Organic soil water only

green_machine_two9er · Feb 27, 2021

GrassBurner said:
Looking great!! I run a coots mix soil, and just recently switched everything over to sips. Plant growth and health has been incredible!! It's amazing what the proper moisture level does

Ooo yeah. Nice. Love to see pics of your sips! I’ve never done a true sip. Just bottom watering. And one time I filled a kiddy pool with perlite and vermiculite and sat a bunch of fabrics in it. Then dumped water. Plants loved it! Wish I could find old pictures.

GrassBurner · Feb 27, 2021

I've got one setup like you're talking about :blsmoke:

It's a big thick plastic Mason tub. 24"x36" I believe, probably 6" deep. Has 3 cu ft of perlite, and a 10 gallon and a 7 gallon fabric pots sitting on top with coots mix. I just dump water in it and they drink what they want :mrgreen:

Watering was my biggest issue from the beginning, im still pretty new to all this. I can really see how far off I was :lol:

My other sips are 20"x24" planter box sips from Lowes that use soil columns for wicks
These 2 plants were already a few weeks into flower when I picked the latest sip up, so I just buried the (2) 5 gallon fabric pots a few inches into the soil to finish this run.

Same sips, but these are the first plants I've run from seedlings in a sip. I mixed in some Dr Earth Homegrown dry ammendments at half strength. Just top dressed with some Dr Earth Pure Gold. Check out this growth.

2 week old seedlings. Day 1 in sip

Day 33 in sip

Day 42 in sip. I let them get a little out of hand, and lighting wasn't quite up to par. Ive got (2) qb288s running in there now at 120 watts each. Did some defoliation today for airflow. Tomorrow I've got to start bending and tying branches down.

green_machine_two9er · Feb 28, 2021

GrassBurner said:
I've got one setup like you're talking about It's a big thick plastic Mason tub. 24"x36" I believe, probably 6" deep. Has 3 cu ft of perlite, and a 10 gallon and a 7 gallon fabric pots sitting on top with coots mix. I just dump water in it and they drink what they want Watering was my biggest issue from the beginning, im still pretty new to all this. I can really see how far off I was
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My other sips are 20"x24" planter box sips from Lowes that use soil columns for wicks
These 2 plants were already a few weeks into flower when I picked the latest sip up, so I just buried the (2) 5 gallon fabric pots a few inches into the soil to finish this run.
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Same sips, but these are the first plants I've run from seedlings in a sip. I mixed in some Dr Earth Homegrown dry ammendments at half strength. Just top dressed with some Dr Earth Pure Gold. Check out this growth.

2 week old seedlings. Day 1 in sip
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Day 33 in sip
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Day 42 in sip. I let them get a little out of hand, and lighting wasn't quite up to par. Ive got (2) qb288s running in there now at 120 watts each. Did some defoliation today for airflow. Tomorrow I've got to start bending and tying branches down.
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Looking awesome

people say organic soil is slow. I don’t see it. Look at that growth in 30 days.

green_machine_two9er · Mar 1, 2021

Well here ya go folks. Zero
Hormones rooting method. First visible root at 10 days from cut. It’s unbelievable! Or is it.

cannibus loves to root!! We have made it soooo complicated and forgot the the “gel” type hormone products are only trying to replicate nature. Nature will Always be more efficient and effective!
Pics or it didn’t happen!!
Starts cut on feb 20th. Maintained 75 f and spray plastic dome 2x a day. Never spray the plant!!! I go straight into promix hp via plug with azos. I prefer the bacteria method seeing that we have an organic garden. Why start with chemical based hormones.

And this morning March 1

also notice I rarely do and human cloning tricks like cut the leaves or scraping stem or anything really. Just give them space from their neighbors and let em be!

green_machine_two9er · Mar 1, 2021

Here’s some night time pics of the current gelato run, flipping to flower within a week or so. They are rocking in recycled soil! All the companions are from last cycles cover crop in 30 gallon pots. Just went with small pots this round so no really true companions planted. But live and let live. It’s all life!

Don’t forget to water daily!! Just alittle at first. Working up. Never let organic living soil “dry” like traditional methods tell us from every angle.

green_machine_two9er · Mar 7, 2021

Less than a week later and these are filling out

sneak peak inside my lung closet. 800cfm. Makes negative pressure inside box and pulls through 6 inch Y. One can be put onto hoods or hooked into veg room. The second can hook up to myAC. Get all the ac exhaust to go through carbon filter before outside. First throug duct muffler. Takesout almost all the noise.

