Pandemic 2020

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Fogdog

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We might be sick of the reality presented to us, but none the less we have to deal with it. Fortunately, the wise now have options, a year ago we had none, we also have a lot of experience with this monster and fortunately it didn't make this kind of adaptation earlier in the pandemic, also the original mRNA vaccines were so effective they can still be used, even with new variants.

Another winter of masks and distancing will not be popular, but with omicron there is no other way besides vaccination to keep the hospitals from over flowing.
As much as I dread the day when the live virus crosses my threshold, I really dread the idea that we might go back to distance learning for my high schooler.

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What we are seeing now is every bit as bad as what we saw last year. True, we can now protect workers and kids from the worst of the disease but I can see how our health departments might be justified if they ordered school closures. Given how much better he is doing with in-class learning, I'm willing to risk it with him. Not my call but I most selfishly want him to finish his junior year at school.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Good luck everyone. I hope you don’t get it and if you do a mild case. I am boosted and keeping masked up myself but I go to work at a cancer center and although people aren’t talking about , it the nurses in particular look totally stressed and depressed .This is never going to end. With this and climate change we are seeing the end of the world . It’s too late.

Like Rev Al Sharpton said, this isn’t something made up for entertainment purposes like in the movies we have been watching over the years... this is reality.

I heard some people are talking about getting ready with population mass suicide solution to make the end easier once people can finally come to terms with it.
Kinda like in Soylent green.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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As much as I dread the day when the live virus crosses my threshold, I really dread the idea that we might go back to distance learning for my high schooler.

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What we are seeing now is every bit as bad as what we saw last year. True, we can now protect workers and kids from the worst of the disease but I can see how our health departments might be justified if they ordered school closures. Given how much better he is doing with in-class learning, I'm willing to risk it with him. Not my call but I most selfishly want him to finish his junior year at school.
We don't know how susceptible kids are to omicron, but since it's as contagious as chicken pox I imagine it will run through the schools pretty quick. Getting all school aged kids vaxxed and staff boosted should help, some places are starting school holidays early. Most kids need the structure, discipline and expectations that school provides, as well as a social environment to develop those skills too. For most people education is the biggest issue, but this time ya gotta crack down hard on the anti maskers who want to endanger children, fuck them. You'll won't reopen a school with omicron, if those idiots are around causing trouble, threatening and intimidating folks.

As with so many other things in this pandemic Foggy, it will depend on the local hospitalization rate, when the hospitals fill things shut down everywhere, including schools. That is the metric we go by these days, some governments are forced into it and some try to get ahead of the curve. Medical staffs are near the end of their rope and there are shortages of trained people, this is more the limiting factor than beds or equipment. Antiviral medications might help with some of this, if they get approved and rolled out by the new year, Canada and America pre ordered large quantities.

 

canndo

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What's dumb is voting for someone just because they have a D or R in front of their name which is what many voters do. I might be a registered Democrat but I'm not voting for someone just because they're a Democrat.

One of the big problems in politics today is the Us vs Them mentality that prevents things from getting done. If it's an R it has to be bad. I find that thinking to be simplistic.

If you don't live in Oregon you're free to move here and vote for anyone you want.

In an ordinary world I would agree. But in a political atmosphere where we can be assured that any republican finds it unhealthy to think or speak against the grain of trumpism and more likely to be downright anti democracy I find it safest to vote for the D. Regardless of the particulars.
 

Fogdog

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We don't know how susceptible kids are to omicron, but since it's as contagious as chicken pox I imagine it will run through the schools pretty quick. Getting all school aged kids vaxxed and staff boosted should help, some places are starting school holidays early. Most kids need the structure, discipline and expectations that school provides, as well as a social environment to develop those skills too. For most people education is the biggest issue, but this time ya gotta crack down hard on the anti maskers who want to endanger children, fuck them. You'll won't reopen a school with omicron, if those idiots are around causing trouble, threatening and intimidating folks.

As with so many other things in this pandemic Foggy, it will depend on the local hospitalization rate, when the hospitals fill things shut down everywhere, including schools. That is the metric we go by these days, some governments are forced into it and some try to get ahead of the curve. Medical staffs are near the end of their rope and there are shortages of trained people, this is more the limiting factor than beds or equipment. Antiviral medications might help with some of this, if they get approved and rolled out by the new year, Canada and America pre ordered large quantities.

Just saying, I value my kids' ability to get a good start in life and only recently realized I was willing to risk his exposure at school in exchange for his getting a good public education and all the socialization, exposure to ideas, the ability to ask questions directly to the teacher and so forth. To be sure, I'm doing all I can to reduce risk but if avoiding Omicron were the highest priority, we'd have locked down a couple of weeks ago.
 

Sativied

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Just saying, I value my kids' ability to get a good start in life and only recently realized I was willing to risk his exposure at school in exchange for his getting a good public education and all the socialization, exposure to ideas, the ability to ask questions directly to the teacher and so forth. To be sure, I'm doing all I can to reduce risk but if avoiding Omicron were the highest priority, we'd have locked down a couple of weeks ago.
If everyone would attach the same value to education we'd surely be in less of a mess. Plus, we all know home schooled kids are the biggest weirdos.
 

CatHedral

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If everyone would attach the same value to education we'd surely be in less of a mess. Plus, we all know home schooled kids are the biggest weirdos.
Our right wing opposes spending money on education. One reason is that it is a lot of money that could otherwise be spent on something important, like border police.

The other is that an educated populace is harder to keep in the yoke. They get uppity.
 

mooray

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Education and modern republicanism have become opposing forces. They shouldn't be, such a mistake on their part. They worry about being left behind, so they take positions which leave them behind. What's the psychological condition where, if you're insanely worried that you'll fall of your bike, you instantly fall of your bike..? Whatever that is, they have it.
 

Jimdamick

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I've been without UI since the beginning of September
Is there not a McDonald's near you?
Or a Burger King?
Popeye's?
Wendy's?
KFC?
Tony's Pizzeria (There gotta be one of those)
Are there busses or bicycles available?
If you answer yes to any of my queries, you have no excuses unless your a cripple, right?
But your not are you?
Well, that tells me something about you.
You're fucking lazy & don't blame Biden.
Get a job & you wouldn't have to rely on a broken system or anyone else.
Simple (you can thank me later :) )
 
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CatHedral

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Education and modern republicanism have become opposing forces. They shouldn't be, such a mistake on their part. They worry about being left behind, so they take positions which leave them behind. What's the psychological condition where, if you're insanely worried that you'll fall of your bike, you instantly fall of your bike..? Whatever that is, they have it.
It’s deeper. They don’t wanna give one cent to (slur), and that includes rice and sand and bean (slur) as well. This is CRT in living color.
 

CatHedral

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Education and modern republicanism have become opposing forces. They shouldn't be, such a mistake on their part. They worry about being left behind, so they take positions which leave them behind. What's the psychological condition where, if you're insanely worried that you'll fall of your bike, you instantly fall of your bike..? Whatever that is, they have it.
Self-fulfilling prophecy?
 
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