P.P.P. x Blueberry x Sativa.(Full gro with pics)

tahoe58

Well-Known Member
I am a full form follows function person when it come to nature and its adaptations and evolutions. However, as I get older, I am also more and more convinced that there is more going on than just that. Your specific question? never thought of it that way.....but that doesn't change its potential as a possible explanation.....
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Well cannabis would be a plant that definitely wouldn't want to attract butterflies or moths as they lay larvae that eat green leafed plants and the buds.
But the moths etc. will come anyway,so they need a defender bug.

They don't require flying creatures of any kind for pollination.
The spiders would attract birds to feed on them,birds which in turn would eat the seeds as well as the adult spiders.

When the birds crap the well fed spider meat poop out they spread a fair few fertilized seeds.
Seems like cannabis may have adapted to that circle of life as a means to protect itself from bugs and to attract a food supply for a seed dispersal system that can fly a long way and spread it out.:blsmoke:

Just another of my crazy theories though:mrgreen:



 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
blonddie07 wow... nice fim! Im going to fim one of my plants soon... i hope i get that many shoots :smile:
Thanks for commenting and taking a look.
I see no reason why it wont work for you.
The only real trick is not to over or underfimm:blsmoke:


BIGMIKE13 fuck i missed....

nice job, you will enjoy these bushes !!!
I sure hope so:mrgreen:
Thanks for stopping in and comments:peace::joint:
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
You seem to be an expert on fimming...I fimmed one of mine just for an experiment but only two heads came out just like when I top. What did I do wrong? Does this happen sometimes?
Oh yeah and I did when it was 3 days into 12/12(I know you're not supposed to do that but it was just for experimental purposes) do you think that had anything to do with it?
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
You seem to be an expert on fimming...I fimmed one of mine just for an experiment but only two heads came out just like when I top. What did I do wrong? Does this happen sometimes?
Oh yeah and I did when it was 3 days into 12/12(I know you're not supposed to do that but it was just for experimental purposes) do you think that had anything to do with it?
It is probably because you have taken of a bit to much and the fact that your in 12/12 as well.
Here is what i try to aim to take of when i fimm.

As you can see the plants were very small when i did this first.
Pots are not much bigger than small plastic vended coffee cups.

This plant is very small here and i have zoomed in a lot.
The actual amount i have removed is about the size of a matchead and i always do it when they are only weeks old to get the best amount of splits.
They seem to mutate into more tops a lot easier when they are very young.
Try to leave as near as you can to about 10-20% of the tip on.
Using bonsai scissors and a magnifying glass makes this job a lot easier:blsmoke::peace:
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
Ok cool...Mine looked just like that. I think it was b/c I was in flowering already then...Thanks for the info, appreciate it. I'm fimming all my plants next grow.
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Best of luck with it blaze.
You may still find that the extra tops may still grow out of the cut area,just more slowly.
Sometimes the cut tips look like shit but they still grow some new tips.
You can see in this pic that it appears to only be growing 2 new side tips same as a normal topping but after a week or so its turned into 5 tops.
I can see this only with a magnifying glass or zooming in in high res at that stage.


 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Ok here is the latest pictures.
Tomorrow i will do their final fimm,they then have 2 weeks of veg to recover and regrow and then they go to 12/12 regardless of how many tops have appeared.

At the moment its looking more likely to be about 40 tops on the best ones and between 20-30 on the others by the time i go to 12/12.
I would wait longer and do what i said and go for the 50 tops and make sure i had 50 but i am running low on medicine so they have 2 weeks only.

Pics show fimmed areas with some zoomed shots showing the new growth and the amount of new tops that are beginning.
Tomorrow i will get the magnifying glass out and snip the really small tips of with bonsai scissors and try not to over snip.
This is very difficult when they are such small tips but i don't have the time frame to wait any longer:blsmoke:















 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Heres some pics for today.
Not much to tell really.
No problems so far,everything is splitting up nicely and reforming into new heads.
14 days left till 12/12.
Enjoy the pics.:blsmoke:





















 

tahoe58

Well-Known Member
love your shots....its like to can smell the air and feel the texture.....thanks for the update!
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Thanks for checking them out tahoe:joint:
As to air quality,how many of you guys live in highly polluted areas?
Do you have to filter the air pumped into your grow areas?

My mate went to L.A. and he said it stank really bad compared to our country side area anyway and that he and his missis bought face masks when they were out and about.
Ive never been so i don't know if he was exaggerating or not but he said it damn stunk there of fumes.

Anyway for those that don't know weed doesn't like polluted air if you live in stinky polluted areas make sure you filter the air as you would your water as bad air will also make your yield lower.

Where i live its just smells like cowshit:mrgreen:
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
More pics basiclly.
Everything is fine so far and i am happy with them.
I may invest in a 400watt mh/hps conversion bulb next time though to see what i can really get them to do.
2 more weeks and i will give the plans out for my new grow pot so anyone can build it.

All of the fimmed sites have responded brilliantly and i am glad that this new cross hasn't made me look dumb in public and died or performed badly in any way shape or form.
Only one seed never grew the albino.:blsmoke:













 

goatamineHcL

Well-Known Member
yours are growing mych faster than my friends nat he is using a 1000watt hps is thaT TOO MUCH LIGHT or is it another factor you think?

im talking about the fimmed spots and new heads
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
yours are growing mych faster than my friends nat he is using a 1000watt hps is thaT TOO MUCH LIGHT or is it another factor you think?

im talking about the fimmed spots and new heads
I only give my plants sips of water when they require it.
Flood once a week.
And i use an 80/20 mix of soil to perlite.
This is a lot more work as i have to water them more often but the amount of air in the soil is greatly increased which helps and also these are my own f1 hybrids,from fresh carefully harvested and looked after seed.

True pure f1s as a general rule are 25% better at everything,including the end buds strength.
Good f1s are often cloned continually for their extra potency and vigor and never reseeded by commercial growers.

I also am using blue lights and red lights at all times.
2 cool blue fluro tubes and a dual spec hps,i think it makes a genuine difference and is worth the extra layout to have blue and red spectrums all the way through.

Having a 20% amount of perlite in the soil means that my roots always have air and can never become sodden and heavy soiled.
It also helps to stop soil souring from over watering.
I use filtered water and live in the country so i have very little air pollution in comparison to some areas which also helps.

I have heard the theory that sometimes to many lumens can be damaging to young plants but i dont know to be honest as i have never used any other powerful lights.

Its more likely that he has over watered them and i think this is the main reason for stalling seedlings.
Make them search for water by giving sips on one half of the pot whilst the other side is drier and alternate the sides of the pot you water on.
Flood them only once a week.
All the above is only what i do and i have no evidence of anything:blsmoke:
 

natmoon

Well-Known Member
Heres tonights pics.
As you can see the are now needing to be fed.
I have just given them a light watering with a light feed of babybio mixed in just enough to keep them healthy until Monday when the ionics soil grow and bloom nutes will be purchased from a local store.

Ive chosen ionics as people seem to like them yet they are fairly cheap still.
A large move up from using miracle grow and tomorite anyway.
Hopefully i will get some better results from using decent feeds and not burn them all.
Im going to slowly introduce them and see how it goes.

All of the fimmed areas are now growing nicely but there will not be 50 tops in my time frame.
Maybe if i had a mh bulb and started them in an aeroponics kit i might be able to achieve this in the time frame that i had.
Still plenty of tops though and all healthy so i aint complaing.:blsmoke:



























 
Top