***Official Nutrients Thread***

iBLaZe4tozErO

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so Doc...tell me what you know about nature's nectar.... i wanna try it with earl's challenge..
yo Lb this stuff has me wondering too ?? Ph is usally 5.0 once mixed. I would never use that , but its say please don't adjust. well I've done both. I need to test it out more but my plants dident die with the 5 ph. I did over fert at first then I used it 1/2 strenght. So honestly I'm not sure if needs adjustment I just feel bad giving them acidic water.
I might get a test plant to check this. but if anyone knows for sure that it doesn't need ph up I would like to know. But until then 6-6.3 is where its adjusted too.
 

crazyoutlaw

New Member
Hey,what is better Hesi Super Vit,or or that SuperThrive shit?Which one has more vitamins and essential mico-elements??Do you guys recommed I use these addtives??Im growin in coir!!!
 

o4big2mike0o

Active Member
so what about foxfarm cha-ching, open sesame, & beastie budz? is that overkill for my plant or is it relly worth it? i'm debating ordering it or not!:confused::-?:confused:
 

crazyoutlaw

New Member
man,wtf this theread sucks ass....fuck this thread.nobody answer nothin'!!muthafuckaz askin all typez of shit....fuck ya man..have a good day tho!!
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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man,wtf this theread sucks ass....fuck this thread.nobody answer nothin'!!muthafuckaz askin all typez of shit....fuck ya man..have a good day tho!!
Thanks alot man----WTF----if you go back a page you will see where I tried to answer your questions---I can't stay on-line 24hrs a day---shit man---my plants would die. thanks...
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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so what about foxfarm cha-ching, open sesame, & beastie budz? is that overkill for my plant or is it relly worth it? i'm debating ordering it or not!:confused::-?:confused:
one is an flower developer---one is a flower size booster----one is a flower extender----yes they will work but if you look at the NPK of each----that is were the science is(you could match the npk of other nutes to those numbers and get the same results----they are a lot of great flowering products on the market or you can mix your own.
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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Hey,what is better Hesi Super Vit,or or that SuperThrive shit?Which one has more vitamins and essential mico-elements??Do you guys recommed I use these addtives??Im growin in coir!!!
You should look at your main nute labels first to see whats in them-----some nutes have a balanced profile of all major and micro nutes. since your in coir you will need to add if your main nutes don't have them in----look for a micro element supplement-----I recommend going with something that has sea kelp in it.
 

South Texas

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Hey Craze, Chill Dude. I just got this note. Here's what I think, know,heard or read about.
Super Thrive, according to a Master Gardener that I listen to says that it is best used for plants in stress, for saving sick plants. And also, it is one of the best root simulators on the market (outside of the pot plant growing community).
Also, including myself, a major misconception to a vast number of people just starting to grow is that your needed supplies can only be found at 2 different places. #1.) Home Depot or Walley World. #2.) On-Line or Hydro-Shops. Take Notes People. All that you need for a very healthy, high yield natural organic grow in soil is found at your Local Nursery. NOT them idiots from Home Depot, etc! I'm talking only soil based growing, not that hydro stuff. These Urban wannabe Gardeners need as much help as we, the pot freaks need. The perfect potting soil, compost, nutes, everything is at your local Nursery. I like the Medina Hasta Gro, Plus. It's awesome. They have the needed greensand, fish emulsion, all kinds of shit that will give you a hard-on, for a decent price. Also, on the weekends, when your fucking off, listen to your local gardening program on the radio, AM. Problems with mold, they will tell you whole ground cornmeal will add nutes to your plant & kill mold & fungi. When adding molasses to organic nutes, the result doubles. Liquid seaweed keeps the spider mites away, pepper spray keeps other shit away. Blood meal is a wonderful nute also. Spend a dollar for some tomato plants, & buy what tomatoes need, because that is also what your plants need. "Rose Glo" turns out to be one of the best nutes on the market. Any product by "Lady Bug", "Dr. Gobbler", "Living Earth", Black Kow", Medina Hasta Gro is all wonderful products that you can trust with you Babies. Greensand is important, buy Epsom Salt, it adds minerals & trace elements that green sand does not, so use both. using non-sterilized manure is fine for cheap bag seeds, but don't trust it to high dollar seed plants. That's what Black Kow (cow manure) & Dr. Gobbler is for. For you worm growing people, don't use poultry manure with worms, the Nitrogen kills them. Go to "The Dirt Doctor.com" site for learning about how to turn your thumb green. All of this shit was learned by listening to a Master Gardener. I grow in & out, depending on the season. Not one time have I done a PH test, don't need to with organic shit.
Keep this thread going, we all need it. Dr. Von, good job. Whole ground corn meal does not mean enriched, bleached corn meal. Molasses does not mean maple or corn syrup.
 

