Official Gaia Green Grow Method

Fhawila said:

Amnesia Haze Sativa Dominant
Cannatonic 50/50
Nova OG Indica Dominant

Could it be the 1/3 of gaia i recently top dressed ? or the recent coconut watering? too much potassium ?

i also put the lights down a bit to 60k LUX

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I've seen a lot of plants start out broad leafed and then change to narrow leaves as an adult. Happens, especially with hybrids.

Fhawila said:

Amnesia Haze Sativa Dominant
Cannatonic 50/50
Nova OG Indica Dominant

Could it be the 1/3 of gaia i recently top dressed ? or the recent coconut watering? too much potassium ?

i also put the lights down a bit to 60k LUX

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Where did you get your Amnesia Haze from? Can't wait to see that one flower up. Is it the tallest?

Week4@inCharge said:

Where did you get your Amnesia Haze from? Can't wait to see that one flower up. Is it the tallest?

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weedseedexpress a few years ago have had them in the fridge .

i would say it’s not the tallest as haven’t had to super crop it. probably the bushiest .

I started gaia this year. Yeah, only read the first couple a pages. I'm in flower and I have Ph-ed my water to 6.5. Should I just use RO water and not worry or should I keep Ph the same 6.5? My plants look nice. I have only been using bloom. I started out with the dust and 4-4-4. The rain turned a bunch of leaves yellow. Ph of the rain water was 7.2. Its almost time to water again. I'm thinking 7.2 is a little locky. Media is sunshine peat and some dolomite lime. The first pic is OG Kush and the second is Alien Lambs Bread. Yes the Dosisdo was getting attacked by some bugs from the worm bin. I moved the worm bin so they would attack my tomato and luffa plants instead.
Does anyone Ph for outdoor?

warble said:

I started gaia this year. Yeah, only read the first couple a pages. I'm in flower and I have Ph-ed my water to 6.5. Should I just use RO water and not worry or should I keep Ph the same 6.5? My plants look nice. I have only been using bloom. I started out with the dust and 4-4-4. The rain turned a bunch of leaves yellow. Ph of the rain water was 7.2. Its almost time to water again. I'm thinking 7.2 is a little locky. Media is sunshine peat and some dolomite lime. The first pic is OG Kush and the second is Alien Lambs Bread. Yes the Dosisdo was getting attacked by some bugs from the worm bin. I moved the worm bin so they would attack my tomato and luffa plants instead.
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You technically shouldn't have to pH your water for organic pots. And more important.. whats the cross on Aliens Lamb Bread!? Sounds like a strain I'd like to try. We had a couple pots outside a few years back and if and when it rained we dragged them all inside. That rain could flush everything out of the pot that's good for it. I always thought rain water was a pH of 6.5 for some reason.

warble said:

I started gaia this year. Yeah, only read the first couple a pages. I'm in flower and I have Ph-ed my water to 6.5. Should I just use RO water and not worry or should I keep Ph the same 6.5? My plants look nice. I have only been using bloom. I started out with the dust and 4-4-4. The rain turned a bunch of leaves yellow. Ph of the rain water was 7.2. Its almost time to water again. I'm thinking 7.2 is a little locky. Media is sunshine peat and some dolomite lime. The first pic is OG Kush and the second is Alien Lambs Bread. Yes the Dosisdo was getting attacked by some bugs from the worm bin. I moved the worm bin so they would attack my tomato and luffa plants instead.
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Nice looking plants! I wouldn't worry about pH with this method unless your source water is way off, 7.2 is totally fine.

I might have missed it, but have you added any compost or worm castings to it? That's really helpful to get the nutrients from the Gaia cycling and available to the plant. Just add a few handfuls when you top-dress.

Week4@inCharge said:

You technically shouldn't have to pH your water for organic pots. And more important.. whats the cross on Aliens Lamb Bread!? Sounds like a strain I'd like to try. We had a couple pots outside a few years back and if and when it rained we dragged them all inside. That rain could flush everything out of the pot that's good for it. I always thought rain water was a pH of 6.5 for some reason.

