OK, WHO HAS THE FATTEST BUDS AND USES BLOOM BOOST TO GET THERE

pulpoinspace

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Common misconception that nutrients are "plant food". they're more like plant vitamins. As long as a plant has the nutrients it needs it will reach its genetic potential. A closer analog to food for plants is the sun. So let me ask you this? Do you grow big from taking a bunch of vitamins or eating a bunch of food? "Bloom Boosts" besides PGRs (which should never be used) are just different combinations of nutrients taken out of a main nutrient system to sell you more shit. Good systems don't require the use of bloom boosts because the main nutrient has everything the plant needs.

And at the end of the day if you're growing for size you're doing it wrong in my opinion. You want a plant to reach its full genetic potential in every regard. It will be the right size, the right smell, and the right potency.
 

bk78

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Just base a&b micro a
@Jjgrow420 Flower size is genetic assuming the garden is equipped with appropriate lighting for the space. Some strains grow golf balls. Some strains grow donkey dicks. It's not your growing prowess or what PK booster you use that determines flower size. I'm sorry if this information is inconvenient to your preconceived notions.

No PK boosters:
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How does one get fried plants like these without overdoing a booster?

crispy critters

oh and pluck your nanners prior to the photoshoot too
 

jonnynobody

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Just base a&b micro a



How does one get fried plants like these without overdoing a booster?

crispy critters

oh and pluck your nanners prior to the photoshoot too
Dude I'm halfway through my 8 week youtube doctorate program in photoshop. Don't you think it's a little unreasonable to expect perfection so soon? I thought I did pretty good covering up all that mite damage and powdery mold.

Momma was right. I don't have magic shoes and I'm going no-fucking-where. At least not without my youtube photoshop doctorate. Almost there babe :)
 

jonnynobody

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Just base a&b micro a



How does one get fried plants like these without overdoing a booster?

crispy critters

oh and pluck your nanners prior to the photoshoot too
If you want in I've got a 10% discount code. Works for overpriced HLG gear too! 2 for 1 special baby!
 

bk78

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Dude I'm halfway through my 8 week youtube doctorate program in photoshop. Don't you think it's a little unreasonable to expect perfection so soon? I thought I did pretty good covering up all that mite damage and powdery mold.

Momma was right. I don't have magic shoes and I'm going no-fucking-where. At least not without my youtube photoshop doctorate. Almost there babe :)
I mean you’re the one posting a hundred awful pics with your plants fried to shit claiming you don’t over feed. Not me
 

go go kid

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The primary reason to avoid PK boosters is that most fertilizer companies use what's called "technical grade" fertlilizer. It's cheap. Dirt cheap. P and K by their nature are naturally contaminated with all sorts of heavy metals. They're filthy fucking elements. Now a good fertilizer company that knows what they're doing insists that their suppliers of raw elements that go into their bags of fertilizer contain zero heavy metals. Sure, it costs more to do this but it ensures the food and medicine you're growing with that fertilizer isn't contaminated with heavy metals that can have severe health consequences. And since we dry and smoke the flesh of the plants we're growing ensuring our base fertilizers are heavy metal free is probably the most important decision you will ever make in your garden. Keeping heavy metals out of your lungs is the primary benefit, but what also happens? Your pot burns better. It tastes better. It's not as harsh to smoke. It's downright more enjoyable, and a better quality medicine when it is free of all heavy metals.

When I started growing hydroponically I used General Hydroponic's flora series with their Koolbloom PK booster. The flowers were absolutely gorgeous. THC Bomb. And they were so harsh to smoke that the product was nearly unusable. It burned to a hard charcoal. Clean gray ash? Yeah, not even close. Every bowl had to be dug out with a paper clip because of the awful heavy metal contamination. The smoked scorched my throat. And this is something that most of us who have patronized a store front dispensary have experienced at one time or another. Tons of 'Dro grown pot that tastes like chemicals and is harsh as can be to smoke. But man it looked great in the jar at the dispensary. Even smelled amazing too! You can't smell or see heavy metals in the plant's tissue though can you? You will taste it though and you will feel it in your throat. You will see your bowl burn poorly to a hard charcoal. Those are the heavy metals contaminating your ash. Lovely eh?