She’s a beautiful specimen

green_machine_two9er · Mar 13, 2021

About two weeks from flip. This is when I start my “flowering”. Not till buds are forming.

green_machine_two9er · Mar 21, 2021

healthyplants.

I really like this new setup. Much more room to work, or should I say play. Happy growing friends.

bud picture will be next....

green_machine_two9er · Mar 23, 2021

Loving these buds!
This post if for the companions that snuck through during recycling 30 gallon no till soil.
Didn’t have the heart to kill anything that pops out. It’s amazing how fast this plant will flower. Here’s some. Buckwheat about to explode.

it’s a p fixatator and should always been tilled or recycled into soil.

Stay tuned

green_machine_two9er · Apr 1, 2021

Hollatchaboy · Apr 1, 2021

green_machine_two9er said:
Your right. My top dress does have neem. It's actually the same as my Nutrient mix from the soil. I did try to pulverize the top dress this time in a food processor just for fun.

I bought the beds. Or one bed. 4x8 with the blusoak kit. Can't wait to set up. I'm gunna start a whole thread when all the pieces come together.

BluSoak 4' x 8' Raised Bed Kit - Outdoor Deluxe for Living Soil

BluSoak 4' x 8' Raised Bed Kit - Outdoor Deluxe for Living Soil

new.sustainablevillage.com

Would mbp be better?

green_machine_two9er · Apr 1, 2021

Hollatchaboy said:
Would mbp be better?

Yes lol. Better than what though??

Hollatchaboy · Apr 1, 2021

green_machine_two9er said:
Yes lol. Better than what though??

I believe you put in your recipe malted barley whole, and grinded in the food processor.

green_machine_two9er · Apr 1, 2021

Hollatchaboy said:
I believe you put in your recipe malted barley whole, and grinded in the food processor.

Yes. My thought was to replace carbohydrate source in soil, typically I used whole brown rice, this last batch of soil was on point. Not sure if it’s due to the whole barley or what.

Mbp I reserve for topdress and occasionally watered in.

Hollatchaboy · Apr 1, 2021

green_machine_two9er said:
Yes. My thought was to replace carbohydrate source in soil, typically I used whole brown rice, this last batch of soil was on point. Not sure if it’s due to the whole barley or what.

Mbp I reserve for topdress and occasionally watered in.

Ok so malted barley whole for soil mix, mbp for top dress?

green_machine_two9er · Apr 1, 2021

Hollatchaboy said:
Ok so malted barley whole for soil mix, mbp for top dress?

Yes! I figured why not. But I’ve also used lots of different fungal foods( carbs ) in soil builds and never see anything pop out as better or worse.

Hollatchaboy · Apr 1, 2021

green_machine_two9er said:
Yes! I figured why not. But I’ve also used lots of different fungal foods( carbs ) in soil builds and never see anything pop out as better or worse.

Ok so it's not really any better than any other carb source then?

green_machine_two9er · Apr 5, 2021

Hollatchaboy said:
Ok so it's not really any better than any other carb source then?

I switch back and forth often and don’t see any difference. So not really.

green_machine_two9er · Apr 5, 2021

Hollatchaboy said:
Ok so it's not really any better than any other carb source then?

To me it’s usually what’s available. I can’t get my usual 25ln brown rice right now. I’ll probable switch back to whole malted barley next build.

which is awesome because I am in the soil building paradise right now. I am just starting 20 cf builds every 2 weeks. I’m might just start a thread dedicated to really documenting the different mixes and subtle changes each brings to the plant. Go with the same strains snd all that good stuff.

Hollatchaboy · Apr 5, 2021

green_machine_two9er said:
To me it’s usually what’s available. I can’t get my usual 25ln brown rice right now. I’ll probable switch back to whole malted barley next build.

which is awesome because I am in the soil building paradise right now. I am just starting 20 cf builds every 2 weeks. I’m might just start a thread dedicated to really documenting the different mixes and subtle changes each brings to the plant. Go with the same strains snd all that good stuff.

Sounds good. That's a lot of soil, so I'm guessing outdoor?

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