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I got the seeds from
I think the site is not working because he ran out of seeds. If I remember correctly it was a cross of alien og and lambs bread.

weedstoner420 said:

Nice looking plants! I wouldn't worry about pH with this method unless your source water is way off, 7.2 is totally fine.

I might have missed it, but have you added any compost or worm castings to it? That's really helpful to get the nutrients from the Gaia cycling and available to the plant. Just add a few handfuls when you top-dress.

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I did add worm castings when the girls were in veg. I haven't added any compost. I do give them some Recharge and Mycos and a little molasses. I will add some compost next week.

Does anyone grow in ProMix & Gaia Green??
I’m looking to try it for the first time.
I’ve completed 10-11 straight grows in Coco (Fox farms 70/30) amended w/ GG plus a few other dry organics & worm castings.
Honestly the grows have turned out pretty good, by my standards, but my last run, which is about to finish up, I’ve had a real problem with 1 of the 3 clones I’m growing.
They’re all different strains….2 of the 3 are business as usual. But the 3rd one, White Truffle x Okie 2, is struggling across the finish line.
Roughly 2 weeks ago I noticed some yellowing starting at the leaf tips and around the edges. It quickly escalated and now most the plant has some moderate burn along with an overall fade that’s not the usual “end of the run fade”….
For the life of me I can’t figure out what has caused this. It got the same treatment as the other 2 and every plant before. I’ve had some mild N toxicity and an occasional leaf tip turn yellow…..but nothing like this.
I will say that for a short stretch, the heat for higher than I would have liked……about a 4 day stretch. I say this b/c some of what’s occurring looks like light/heat stress.
But it also resembles a K deficiency, although I supplemented the GG w/ langebienite that was crushed into a more soluble powder form.
Did I give too much? Not enough? What gives?
So, having said all that, I’d like to try ProMix.
But I have a few questions:
-do you mix anything else with the ProMix, other than your dry organics and Ewc?
-when watering, what PH is most desirable and how do you judge when to water? I know ProMix should hold moisture longer but at what point do you draw the line?
- I assume you do not want any runoff when watering??
If anyone can give me some input on working with ProMix and/or what he’ll happening to my problem clone, I’d be most grateful.
pics are from earlier this week. I included a couple of the plants that haven’t caused me any trouble, plus one of the plants together so u can see the difference
By the way, growing under 2 HLG LEDs….a 320w and a 150w.
Thanks again folks.

Bullmark said:

Does anyone grow in ProMix & Gaia Green??
I’m looking to try it for the first time.
I’ve completed 10-11 straight grows in Coco (Fox farms 70/30) amended w/ GG plus a few other dry organics & worm castings.
Honestly the grows have turned out pretty good, by my standards, but my last run, which is about to finish up, I’ve had a real problem with 1 of the 3 clones I’m growing.
They’re all different strains….2 of the 3 are business as usual. But the 3rd one, White Truffle x Okie 2, is struggling across the finish line.
Roughly 2 weeks ago I noticed some yellowing starting at the leaf tips and around the edges. It quickly escalated and now most the plant has some moderate burn along with an overall fade that’s not the usual “end of the run fade”….
For the life of me I can’t figure out what has caused this. It got the same treatment as the other 2 and every plant before. I’ve had some mild N toxicity and an occasional leaf tip turn yellow…..but nothing like this.
I will say that for a short stretch, the heat for higher than I would have liked……about a 4 day stretch. I say this b/c some of what’s occurring looks like light/heat stress.
But it also resembles a K deficiency, although I supplemented the GG w/ langebienite that was crushed into a more soluble powder form.
Did I give too much? Not enough? What gives?
So, having said all that, I’d like to try ProMix.
But I have a few questions:
-do you mix anything else with the ProMix, other than your dry organics and Ewc?
-when watering, what PH is most desirable and how do you judge when to water? I know ProMix should hold moisture longer but at what point do you draw the line?
- I assume you do not want any runoff when watering??
If anyone can give me some input on working with ProMix and/or what he’ll happening to my problem clone, I’d be most grateful.
pics are from earlier this week. I included a couple of the plants that haven’t caused me any trouble, plus one of the plants together so u can see the difference
By the way, growing under 2 HLG LEDs….a 320w and a 150w.
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I wish I could help man, I've been going through the exact same thing last three grows and can't land a finger on what the freak the problem is. it does look like a potassium deficiency, but is it caused by a lockout or not enough inputs? Probably take me another 3 years to figure out. I've gotten you have a lockout from one group, and you need to feed more from another.. enough to make you start drinking again. ..sigh. (and yes I know I have spider mites..on it) An overkill of Nitrogen will block Calcium and Potassium.