When I tried Jack's 5-12-26 a couple years after my THC Bomb debacle I grew in the same water to waste hydro buckets, but ditched general hydroponic's fertilizer and omitted any use of any PK booster at all whatsoever. Just Jack's 5-12-26, epsom salt, and calcium nitrate PH adjusted to 5.8 at 1.6-1.8 EC. The strain was gg#4 grown under a single ended 600w HPS. I hit .75GPW and the pot tasted amazing! It burned beautifully to a clean gray ash. And it was an outright pleasure to enjoy. Then I switched to GH's maxi grow and bloom, because I thought cannabis specific fertilizer was going to make my pot better. For over a year I used maxi and could not figure out why my pot didn't taste as amazing as it did when I was using jack's 5-12-26. I asked around and got nowhere. I started reading and got somewhere. Heavy metal contamination in the fertilizer industry is pervasive and ugly. I learned that it is of paramount importance that you are using a professional grade fertilizer that is free of heavy metals, and that means purchasing from a reputable company that knows what they're doing. I switched my entire garden over to jack's about 10 weeks ago. I just harvested a blue dream grown under 360w Geyapex COB LED light, and had a chance to smoke 2 flowers that were dry enough to burn down yesterday. Oh my god I cannot tell you how relieved I was when I inhaled and tasted no chemical flavor. The smoke was smooth and flavorful. I attribute this to my choice in using a heavy metal free fertilizer. Jack's does use technical grade fertilizer, but they test all of their raw components for heavy metals to ensure they are free of any contamination. This means Jack's sources their raw ingredients from quality suppliers that remove those heavy metals, so they do not wind up in our food and medicine. Jack's does this, because jack's knows what they're doing.

I believe in using a balanced fertilizer from start to finish. I do not believe bloom boosters to be necessary. However, I also do not believe them to be harmful if sourced from a reputable company that ensures that extra P and K is 100% heavy metal free. And the problem is only a few companies are spending the extra money to do this. If you're going to experiment with P and K boosters buy it from a company like Jack's. At least then you have confidence knowing your P and K isn't loaded with disgusting heavy metals that will negatively impact your flavor, burn qualities, and ultimately your health.

Word to your mother homie :)

Source: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/risk/studies/metals.html
being a bit of a chemastry boff, im all to aware of the heavy metal content of tech grade chems. many thanx for this post
 

go go kid

Well-Known Member
The primary reason to avoid PK boosters is that most fertilizer companies use what's called "technical grade" fertlilizer. It's cheap. Dirt cheap. P and K by their nature are naturally contaminated with all sorts of heavy metals. They're filthy fucking elements. Now a good fertilizer company that knows what they're doing insists that their suppliers of raw elements that go into their bags of fertilizer contain zero heavy metals. Sure, it costs more to do this but it ensures the food and medicine you're growing with that fertilizer isn't contaminated with heavy metals that can have severe health consequences. And since we dry and smoke the flesh of the plants we're growing ensuring our base fertilizers are heavy metal free is probably the most important decision you will ever make in your garden. Keeping heavy metals out of your lungs is the primary benefit, but what also happens? Your pot burns better. It tastes better. It's not as harsh to smoke. It's downright more enjoyable, and a better quality medicine when it is free of all heavy metals.

When I started growing hydroponically I used General Hydroponic's flora series with their Koolbloom PK booster. The flowers were absolutely gorgeous. THC Bomb. And they were so harsh to smoke that the product was nearly unusable. It burned to a hard charcoal. Clean gray ash? Yeah, not even close. Every bowl had to be dug out with a paper clip because of the awful heavy metal contamination. The smoked scorched my throat. And this is something that most of us who have patronized a store front dispensary have experienced at one time or another. Tons of 'Dro grown pot that tastes like chemicals and is harsh as can be to smoke. But man it looked great in the jar at the dispensary. Even smelled amazing too! You can't smell or see heavy metals in the plant's tissue though can you? You will taste it though and you will feel it in your throat. You will see your bowl burn poorly to a hard charcoal. Those are the heavy metals contaminating your ash. Lovely eh?

