.
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Thanks for your reply.

I'm using 12G fabric pots. How often do you think I should top dress during flower? I'm also using gia green 444 and 284.
 
Lockedin

Lockedin

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Last grow (and this one) I used Dr Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4 as follows (But don't follow):
Week 4 flowering - 1/4 strength Dr Earth mixed into 1/4 gal of FFOF
Week 6 flowering - 1/2 strength Dr Earth top-dressed
Week 7 flowering - 1/2 strength Dr Earth top-dressed
--- Not very disciplined. BUT - I kept 2 plants on FFOF only, and fed the rest. All grew nicely, no nute burn, and the fert. plants had longer, fatter, denser colas.

This grow is in FFOF / 25% perlite --- my soil compacted ALOT last time.
Layering the 5g pots as follows:
Bottom 1/3 - FFOF/25% perlite & 1/4 strength Dr Earth - I want the base soil leaning towards bloom when the roots get there.
Top 2/3 - FFOF/25%

Top Dress*:
Week 2 Flower - 50/50 FFOF Dr Earth FG 1/2 strength - volume tbd.
Week 4 Flower - 1/2 strength FG (lollipopping week 3)
Week 5 Flower - 1/2 strength FG - I could probably go stronger, but I don't have enough grows under my belt yet...
Week 6 will probably be when I will start going to 3/4 then full strength --- again, lack of experience means that it's too hard to predict that far.

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Feeding - "Schedule" is based on the girls. If they respond well, I'll add a bit more next time.
I stay very KISS, and aim for healthy plants over monster buds. That said:
I pulled 10oz of bud and another 3 or 4 in larf & trim from a 4x4 on my first grow, very tasty, very potent compared to local dispos.
Clearly I got a few things right, but a quick read of that journal shows I have a lot to improve on as well. :bigjoint:
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Roshambizzle said:
Lol Matt's way doesn't work. Have you ever actually watched his videos? You think hes just lying about what he grows with? Better looking buds 100% of the time then I have seen anyone post here.
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I was a long-time synthetic grower and I knew he had problems when he used mostly coco as his medium for organic. I didn't know it at first but some long-time organic growers here warned me against coco for organics because it is so much more difficult(I believe the coco pulls too many minerals away from the plant, that is why coco always needs extra calmag?). Currently using a mix of ocean forest, promix hp, worm castings and gia green 444. Mine are in mid veg and growing great. Bloom will be interesting as I'm going to have to really monitor if I top dress too much for too little. I got some compost teas to pull out just in case.
 
high 420

high 420

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well I was at tsc store and they had gaia green all purpose 4-4-4 and bloom for $19 each, not sure if that's just my local one or if all stores are stocking it.
 
JustBlazin

JustBlazin

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i used 4-4-4 , but i top dressed with the power bloom at weeks 2 and 5, or you can do weeks 2,4 and 6 if you want. I'm sure you could just use the all purpose but you will get better results in flower with some power bloom
 
swedsteven

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If its ok i will post my progress on this threat !

Finally I dump my old medium and go for a fresh "mix"

My mix
Promix hp 5 gallon fabric pot
Gaia green 4-4-4 1 cup for each pot first mix
Gaia green 2-8-4 will use when top dressing
Grandma molasses unsulfured for the last 4 week of flowering 2mlva gallon

I just transplant my 2 week old plants un there final pot they where waiting in my veg tent and they got the same mix 45ml a gallon of 444

I water my promix and ammend each pot 1 by 1
I just train them .

DRAGON PUNCH
IRIE GENETIC

Day one of veg

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See you next week I will keep track of my progress and every move i make here!
 
swedsteven

swedsteven

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Day 6
Hi again

I order some worm casting from gaia green 30kg first time trying that stuff I will top dress it each 3 week when I topdress the 444 and 284.

Yesterday i started watering only 3 pot where dry
And 4 more this morning .i wait until the first inch is is all the way dry than i give 5 liter of tap water each pot .

The medium is a little hot but thaf ok they took off pretty fast just a couple burn leaf .my lights are no more dimmed down anymore.
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KootenayDIY said:
Trick or treat! Here’s a sweet Gaia Green treat about to be harvested. Happy Halloween!

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Hmmmmmm this look delicious sweat candy!
 
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VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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Does gia green bloom give enough macro and micro nutrients for a successful flower phase? If not, what other top dressing should be added?
 
swedsteven

swedsteven

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VILEPLUME said:
Does gia green bloom give enough macro and micro nutrients for a successful flower phase? If not, what other top dressing should be added?
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Yes but it might need a little more nitrogen in middle flower add some 444 and your good last topdress only the bloom and a little worm casting if you want to help with the micro even a little molases .

2 week in 1 litter pot and
Days 12 in there final pot they love life
i only gave them a litlle molases to feed the life 2ml a gallon each pot got 1doses and the rest only tap water
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myke

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Hi,what would you suggest for rooted clones,just straight promix? In solo cup thx.
 
VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

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myke said:
Hi,what would you suggest for rooted clones,just straight promix? In solo cup thx.
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I put them in 1L pots until they are ready for the 15G pots. Depends on your space situation, but if you can put them in a bigger container early, then I would do that.
 
myke

myke

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VILEPLUME said:
I put them in 1L pots until they are ready for the 15G pots. Depends on your space situation, but if you can put them in a bigger container early, then I would do that.
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Im wondering if i should add some 4 4 4 to the promix is what im asking.thx.
 
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