floydfanx6

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Hi guys i love this thread,,just want to add some not really about nutes..many of us growers want to add PROPER co2 enrichment,but cannot since it is usually 500-700 dollars for a proper co2 genrator,,ive been researching endlessly,on how to achieve this without spending my rent money on it. There is a product out there called Supernatural Excellofizz. I tablet gets dissolved in water and it releases up to 1900 ppms of co2 in a 10x12 room. u need a new tablet everyday.use it only in flowering,,it works and is worth it,,here is the link to the cheapest place to buy it online
Texas Hydroponics :: Environmental Control :: CO2 Regulators :: SuperNatural ExcelloFizz
this is different from other co2 tablets,that u would feed to yr plants,,this is the real deal
cheers :)
 

crazyoutlaw

New Member
Hey Craze, Chill Dude. I just got this note. Here's what I think, know,heard or read about.
Super Thrive, according to a Master Gardener that I listen to says that it is best used for plants in stress, for saving sick plants. And also, it is one of the best root simulators on the market (outside of the pot plant growing community).
Also, including myself, a major misconception to a vast number of people just starting to grow is that your needed supplies can only be found at 2 different places. #1.) Home Depot or Walley World. #2.) On-Line or Hydro-Shops. Take Notes People. All that you need for a very healthy, high yield natural organic grow in soil is found at your Local Nursery. NOT them idiots from Home Depot, etc! I'm talking only soil based growing, not that hydro stuff. These Urban wannabe Gardeners need as much help as we, the pot freaks need. The perfect potting soil, compost, nutes, everything is at your local Nursery. I like the Medina Hasta Gro, Plus. It's awesome. They have the needed greensand, fish emulsion, all kinds of shit that will give you a hard-on, for a decent price. Also, on the weekends, when your fucking off, listen to your local gardening program on the radio, AM. Problems with mold, they will tell you whole ground cornmeal will add nutes to your plant & kill mold & fungi. When adding molasses to organic nutes, the result doubles. Liquid seaweed keeps the spider mites away, pepper spray keeps other shit away. Blood meal is a wonderful nute also. Spend a dollar for some tomato plants, & buy what tomatoes need, because that is also what your plants need. "Rose Glo" turns out to be one of the best nutes on the market. Any product by "Lady Bug", "Dr. Gobbler", "Living Earth", Black Kow", Medina Hasta Gro is all wonderful products that you can trust with you Babies. Greensand is important, buy Epsom Salt, it adds minerals & trace elements that green sand does not, so use both. using non-sterilized manure is fine for cheap bag seeds, but don't trust it to high dollar seed plants. That's what Black Kow (cow manure) & Dr. Gobbler is for. For you worm growing people, don't use poultry manure with worms, the Nitrogen kills them. Go to "The Dirt Doctor.com" site for learning about how to turn your thumb green. All of this shit was learned by listening to a Master Gardener. I grow in & out, depending on the season. Not one time have I done a PH test, don't need to with organic shit.
Keep this thread going, we all need it. Dr. Von, good job. Whole ground corn meal does not mean enriched, bleached corn meal. Molasses does not mean maple or corn syrup.
How do you suggest bloodleaml is best used ?During very early veg grow to stimulate vegging...diluted how many times?Do you think its too strong and could burn plants?..etc.Thanks

This goes for the 'Doc too..have you ever used bloodmeal?
 

