Paradise Seeds

Prawn Connery

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Remember the Glowstarz/930C test seeds? They are about to start their second week of flowering. The run-to-waste system is now in place with all the plumbing hooked up. These plants should start to take off now that they are being auto-fed. The difference between an automated feeding schedule and hand-watering is like night and day. The plants now get 5x waterings in each 12-hour period. The lights have been turned up and are now pulling around 560W from the wall.

There was a short period of starvation when I transplanted into bigger pots and this was done on purpose to encourage the roots to fill the pots in search of nutrient. Once they were established, the auto waterings started and the plants bounced straight back

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Prawn Connery

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Glowstarz/930C test seeds will finish their first two weeks under 12/12 in a couple of days.

This is only five days after the last photos and the plants are taking over the tent! Let's hope they don't stretch too much more or I will need to do some judicious pruning. There are really only two plants I have to worry about that are showing distinct sativa tendencies, whereas the other three are much more compact.

I have confirmed that the mother of these plants is indeed the San Fernando Valley OG cut, but I'm waiting to hear what the father is. OG varieties that I've grown in the past have tended to stretch a little before filling in, so this wasn't entirey unexpected, but I'm wishing I had flowered these about a week earlier now, as they are growing very fast!

Absolutely no nutrient or light issues. Plants are healthy AF.

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Prawn Connery

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This photo is about a week old now, and shows the Rainbow Road at around Week 6 of flowering.

Starting to shape up nicely – should produce a good yield. You can see the sativa pheno popping its head up at the rear left while the more indica phenos are in the front. My personal pic #3 is on the middle left and you can see some really nice buds starting to form.

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Prawn Connery

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It's been two-and-a-half weeks since I updated the GlowStarz/930C test seeds. The plants stretched quite a bit during the first two weeks and were a bit slow to flower. I mentioned this to another grower friend who had grown out an SFV OG cross and he said he saw the same thing: quite a long stretch period with slow bud development.

Finally at the end of Week 3 the plants started to flower and they have now just finished Week 4 and are starting to smell and develope a few triches.

After the initial stretch I trimmed the plants to keep them in check and then decided to add some side-lighting to fill the under-canopy. So I added 60W of Buddies in two rows, phosphor-coated red and some 6500K strings.

The beauty of run-to-waste pots is you can pull them out of the tent at any time you want to uptdate it.
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Plants back in place.
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Prawn Connery

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I did a little plant shuffle while I had them out and placed the tallest, plant #1 in the middle with the next tallest plants, #2 and #3 at the rear and the two shortest at the front.

#5 is nearest, front left, and appears to be closest to the San Fernando Valley OG clone mother. It has a very strong coolmint/menthol smell with shorter internodes and quite a lot of early trichome development. At this stage it feels stickiest and smells most potent. it is also the most indica.

#2 is behind #5, back left, and is more sativa with a sweeter, fruity smell. moderate trichome development and the second-stretchiest.
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#4 is front right and has a coolmint-chocolate (very chocolate) smelll. It is bulkier than #5 but has less trichome development and is not as sticky. Behind #5 is #3, which is similar but has a slightly fruitier smell and is not as bulky.
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#1 is interesting as it stretched more than the others but looks like it is going to fill in nicely. It has a very fruity smell with almost no hint of the choc-mint smell of #4 and #5, but is quite sticky. It also has some nice trich development, similar to #5 – but that's where the similarities end, as it is the most sativa. Based on looks and smells, I'd say #5 is the SFV OG pheno, #1 leans towards whatever these were crossed with (Glowstarz is SVF OG Kush crossed with Gelato 33, but I'm not sure what the other side of this tst cross is - it may be related to G33 or not). The other three are more hybrid types with #2 leaning more towards the sativa side. #1 is quite sativa.
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PioneerValleyOG

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I've never had anything bad from Paradise Seeds, and I've grown and smoked most of the company's original catalogue. I've even become friends with breeder Luc Kroll over the past 20 years and in that time have been a test grower for strains including Swiss Bliss, Atomical Haze, Ice Cream, Opium, Nebulaze and Super Sensi Star (the last two were never released to the public). I've also grown Sensi Star, Nebula, Dutch Dragon, Sweet Purple, Beladonna, Acid and Wappa – as well as a few of my own crosses made with these genetics.

So after a small break from growing I decided it was time to try some of Luc's newer strains. I will be documenting a few different Paradise Seeds strains that have recently been released and I will be starting all the seeds. However, some of these strains will be going to other homes to finish flowering, so this should be an interesting thread with different strains and growers all doing their thing.

If anyone wants to share their experiences with Paradise Seeds, please post them here! Anyone can join this thread – all welcome.

Initially I will document the following strains: Rainbow Road, Tangerine Sorbet, Wappa, Sunset Paradise – and maybe one or two others.


Rainbow Road

This is one I've been waiting to try for a while. It's described as Paradise Seeds' biggest yielding sativa. I like sativas :bigjoint:

Strain description is in the link above, but this is a 60/40 sativa/indica that is a cross of Hindu Kush and Strawberry Sativa. Indoor yields are described as "monsterous", which you would expect for a 10-week strain.