When I tried Jack's 5-12-26 a couple years after my THC Bomb debacle I grew in the same water to waste hydro buckets, but ditched general hydroponic's fertilizer and omitted any use of any PK booster at all whatsoever. Just Jack's 5-12-26, epsom salt, and calcium nitrate PH adjusted to 5.8 at 1.6-1.8 EC. The strain was gg#4 grown under a single ended 600w HPS. I hit .75GPW and the pot tasted amazing! It burned beautifully to a clean gray ash. And it was an outright pleasure to enjoy. Then I switched to GH's maxi grow and bloom, because I thought cannabis specific fertilizer was going to make my pot better. For over a year I used maxi and could not figure out why my pot didn't taste as amazing as it did when I was using jack's 5-12-26. I asked around and got nowhere. I started reading and got somewhere. Heavy metal contamination in the fertilizer industry is pervasive and ugly. I learned that it is of paramount importance that you are using a professional grade fertilizer that is free of heavy metals, and that means purchasing from a reputable company that knows what they're doing. I switched my entire garden over to jack's about 10 weeks ago. I just harvested a blue dream grown under 360w Geyapex COB LED light, and had a chance to smoke 2 flowers that were dry enough to burn down yesterday. Oh my god I cannot tell you how relieved I was when I inhaled and tasted no chemical flavor. The smoke was smooth and flavorful. I attribute this to my choice in using a heavy metal free fertilizer. Jack's does use technical grade fertilizer, but they test all of their raw components for heavy metals to ensure they are free of any contamination. This means Jack's sources their raw ingredients from quality suppliers that remove those heavy metals, so they do not wind up in our food and medicine. Jack's does this, because jack's knows what they're doing.

I believe in using a balanced fertilizer from start to finish. I do not believe bloom boosters to be necessary. However, I also do not believe them to be harmful if sourced from a reputable company that ensures that extra P and K is 100% heavy metal free. And the problem is only a few companies are spending the extra money to do this. If you're going to experiment with P and K boosters buy it from a company like Jack's. At least then you have confidence knowing your P and K isn't loaded with disgusting heavy metals that will negatively impact your flavor, burn qualities, and ultimately your health.

Word to your mother homie :)

Source: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/risk/studies/metals.html
ye gads, ill not sleep for a month after reading that scarry tale. many thanx
 

jonnynobody

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Look ma

not burnt to shit

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Good looking ladies dude. No defoliation? To be fair you're comparing a photo of your plants that appear to be in the 3rd or 4th week of flower to my plants that were at week 10. I harvest flowers. Not leaves. I'll sacrifice a few crunchy leaf edges at the top of the canopy to get rock hard dense colas throughout. I'm pushing the flower power pretty hard presently cranking out 4900w at the moment with very limited head space. Eventually the HID's will be replaced with more efficient LED's as soon as funds allow. Tired of $650 electric bills every month. I get roughly 8# per cycle every 13 weeks or so with processing, dry, and flip time included. The juice is worth the squeeze, but with more efficient LED's I can achieve a better light spread while saving 40% on my electric bill. I'd be very okay with that.

Good looking girls. What fertilizer EC and medium do you run?
 

Rabeats2093

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size of the buds depends on genetics and on training. if you want giant buds do Sea of green 1 cola per plant. no topping or LST. cut off the lateral branches so all energy goes to the main cola. biggest colas ive seen are usually from sativas i think.

giant buds just mold easier tho
1cola per plant ...we are fucked
 

jonnynobody

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@bk78 I just saw your sig. Epic :)

I once had a jackwagon tell me pot doesn't have a smell unless you add a chemical to make it smell. I just smiled and stared back blankly hoping the moment would end as quickly as it started praying god he wasn't about to offer me more grow advice.
 

Jjgrow420

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I'd laugh and walk away from this conversation too. Seems like your most valuable contribution thus far.
lol whatever man we have diff views i personally have a life and the thought of arguing with someone on the internet about their small buds doesnt peak my interest too hard.
im trying to just agree to disagree. my opinion is diff than yours. doesnt make either of us right or wrong. we can just leave it at that
you can try to gaslight me but really i dont care.
i said your buds are nice but youre flaunting them around like theyre the cream of the crop and really if it were me id be pretty dissapointed with them. to each their own
 

Scuzzman

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I would call out a sales person for saying that, rip them to shreds for talking shit, hear and see it alot , young dumb trying to be a hero grower
 

Brettman

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@bk78 I just saw your sig. Epic :)

I once had a jackwagon tell me pot doesn't have a smell unless you add a chemical to make it smell. I just smiled and stared back blankly hoping the moment would end as quickly as it started praying god he wasn't about to offer me more grow advice.
Wow haha. All this time I’ve never turned my phone sideways to see what bk’s says. Lmao.
 

jonnynobody

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lol whatever man we have diff views i personally have a life and the thought of arguing with someone on the internet about their small buds doesnt peak my interest too hard.
im trying to just agree to disagree. my opinion is diff than yours. doesnt make either of us right or wrong. we can just leave it at that
you can try to gaslight me but really i dont care.
i said your buds are nice but youre flaunting them around like theyre the cream of the crop and really if it were me id be pretty dissapointed with them. to each their own
An argument implies there are facts in question. There's no argument. Genetics determine flower size. Facts aren't up for debate.
 
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