Hi Guys,

Just an update

Plants are 3 weeks into flower. Looks to me like they are growing slower than some other guys on this thread. I vegged them for 7 weeks from seed. Topped them and trained them with super cropping. I have top dressed them 1/3 Cup of 444&284 in flower. Tap water, 720W Quantum LED around 20” away at around 75% intensity (65k LUX approx). Humidity around 54 and temps between 26-28(79-83). I gave them some molasses a few waters ago and plan on giving them some coconut water on the next water. I have a feeling I am not giving them enough water as sometimes I let them dry to the point the leaves droop. Any thoughts are more than welcome team.

Also noticed one leaf looking a bit burnt.

much respect

Fhawila said:

Hi Guys,

Just an update

Plants are 3 weeks into flower. Looks to me like they are growing slower than some other guys on this thread. I vegged them for 7 weeks from seed. Topped them and trained them with super cropping. I have top dressed them 1/3 Cup of 444&284 in flower. Tap water, 720W Quantum LED around 20” away at around 75% intensity (65k LUX approx). Humidity around 54 and temps between 26-28(79-83). I gave them some molasses a few waters ago and plan on giving them some coconut water on the next water. I have a feeling I am not giving them enough water as sometimes I let them dry to the point the leaves droop. Any thoughts are more than welcome team.

Also noticed one leaf looking a bit burnt.

much respect

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On that last picture, is that diatomaceous earth or is it powdery mildew? At 54% rh, are you foliar spraying? Stop that, if that is pm. You might wanna get a fan in there. Other than that last pic, I'd say they look pretty nice. It also looks like something is chomping on your leaves. I would clear out some of that bottom foliage. It could help with some air cirulation. It could also help finding whatever is chomping your leaves. What is with the coconut water? Doesn't that attract ants? I use molasses too. I think it helps the mycorrhiza and gives the plants carbs. Just my observations.

warble said:

On that last picture, is that diatomaceous earth or is it powdery mildew? At 54% rh, are you foliar spraying? Stop that, if that is pm. You might wanna get a fan in there. Other than that last pic, I'd say they look pretty nice. It also looks like something is chomping on your leaves. I would clear out some of that bottom foliage. It could help with some air cirulation. It could also help finding whatever is chomping your leaves. What is with the coconut water? Doesn't that attract ants? I use molasses too. I think it helps the mycorrhiza and gives the plants carbs. Just my observations.

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Hey,

thanks for the thoughts. Yes that is diatomaceous earth that I applied before flip. I am in costa rica so have to be very cautious with pest management. Neem during veg, IPM (Athena), and Diatomaceous earth during veg. I am not doing any foliar sprays. Have a fan in there but I think ur right, the lower growth is probably taking away from the top. I did do a lollipop before flip but should probably clean up again. Coconut water for potassium and sugars but probably not needed if i’m giving molasses. Thought about giving some recharge to promote more microbial life.

bless

I use recharge and mycos. I think they are different, but they do seem to help. I've never used athena. Have you ever done a side by side with and without? Just wondering.