I soaked 5 feminised seeds in a shot glass of water, and the next day they had all sunk to the bottom (unviable seeds usually float), after which I transferred them to some damp paper towel on top of my coffee machine (which keeps them warm and hastens propagation). Within 48 hours, all 5 seeds had sprouted and grown tails, and just two days later, all the seeds had popped out of their new coco homes and were doing well.

For the record, these seedings were started in straight coco with Hygen nutrients under a High Light 420 Gen2 3500K LED running at 100-150W in a small tent.

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After 10 days they looked like this. There was already a bit of variation showing, with the middle plant being a bit more stretchy-sativa than the others, whilst the bottom right plant mutated almost immediately, growing three main stems that became apparent only after it had grown a bit more. Unfortunately I gave them all a hot-shot of nutrient after this and a few leaves suffered and the plants slowed down for a few days until I had flushed and they had recovered. That's what you get for not growing for a while . . .

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A week later, they were back on track with only a slight amount of burn to some of the leaves, mainly on the more sativa pheno.
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And three days later all the plants were at about three weeks of veg since popping up. There isn't too much variation at this stage, but there are some sublte differences in growth, with one particular plant showing short, squat growth (the mutated plant, see post below this one), and another showing its legs (the sativa), whilst the remaining three plants are in-between. All the plants have nice thick main stems and the growth and leaf structure appear to lean a little more to the indica side than sativa, IMO. Under 18/6 these plants are pretty average feeders, although they really seem to have taken off in the past few days and there are no more signs of nutrient excess. They are getting a bit of extra Cal-Mag and I am setting the pH at about 5.8 going in and measuring up to 6.5 coming out – which is right where it should be. pH will slowly rise in a heathy system as the plants use up their nutrient. Allowing pH drift enables all nutrients to be available to the plant at different times.
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Mutant indica pheno top left.
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Sativa pheno top right.
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So these plants are three weeks old from seed?
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Remember the Glowstarz/930C test seeds? They are about to start their second week of flowering. The run-to-waste system is now in place with all the plumbing hooked up. These plants should start to take off now that they are being auto-fed. The difference between an automated feeding schedule and hand-watering is like night and day. The plants now get 5x waterings in each 12-hour period. The lights have been turned up and are now pulling around 560W from the wall.

There was a short period of starvation when I transplanted into bigger pots and this was done on purpose to encourage the roots to fill the pots in search of nutrient. Once they were established, the auto waterings started and the plants bounced straight back

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Very healthy beautiful plants brotha. Just awesomesauce !!
 

Prawn Connery

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The Tangerine Sorbet are not doing too well as the grower had a faulty pH pen and the pH got as high as 8+ which locked out the zinc and alerted us to the problem. The plants are recovering, but it may be a couple of weeks until they go into flower.

The Rainbow Road are still lookong great and I will try to get some update photos this week. The grower is happy with them and I will get my pick of the clones when they are finished – after a sample smoke, of course!
 

Prawn Connery

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Glowstarz/930C update. These were taken at 5 1/2 weeks. I must admit, this strain seems to be quite slow to flower. The original Glowstarz is described as an 8-9 week strain, but at this rate they are going to take longer.

I ended up putting in a lower platform to keep the plants out of the lights as I was running out of head room. This also sits the Buddies side-lighting up a bit.
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Sativa dom #1 in the middle is showing the most promise.
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#4 is plenty frosty but also a bit leafy.
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Again, lots of leaf but not as much bud production as I would have expected at this stage of growth. You never know, they may surprise me . . . but they'd better a get a hurry on! Healthy as fuck, so there's no question about the envrionment.
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Prawn Connery

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Another update on the Rainbow Road now at almost 9 weeks of flowering.

While the photos are a bit shitty, you can really get an idea of the size of some of these buds.
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Close-ups. Still a couple of weeks to go by the looks of things, but I'm not sure if these were taken around the same time as the room photo above, where they look a bit more advanced.
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Prawn Connery

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Seven weeks of 12/12 and these Glowstarz/930C are just starting to really flower. #1 and #3 look the most promising and are the most sativa. #1 will finish sooner as #3 is looking a bit hazey in terms of bud structure, with nice long branchs of sticky white pistils. #4 has the thickest stems and more of an indica structure while #5 and #2 look like write-offs with poor bud developement and lots of leaf.

Having said that, #5 has the most evil smell and is sticky as fuck. I took a sample of #4 tonight just to get an idea of what these will be like. Two weeks early but just a taster.

