xtsho
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Most of them are extremely healthy. These just got back from Tokyo after representing the United States in the Olympics. They have a right to celebrate all those gold medals they brought back home.
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nuskool89
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The smallpox vaccine has some really interesting history and is actually considered the first “vaccine virus”
The vaccine for covid is drastically different than any of those vaccines you mention, many going through several iterations to be made safer
DIY-HP-LED
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The ICUs are full of people younger than them, most will come down with covid just after they get back home, bringing delta to their communities and families. Harley's are an expensive toy for middle aged biker wannabes with piss poor lifestyles and the place is full of them. The last time they were dealing with regular covid, not the much more contagious delta variant.Most of them are extremely healthy. These just got back from Tokyo after representing the United States in the Olympics. They have a right to celebrate all those gold medals they brought back home.
We had these same concerns a year ago and for whatever reason, it never really materialized. I think maybe thirty or so with no hospitalizations? I suspect the event will be twice as big as last year though...
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xtsho
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I'm aware of the smallpox vaccine history, cowpox, women milking cows, etc... and that most vaccines go through much more study and trials. I never get vaccinated for the flu but Covid is a different beast so I got the vaccine. The effects of Covid are known. Long term effects of the vaccine are unknown. I chose to go with what we already know rather than what we don't know.
DIY-HP-LED
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We'll see how it goes with delta this time around, the hospitalization rate depends on the vaxx rate of those attending IMHO. Delta is way more contagious and vaxxed people can spread it too, there will be no distancing or masks, I think the unvaxxed are gonna be toast this year. Delta is filling hospitals with unvaxxed younger people and children are catching it now too, this wasn't the case with the original wild strain. This leads me to conclude that this strain is more virulent, as well as much more contagious. Older unvaxxed people are at severe risk from delta IMHO.
I'd like for people to learn lessons without paying such a high price, but the tribalism is just too strong.
xtsho
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Texas GOP Official Mocked COVID Five Days Before He Died of Virus
H. Scott Apley’s Facebook page was filled with anti-mask, anti-vaccine content until he was suddenly hospitalized on Sunday.
A GOP official from Texas who regularly espoused anti-vaccine and anti-mask views online has died from COVID-19, five days after posting a meme on Facebook questioning the wisdom of getting inoculated against COVID.
DIY-HP-LED
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28% of people who are unvaccinated favor a vaccine mandate! They just need to be told what to do, @ 9:52 in the video below, according to Donny Deutsch.
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Republican Leaders Throw In The Towel When It Comes To Covid | MSNBC
Former Baltimore Health Commissioner Dr. Leana Wen, marketing and branding expert Donny Deutsch, and investigative reporter for the New York Times Nick Confessore discuss Republicans being divided on vaccine messaging as their states become overwhelmed with covid cases.
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Republican Leaders Throw In The Towel When It Comes To Covid | MSNBC
Former Baltimore Health Commissioner Dr. Leana Wen, marketing and branding expert Donny Deutsch, and investigative reporter for the New York Times Nick Confessore discuss Republicans being divided on vaccine messaging as their states become overwhelmed with covid cases.
DIY-HP-LED
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Nothing you can do about it, it makes ya laugh and cry at the same time. The Greeks called it tragicomedy and the Trump years and their aftermath are full of it and irony, another Greek concept.
nuskool89
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That’s interesting (the first part) as the first documented mass vaccination attempt of smallpox was in the 1950s from what I’d read
The Spanish doctor he references must have communicated with Dr. Edward Jenner (English doctor who first discovered/tested the cowpox connection in the late 18th century.) That does actually line up with the 1802 date mentioned in the video. Pretty neat
The second part of the video raises the question considering limited supply; do countries send first doses to developing nations, or keep booster doses for their own if the (scientists and doctors, not pharmaceutical companies) determine they’re needed?
It was a super spreader event that led to well over 600 infections in my state.
Budzbuddha
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PJ Diaz
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Um, I voted for Biden. That doesn't mean that I love everything he does or that I won't be critical of him.
Budzbuddha
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Here I decided to add some important info … which can be used throughout RIU .
No matter the forum.
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These are Cipolla's five fundamental laws of stupidity:
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Turns out there are five laws to Stupidity :
These are Cipolla's five fundamental laws of stupidity:
- Always and inevitably each of us underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
- The probability that a given person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic possessed by that person.A person is stupid if they cause damage to another person or group of people without experiencing personal gain, or even worse causing damage to themselves in the process. ( like this thread …. )
- Non-stupid people always underestimate the harmful potential of stupid people; they constantly forget that at any time anywhere, and in any circumstance, dealing with or associating themselves with stupid individuals invariably constitutes a costly error.
