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Kdoggy

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They look like they were burnt by too much fertilizer. I was trying to find pics of my grow from 8 years ago, but I can't find the pics lol. Mine don't look too bad, they're just really small, they say you can get a pound of bud from one Bubblegum plant, I don't think that's going to happen. When you have the right genetics, strong lights, good circulation, the right fertilizer, these plants turn into 6-foot trees in a couple of months, these little plants don't produce much. I don't if I'll get another chance to grow again anytime soon or if I'll get to finish this grow. I swear the best fertilizer when they have started flowering is raw untreated molasses.
Really ya i just use flora series by i hydro grow all my garden veg with it too. Ya it probably was it had almost no water but i really think the 4 ph fried it lol i feel like id like to try replicating on another plant just 3 days before flush haha.
 

DJCA

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Really ya i just use flora series by i hydro grow all my garden veg with it too. Ya it probably was it had almost no water but i really think the 4 ph fried it lol i feel like id like to try replicating on another plant just 3 days before flush haha.
Yeap, definitely too acidic for the soil. Sorry man, don't mean to criticize you. It took me many attempts to learn how to grow weed, over many years. Failed on the many first attempts. When I started out, the internet wasn't that accessible, like it is today, it was illegal, and very risky. I never sold drugs, Marijuana was the only thing that helped me cope with my chronic insomnia and I was always overactive. Back then, the only way to get weed, was to find a dealer and hope for the best. Books about growing marijuana were illegal for a while in Canada. Marc Emery's movement, his store, his mail order seed business, and the magazine that he published all contributed to making those books legal again. I visited his store back in Vancouver many years ago, I bought the Marijuana grower's Guide, I studied that book and read it many times. It took about or times before I was finally able to grow buds. I smoked the leaves for the longest time, lol.

When all the conditions are perfect, these plants grow amazingly fast, but there are so many factors to control. My favorite growing medium is ProMix, I usually like to mix in a bit of limestone in with it, although I forgot this time. It helps to control the PH, making it slightly more alkaline, and helps with nutrient absorption. It also contains calcium and magnesium, which helps provide nutrients to the flower growing phaze and help prevent mold (bud rot). I find that the limestone enhances the plants ability to absorb more nutrients while controlling PH, lowering acidity. The trick is to get the balance right. Molasses, naturally contain sulfur, many trace minerals, and vitamin B to boost flower production. Sulfur is a natural anti fungal, the carbs increase production of beneficial bacteria.

I remember one of the first topics in that book was about over watering. It recommended that the grower allow the soil to dry between watering, just to be sure the plant should be allowed to start wilting before being watered. I did this a few times and I was surprised to see how long the plant could go. And I also discovered over time that dry soil pushes the plant to produce more resin, I think it's a defense mechanism. So for the last few weeks, I tend to torture my plants by providing a dry environment giving them nothing but water and very little of it. It's like part of my curing process. The plants ooze resin, while the dryness insures that old cannot grow. That's my way of flushing the planst, as part of the curing process, I litteraly torture them to death. The last time I was able to do this, it was the most amazing weed I ever smoked a lot of weed in my day, lol. It brings out the natural flavor of the plant, the molasses make the buds sweet. It was kind of hard to smoke a joint of it because it was kind of like trying to smoke a block of resin, lol.
 

arch7699

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Ya but ive had the worst looking plant be the best tasting and high so it isnt always bad. I went to hawaii on holidays and ph dropped to 4 this is what it looked like but absolutly every loves it completly destroys you but you can still function so i bet u get crazy good stuff. Bugs ive heard always helps the plant in quality not quantity as its fighting it producing resin and thc my buddy swears by it. View attachment 4758929View attachment 4758930
Are you talking about bug infestations? Bugs shit all over your weed.
 

arch7699

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Here are my girls, I said I would post pics, so here they are. They should be a lot bigger, like I said the fight with the bugs, then the mold, took a toll on them, but I think it might workout or I might get something out of it yet, lol.