Fhawila said:

Hey,

thanks for the thoughts. Yes that is diatomaceous earth that I applied before flip. I am in costa rica so have to be very cautious with pest management. Neem during veg, IPM (Athena), and Diatomaceous earth during veg. I am not doing any foliar sprays. Have a fan in there but I think ur right, the lower growth is probably taking away from the top. I did do a lollipop before flip but should probably clean up again. Coconut water for potassium and sugars but probably not needed if i’m giving molasses. Thought about giving some recharge to promote more microbial life.

bless

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Now's the time to clean up the bottom a bit. Looking good man. The plants create their own carbohydrates (sugars) to feed the microbes. It's later in flower when that slows down a bit, thats when the Molasses and Coconut will help. And now that your cleaning up most of the leaves from the bottom.. the molasses will help big time. Your flowers look right on point for week 3. In 3 more weeks they'll start looking like the bud structure your looking for. Then the next 2-4 weeks is the fattening stage. Takes awhile, got to be patient.

Those buds are stacking up nicely…..they’ve still got plenty of time to fatten….and they will. Also, I’ve had plants that start spitting out tons of pistils a day after the flip, but I’ve also had them take 2-3 weeks before they ever get going.
The whole grow looks great.
I would def clear out some of the undergrowth and lollipop them a bit. The more grows I complete the more I detest any bud growth that’s the least bit leafy and loose.

Bullmark said:

Those buds are stacking up nicely…..they’ve still got plenty of time to fatten….and they will. Also, I’ve had plants that start spitting out tons of pistils a day after the flip, but I’ve also had them take 2-3 weeks before they ever get going.
The whole grow looks great.
I would def clear out some of the undergrowth and lollipop them a bit. The more grows I complete the more I detest any bud growth that’s the least bit leafy and loose.

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All that popcorn buds at the bottom get plucked and tossed ..those are a pain to clean up and not worth much compared to the top bud sites

Good Morning Team,

Just an update

Plants are 4 weeks old going into 5th week tomorrow.

Nova OG has a few yellow leaves not sure why.

Happy weekend everyone


much respect.

Bullmark said:

I have a simple enough question and a harder one: how long does it take a plant to begin up-taking GG?…is it the same for 444 & 284?
I’m growing 3 clones ( from Trustfall, who is a rockstar), all 3 different strains, a white truffle x okie, a Grandi guava, and a fruity pebbles og.
They are all growing in the same concoction that I’ve basically used for the last 10+ grows and there is usually no significant issues, other than an occasional extra hungry strain that starts to lighten up earlier than I’d like.
Anyway, after 8 weeks of flowering: the fruity pebbles has grown without issue & looks great.
The Grandi Guava has also did fine, other than some droopy and clawing leaves….she was also the darkest green which could be pheno related but it’s probably b/c the N levels were a tad high. I can live with it.
The white truffle plant is showing a couple of issues that I’m totally confused with. To start, there is some significant yellowing around the leaf edges on a good portion of the plant and it’s not the normal tip burn you’ll see so often. It’s present at all levels of the canopy and happened quick…it started about 10 days ago and has gradually gotten worse.
Also, some of the upper and mid level fan leaves are fading out…..this doesn’t bother me as much as these plants only have another 10-12 days before chop.
So….what caused this yellowing around the edges? Too much of something ? Not enough of something? Heat/light related ?
I did experience some hotter than norm temps around that time.
I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions.
For the record, I’m growing in buffered coco, using both GG formulas, along with a few other dry organic ingredients……under 2 LEDs, both HLG, a 320w and a 150w Patriot. Space is a 2’x6’ closet, with a 4” exhaust and several homemade passive intake vents ( aka I cut 3 circular holes in the wall and dressed them up to look decent)..
The pics are from yesterday…..2 of the yellowing, 1 of a non-problem plant, and 1 group shot.
Thanks again guys.
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I've noticed my plants start to uptake gaia after 4 days, the hygroben helps to accelerate it

Fhawila said:

Good Morning Team,

Just an update

Plants are 4 weeks old going into 5th week tomorrow.

Nova OG has a few yellow leaves not sure why.

Happy weekend everyone


much respect.

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normal if it's from the bottom..