- A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person there is.
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PJ Diaz
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There are more employers, including government employers, making it mandatory every day.
Jimdamick
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I was thinking the other day while looking at the bills that I received from my insurance company, stating how much they were charged by the hospital & rehab facility for the 6 weeks that I was hospitalized, and that was $22,500 just for the rooms, not including testing (blood work/MRI's/CAT scans/medicines & Dr fees.
I figure it totalled around $30,000 and I'm not done yet.
I'm seeing a cardiologist now because of damage to my lungs and a gastrointestinal Dr because I developed anemia which could be caused by internal bleeding, which apparently I have because they detected blood in my stool (Nice
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Anyway, my point is that it's very, very expensive to be treated for the COVID-19/Delta viruses and if you don't have decent insurance (I have), you are royally fucked (good thing the Pubs failed at eliminating Obamacare, could you imagine if they succeeded?)
Then to be considered is how many people lost their insurance due to losing their jobs as a result of the viruses.
But, the insurance companies are going to eat the millions & millions & millions of dollars they have to fork over to pay the bills, right?
And the hospital won't have to charge more to make up for the cost of treating the uninsured, right?
Wrong. The insurance companies are going raise their already exorbitant fees for insurance & the hospitals will do the same to make-up for the uninsured.
The final cost of this Pandemic in lives and the economic devastation is has wrought & will contine to cause is really unimaginable.
I figure it totalled around $30,000 and I'm not done yet.
I'm seeing a cardiologist now because of damage to my lungs and a gastrointestinal Dr because I developed anemia which could be caused by internal bleeding, which apparently I have because they detected blood in my stool (Nice
)Anyway, my point is that it's very, very expensive to be treated for the COVID-19/Delta viruses and if you don't have decent insurance (I have), you are royally fucked (good thing the Pubs failed at eliminating Obamacare, could you imagine if they succeeded?)
Then to be considered is how many people lost their insurance due to losing their jobs as a result of the viruses.
But, the insurance companies are going to eat the millions & millions & millions of dollars they have to fork over to pay the bills, right?
And the hospital won't have to charge more to make up for the cost of treating the uninsured, right?
Wrong. The insurance companies are going raise their already exorbitant fees for insurance & the hospitals will do the same to make-up for the uninsured.
The final cost of this Pandemic in lives and the economic devastation is has wrought & will contine to cause is really unimaginable.
PJ Diaz
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That article you posted is one of the reasons that I've home schooled my kids for years prior to the pandemic. This isn't a new stance for me.Well they're not mandatory, so why are you focusing on them instead of the ones that are? Give ol' Jennie McCarthy a call, she has several phd's and is a real expert.
State-by-State: Vaccinations Required for Public School Kindergarten - ProCon.org
Find out which vaccines are mandated for public school kindergarten entry as of August 2021, along with links for each state's requirements.vaccines.procon.org
PJ Diaz
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Yesterday I looked into how much my employer pays for me to have insurance for my family. It's over $30k a year. I'd be perfectly happy to be cashed out on that instead.I was thinking the other day while looking at the bills that I received from my insurance company, stating how much they were charged by the hospital & rehab facility for the 6 weeks that I was hospitalized, and that was $22,500 just for the rooms, not including testing (blood work/MRI's/CAT scans/medicines & Dr fees.
I figure it totalled around $30,000 and I'm not done yet.
I'm seeing a cardiologist now because of damage to my lungs and a gastrointestinal Dr because I developed anemia which could be caused by internal bleeding, which apparently I have because they detected blood in my stool (Nice
Anyway, my point is that it's very, very expensive to be treated for the COVID-19/Delta viruses and if you don't have decent insurance (I have), you are royally fucked (good thing the Pubs failed at eliminating Obamacare, could you imagine if they succeeded?)
Then to be considered is how many people lost their insurance due to losing their jobs as a result of the viruses.
But, the insurance companies are going to eat the millions & millions & millions of dollars they have to fork over to pay the bills, right?
And the hospital won't have to charge more to make up for the cost of treating the uninsured, right?
Wrong. The insurance companies are going raise their already exorbitant fees for insurance & the hospitals will do the same to make-up for the uninsured.
The final cost of this Pandemic in lives and the economic devastation is has wrought & will contine to cause is really unimaginable.
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