Sorry if the photos are a bit unclear, it's hard to take pics through the semi opened door of the tent, they stink too much to take them out, lol. While it is legal to grow four plants, the landlord wouldn't appreciate it, lol. Some of the pics are doubles and I snapped 3 of one of the pots with two plants in it.

So, I grew one HawaiinXHaze, and 3 Bubblegum plants two in one pot. I realize the pics aren't very good, but that's best I could do, lol.
Those are nice looking plants. But have you ever considered topping or training your plants to get a better yield? The "Christmas Tree" shape is meant for outdoors because of the arc of the sun. This Blue Cheese is three times the size of the other plants in the room and they were all planted at the same time. But the other plants are similar in appearance after being topped twice. And doing that dramatically increases yields every time. This one is like a 43 inch shrub at 30 days into flowering. I'll have 4 big center buds instead of one. It's so strong I had to take clones. I haven't done cloning in years.
 

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DJCA

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Those are nice looking plants. But have you ever considered topping or training your plants to get a better yield? The "Christmas Tree" shape is meant for outdoors because of the arc of the sun. This Blue Cheese is three times the size of the other plants in the room and they were all planted at the same time. But the other plants are similar in appearance after being topped twice. And doing that dramatically increases yields every time. This one is like a 43 inch shrub at 30 days into flowering. I'll have 4 big center buds instead of one. It's so strong I had to take clones. I haven't done cloning in years.
Nice plants, Ive grown some like that , or even bigger than that. Once I had a pure hawaiin sativa strain and those plants get big. I had to lean over sideways because it was too tall for the tent. They were great genetics, got them from Marc Emery's mail order seeds way back when. The result was like huge budes that grew strait up from the side of the plant, best weed ever. My problem right now is that the plants are much smaller than anticipated, I suspect the fungus gnats infestation, which I beat, with Neem oil and DE, set them back quite a bit. The genetics of the seeds I bought were poor quality, didn't have the vigorous growth I'm accustomed to. The plants seem small and are maturing way too quickly.

I think if I get a chance to grow again, I'll treat the soil for to kill the gnats that came with the soil before I even plant the seeds, and I have to remember to add dolomite lime to the soil mix this time because it helps the plant absorb more nutrients, provides calcium, and hlpe with the PH. The lime is alakaline, while the feed is acidic and it balances it off, allowing the plant to absorb more nutrients and grow faster. I wish I could find the pics of those huge plants I grew before. If I don't get bud rot, which is a common problem with the Bubblegum strain, I should get a few ounces, but nothing like what I harvested last time. The plants are much smaller, shitting genetics and gotta watch that Promix, which is supposed to be sterile, but now comes infested with fungus gnats, which complicates things.

Nice pics, I'll post some of mine when they get closer to finishing.

What kind of fertilizer are you using
 

DJCA

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Are you talking about bug infestations? Bugs shit all over your weed.
The fungus gnats, the bug infestation you are referring to, came with the Promix "sterilized" soil I purchased. Didn't realize it until I started seeing them flying around. Like I said in my previous post, I managed to kill them with Neem oil and DE. They are completely gone, but the treatments gave my plants a bit of a beating, set them back a bit. Never had to deal with that before. And where I live, the air humidity outside is almost 100%, so for the first time, Ive had to make sure the air is dried out, to avoid mold issues. I think in the end, I'll get something for my trouble, but it will be a much smaller harvest that what I am accustomed to. I have many years of experience growing, so it's a bit of a disappointment, the seeds were probably copies of copies of the original strain and lacked the vigor of previous plants I grew, the seed industry has really gone downhill.
 

Corso312

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This only works 4 months out of the year.. When I buy bags of soil this time of the year I take em outside and dump em in a pots and stir em up.. Any gnats fly out and die in the frigid air. Let em sit out for a night and them bring em inside.
 