From left to right: #5, #1 (tall in the middle), #4, and at the very back right you can see some of the taller buds of #3
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#1. Bottom right is a bud from #4
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At least another 2-3 weeks to go for all of these.
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Moflow

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Paradise Seeds. Whiteberry.
What a palaver.
Just over two months wait to travel 800km? ~ 13km a day. I coulda walked to the shop to pick them up and walked back home again in that time lol
They arrived this morning.
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They'll have to join the queue to grow.
I've 4 x Chongs Choice La Amnesia seed plants on the go now and a Chongs Choice clone plus Gelat OG's, Malawi's an NL#5 and a very odd Blueberry pheno from a freebie seed, no name of Company on pkt that is stretching more than the Ace Seeds Malawi sativas ?
Here's the Blueberry early flowering. I hadda weave the branches into itself to keep it manageable. It looked like a storks nest after I'd finished lol
Look at the internode spacing for a supposed 80% Indica. Maybe it's a Thai sativa pheno?

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Prawn Connery

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I've 4 x Chongs Choice La Amnesia seed plants on the go now and a Chongs Choice clone plus Gelat OG's, Malawi's an NL#5 and a very odd Blueberry pheno from a freebie seed, no name of Company on pkt that is stretching more than the Ace Seeds Malawi sativas ?
Here's the Blueberry early flowering. I hadda weave the branches into itself to keep it manageable. It looked like a storks nest after I'd finished lol
Look at the internode spacing for a supposed 80% Indica. Maybe it's a Thai sativa pheno?
There have always been sativa pheno Blueberries. Most of the best Bluerries, including the original DJ Short version, seemed to lean to the sativa side.

Let me know what that LA Amnesia is like – I have heard good things about it.

OK, the Tangerine Sorbet is back on track! After most of the plants got smashed with a zinc deficiency due to a faulty pH pen (no excuse!), my mate has got the girls growing nicely.

But first, the plant that started it all: Wappa
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Behind the Wapp is one of the Tangerine Sorbet. Here are three others. You can see the one at the end is still suffering a little bit, but it's much better than before.
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Here are the last two Tangerine Sorbet (seven in total). Again, you can see a little bit of nutrient damage to the plant in the foreground, even though it has mostly grown out of it now and just in time to flower.
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This one is perhaps the most interesting as it has really thick stems but retains the sativa-skunk structure that Wappa is renowned for.
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We love how uniform all the plants are – I think there should definitely be a keeper in every 5 pack. This is the strain we're all most excited about.
 

Prawn Connery

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Nice thread to read and as mentioned, damn healthy looking plants mate.

Paradise Seeds/Luc was the second vendor I grow seeds from back in circa 1999, even have the catalogue from back then.

Have a good weekend...
Cheers mate. Well most of the test seeds (Glowstarz/930C) are a bit of a write-off at this stage and while the terpene production from nearly all of them is amazing, the growth structure leaves a lot to be desired. There might be one or two in there I'll grow again, but that's why they're test seeds, as I doubt these will ever make it to market. My guess is Luc ran these against the Glowstarz (same SFVOG mother, different partners) and the Glowstarz came out on top and were released to the public. But Luc's son was interested in this cross so I agreed to try them.

The Tangerine Sorbet, on the other hand, are so uniform and so similar to their mother (Wappa) that it is hard to tell them apart. We will definitely be growing this one out again and it may be hard to decide on a keeper given how similar they all are. We already know the quality of the mother plant, so if they are anything like their mum they will be awesome!

One of the deals I have with the other growers is that if I find something I like in their grows, then I get to keep it. It's a good, collaborative way to source keeper clones while still being able to grow out decent numbers of plants to get a good selection.

The Rainbow Road have now been harvested and unfortunately I didn't get a chance to go back and take more photos, but we will be sampling the produce soon and the grow looked pretty impressive, so it will be intersting to see what we end up with.
 

Eastsidesmoke

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Would be super interested in your thoughts on the smoke report. I have been close to buying the new Paradise seeds and this thread has been awesome to read thanks!
 

Prawn Connery

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Would be super interested in your thoughts on the smoke report. I have been close to buying the new Paradise seeds and this thread has been awesome to read thanks!
I gave three of the plants a haircut last week and smoked some of the scissor hash and it was nice! But it's hard to tell which plant is which when you do that, so I'll need to wait until they are all harvested before I can post a smoke report.

Here are the "before" photos – these are over a week old now as I haven't updated this thread. These photos are at exactly 8 weeks of flowering, and some of the tops were already ripe, but not that big. #1 was the best of the early finishers and I will keep her for another round.

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Number #5 on the front left and #4 front right
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#4 in the front, #1 behind it and #3 at the very back right-hand side
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Here is what I trimmed from the tops of three of the five plants. Left to right: #1, #2 and #5. #1 had the best bud structre and #2 and #5 were very leafy. I won't be keeping those two.
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And here is what the tent looks like from about 10 days ago
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The big plant in the middle is #3 and it is a monster! I'm not sure what it will smoke like, but it is so much bigger than all the other plants and looks like it will flower for 10-11 weeks. Maybe even more. Some serious sativa genes in this one
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CaptainCAVEMAN

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Greetings Mr.Connery, great thread I've enjoyed it immensely.

Long ago around 2008-2009 I got some Magic Bud seeds from Paradise, that strain was fucking amazing! I've been waiting for it to reappear with no luck.

What strain currently available at Paradise would come closest to Magic Bud?
You seemed like the guy to ask, thanks for any help on this matter.
 
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