DR. VonDankenstine

Well-Known Member
Hi guys i love this thread,,just want to add some not really about nutes..many of us growers want to add PROPER co2 enrichment,but cannot since it is usually 500-700 dollars for a proper co2 genrator,,ive been researching endlessly,on how to achieve this without spending my rent money on it. There is a product out there called Supernatural Excellofizz. I tablet gets dissolved in water and it releases up to 1900 ppms of co2 in a 10x12 room. u need a new tablet everyday.use it only in flowering,,it works and is worth it,,here is the link to the cheapest place to buy it online
Texas Hydroponics :: Environmental Control :: CO2 Regulators :: SuperNatural ExcelloFizz
this is different from other co2 tablets,that u would feed to yr plants,,this is the real deal
cheers :)
Thank you soooo much for the post-----++reps----I am going to order a small container and test it out----I have a good ppm meter in my flowering room-I will post the results in a couple of weeks---It costs me 200.00 a cycle to juice my room in the summer with tanks(I'm covered in the winter-i use a natural gas generator).
 

DR. VonDankenstine

Well-Known Member
How do you suggest bloodleaml is best used ?During very early veg grow to stimulate vegging...diluted how many times?Do you think its too strong and could burn plants?..etc.Thanks

This goes for the 'Doc too..have you ever used bloodmeal?
I have used blood meal and bone meal in the past to enrich my organic soil, but with the mad-cow disease awareness over the past couple of years I have been "pushed" to find other organic substitutes.:?
 

GotBeat5.0

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Thank you soooo much for the post-----++reps----I am going to order a small container and test it out----I have a good ppm meter in my flowering room-I will post the results in a couple of weeks---It costs me 200.00 a cycle to juice my room in the summer with tanks(I'm covered in the winter-i use a natural gas generator).

I use suggest Co2Boost bucket
Using it during my current grow and its good for 3 months no tablets or anything plug and turn on and your golden. if you look in my journal you'll see teh effects its done for them.

The Ecofizz is good too just get sick of insterting a tablet in everyday. Hence why I moved to this bucket.
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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I use suggest Co2Boost bucket
Using it during my current grow and its good for 3 months no tablets or anything plug and turn on and your golden. if you look in my journal you'll see teh effects its done for them.

The Ecofizz is good too just get sick of insterting a tablet in everyday. Hence why I moved to this bucket.
Did some research -----the bucket is good for 800ppms in a 100 cubic foot size room(small closet)---lasts 60 days at 12 hrs/day---the cost is 135 and the refill is 110----with avg co2 in air at 450-550---that would put you at 1250 to 1350 ppms----my room is 1200 cubic feet---it would take about 16 buckets to handle my room size to get me to 1500ppm's for a cycle----------2000.00--------------The bucket seems like a great idea for small rooms or grow cabs but I've got the co2 down to 200.00 a cycle using tanks. +reps for the info
 

GotBeat5.0

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Look on ebay picked up my bucket pump and everything for like 75 bucks and refills I saw were price around 50.

I use it on my loft room but yea its not like a super huge room
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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It just sucks---last year I was able to get my 20 lb's tanks filled for 10 bucks----now they charge 23.50 a tank--I don't use the juice for the first two weeks of flowering so sativa's run me close to 200.00 a cycle and 160.00 for indica strains---I only have to get a 2% net gain to break even and I think I'm at least getting a 10% gain in weight-could be a little more but I don't want to over-guess it-I've always juiced so I don't really know---might have to run a cycle of the same strain without the juice and compare, but even at that it wouldn't be a 100% accurate comparison.
 
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