DJCA

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Really ya i just use flora series by i hydro grow all my garden veg with it too. Ya it probably was it had almost no water but i really think the 4 ph fried it lol i feel like id like to try replicating on another plant just 3 days before flush haha.
Fertilizer tends to be acidic, too much of it ends-up blocking the plant form absorbing the nutrients, creates imbalances, so its like the plant is actually starving when you give it too much food. A common mistake with new enthusiastic growers. To counteract the acidity, it's always a good idea to mix in some dolomite lime in your potting mix, it brings up the PH, and makes the nutriens more available to the plant, always worked for me. If you put too much limestone in your mix then you end-up with alkaline soil which isns't any better. The trick is to balance your potting mix so that you can feed your plants as much as possible without turning the soil acidic and toxic. By raising sloghtly raising the PH of the soil and adding calcium (dolomite lime), when you had the acidic fertilizer it balances out the PH of the soil. I'm saying all this, but I forgot to had the limestone to my mix this time and I can see the difference. Have you tried raw unsulfured molasses? It's full of trace elements, copper, iron, magnesium, calcium, and it naturally contains sulfur to control mold and fungus growth. Some of the brands add sulfur to preserve the molasses, but you don't want to use that kind, only natural raw untreated molasses, about one table spoon per gallon. It also increases beneficial bacteria growth and speeds up flower productions, it even has vitamin B in it. works great.
 

DJCA

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This only works 4 months out of the year.. When I buy bags of soil this time of the year I take em outside and dump em in a pots and stir em up.. Any gnats fly out and die in the frigid air. Let em sit out for a night and them bring em inside.
Sounds like a great idea, I was thinking I'd soak the soils a few times with a Neem oil solution and flush it out before I use the leftover bag of Promix, those damn bugs are a pian to deal with you. When I first started grwing many years ago, I use to gather soil from outsite and mix sand, top soil, and limestone to create my potting soil. Then, I finally gave up using commercial potting mix to avoid bugs, but I still got bugs, lol. What a pain.
 

Kdoggy

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Fertilizer tends to be acidic, too much of it ends-up blocking the plant form absorbing the nutrients, creates imbalances, so its like the plant is actually starving when you give it too much food. A common mistake with new enthusiastic growers. To counteract the acidity, it's always a good idea to mix in some dolomite lime in your potting mix, it brings up the PH, and makes the nutriens more available to the plant, always worked for me. If you put too much limestone in your mix then you end-up with alkaline soil which isns't any better. The trick is to balance your potting mix so that you can feed your plants as much as possible without turning the soil acidic and toxic. By raising sloghtly raising the PH of the soil and adding calcium (dolomite lime), when you had the acidic fertilizer it balances out the PH of the soil. I'm saying all this, but I forgot to had the limestone to my mix this time and I can see the difference. Have you tried raw unsulfured molasses? It's full of trace elements, copper, iron, magnesium, calcium, and it naturally contains sulfur to control mold and fungus growth. Some of the brands add sulfur to preserve the molasses, but you don't want to use that kind, only natural raw untreated molasses, about one table spoon per gallon. It also increases beneficial bacteria growth and speeds up flower productions, it even has vitamin B in it. works great.
Ya thats interesting only thing is i grow deep water culture and bucket ran low on water when i was on holidays neighbor got lazy checking on it basically lol. I find deep water i never get bugs easy to fix issues with ph but does take daily monitoring. Im going to build a new grow room in summer so i can run rdwc instead then i can run a huge reservoir so that wont matter going forward. Once my plants get big they easily drink a gallon plus of water a day.
 

arch7699

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Nice plants, Ive grown some like that , or even bigger than that. Once I had a pure hawaiin sativa strain and those plants get big. I had to lean over sideways because it was too tall for the tent. They were great genetics, got them from Marc Emery's mail order seeds way back when. The result was like huge budes that grew strait up from the side of the plant, best weed ever. My problem right now is that the plants are much smaller than anticipated, I suspect the fungus gnats infestation, which I beat, with Neem oil and DE, set them back quite a bit. The genetics of the seeds I bought were poor quality, didn't have the vigorous growth I'm accustomed to. The plants seem small and are maturing way too quickly.

I think if I get a chance to grow again, I'll treat the soil for to kill the gnats that came with the soil before I even plant the seeds, and I have to remember to add dolomite lime to the soil mix this time because it helps the plant absorb more nutrients, provides calcium, and hlpe with the PH. The lime is alakaline, while the feed is acidic and it balances it off, allowing the plant to absorb more nutrients and grow faster. I wish I could find the pics of those huge plants I grew before. If I don't get bud rot, which is a common problem with the Bubblegum strain, I should get a few ounces, but nothing like what I harvested last time. The plants are much smaller, shitting genetics and gotta watch that Promix, which is supposed to be sterile, but now comes infested with fungus gnats, which complicates things.

Nice pics, I'll post some of mine when they get closer to finishing.

What kind of fertilizer are you using
Fox Farm Trio (Grow Big, Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom). Cal Mag Plus. Spraying of Neem Oil solution on the foliage until flowering well under way. Using plant-based dish detergent as an emulsifier for the Neem. I use tap water from a water company but try to keep the PH right by testing the liquids and the soil. It's necessary to add acid because my tap water is steeply alkaline. I have to let it sit out to percolate out the chlorine and it has more iron in it than I'm comfortable with. But I can't do anything about the iron. Here are some pictures of my June harvest and my December 2019 harvest. You may appreciate that these plants are heavy on Hawaiian heritage. G13 Haze. Right now I Have 2 G13 Haze and 3 Blue Cheese. I do five plants at a time in 5 gallon pots with pro mix myco in a closet 66 inches wide. I use a 400W lamp alternating between the MH and HPS bulbs. 10 years of pumping out potent bud in my closet grow. I've got the ventilation and temperature control perfected. The room is heated when the light is off because the out vent fan runs constantly and passively pulls cold air into the room from outside even when the intake fans shut off by timer. Neem Oil is a wonder that I can't stop raving about. Absolutely prevents rust and other fungus diseases from attacking the leaves. Before Neem I had problems with black mold, powdery mildew, and leaf rust. What I hate about them is that even if you bring the situation under control you can't cure the plant. Just when you think you've got black mold beat you'll see it on more leaves.
 

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DJCA

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Thanks for the info and for the pics. My camera is starting ti take foggy pics. Mine are coming along fine. I stopped the neem oil, no more bugs and I control the humidity levels and ventilation more closely to avoid mold: although, I'm growing magic mushrooms in my bathroom. I was a little worried about introducing mold to my plants, since they are not that far away. But it works-out, the bathroom stays cool and humid and in the the other room, I am able to control humidity and temperature, quite a balancing act, lol.

Your buds are nice. My plants didn't get really very big, from 18 inches to 2 feet. They seemed to mature a little too fast for my taste, they started maturing after 2 months. I started with dry seeds on October 6 and they look almost ready to harvest, but the buds didn't get a chance to get very big. Big enough I guess, but not as big as what I am use to. I use to use mostly molasses and a bit of organic fertilizer called Thrive. I don't have any right now, but ordered some for the next time because that shit is amazing and you don't need to use anything else. Buds five times bigger in a few weeks, completely organic, but man that shit makes a difference. Amazing buds, the molasses make them come out sweet, and the Thrive fertilizer is like magic, don't much at all, but amazing results.

I'm going to try what I did last time, mix in some bone meal at the bottom of a large bucket, then fill the rest with promix and a bit of limestone to help control the PH, then I'll use the Thrive and molasses, planning on starting two large White Widow plants as soon as these are finished. Problem is I like to cure them as they slowly die after I flush them and leave them to dry out while they are still in the pots in the tent, takes an etra 3 weeks, but they just ooze resin when they slowly dry out. They respond that way. Just gotta watch for mold, lol. Practicle to do it in the tent for the odour control.

I hope I have the time to grow the other 2, they will produce 10 times what these 4 little plants are going to give me, if I don't get bud rot, lol.
 

DJCA

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Fox Farm Trio (Grow Big, Tiger Bloom and Big Bloom). Cal Mag Plus. Spraying of Neem Oil solution on the foliage until flowering well under way. Using plant-based dish detergent as an emulsifier for the Neem. I use tap water from a water company but try to keep the PH right by testing the liquids and the soil. It's necessary to add acid because my tap water is steeply alkaline. I have to let it sit out to percolate out the chlorine and it has more iron in it than I'm comfortable with. But I can't do anything about the iron. Here are some pictures of my June harvest and my December 2019 harvest. You may appreciate that these plants are heavy on Hawaiian heritage. G13 Haze. Right now I Have 2 G13 Haze and 3 Blue Cheese. I do five plants at a time in 5 gallon pots with pro mix myco in a closet 66 inches wide. I use a 400W lamp alternating between the MH and HPS bulbs. 10 years of pumping out potent bud in my closet grow. I've got the ventilation and temperature control perfected. The room is heated when the light is off because the out vent fan runs constantly and passively pulls cold air into the room from outside even when the intake fans shut off by timer. Neem Oil is a wonder that I can't stop raving about. Absolutely prevents rust and other fungus diseases from attacking the leaves. Before Neem I had problems with black mold, powdery mildew, and leaf rust. What I hate about them is that even if you bring the situation under control you can't cure the plant. Just when you think you've got black mold beat you'll see it on more leaves.
Nice plants man! I wish I could find the pics from my previous grow, lol.
 

athlete

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I guess they didn't receive the payment I sent out before Thanksgiving week. I'm assuming this because I haven't received a reply via email.

I get the feeling that seed banks don't give a shit.
 

Kdoggy

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I guess they didn't receive the payment I sent out before Thanksgiving week. I'm assuming this because I haven't received a reply via email.

I get the feeling that seed banks don't give a shit.
Its probably better their garbage seeds anyways you need to order from a reputable seedbank and i assure you their reviews on their website are bs.
 

DJCA

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Its probably better their garbage seeds anyways you need to order from a reputable seedbank and i assure you their reviews on their website are bs.
That's right, Pacific seeds are pretty bad. It took them 9 weeks to finally send them to me, it took them 3 weeks to reply to my emails, and even when I got the seeds, they were very small, they looked more like grape seeds. I didn't even use them, $200 in the garbage. I did ask for a refund, but I never got a reply to my email. You might as well pretend you never ordered from them, it's a waste of time and money.
 

Willy B. Goode

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I've ordered from PSB twice, in Feb. 2019 then again in Dec. 2019. No complaints, a good experience overall with germ. rate and plant quality. However, I'm wondering, after reading all these recent posts, if I was just lucky. I've ordered from Nirvana and had a good experience with them so I think I will stick with them as the quality and price definitely leave PSB in the dust. Looking at Great Lakes as well.
 

DJCA

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I've ordered from PSB twice, in Feb. 2019 then again in Dec. 2019. No complaints, a good experience overall with germ. rate and plant quality. However, I'm wondering, after reading all these recent posts, if I was just lucky. I've ordered from Nirvana and had a good experience with them so I think I will stick with them as the quality and price definitely leave PSB in the dust. Looking at Great Lakes as well.
Good for you. Do you work for them?

I ordered seeds from them, took more than 2 months for the seeds to get here, but they didn't even look like marijuana seeds, grape maybe.....
 

DJCA

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Here, these are the plants I grew with Cropking seeds, better service, but the plants were a bit smaller than what I expected.
 

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