PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

v12xjs said:

Thanks for all the positve comments you guys.

Granita will be on plain water from now on, but I still expect a little more fattening in the next 2 weeks. The scope shows a few amber trichs already but there's still plenty of clear ones so it still isn't worth cutting down the smaller 9th cola. Not just yet anyway.
I'm still amazed at how little yellowing there is at such an advanced stage. I wish I could have also tried this strain without the additional light to give me a comparison. I will be looking in on the place I got the seed from later today and that grow has only 2700K so it should give me some idea of the difference the blue light makes. I'll post up on that later.
I usually go straight from grow to harvest and cure but this time I'm going to give Granita 48 hours darkness before chopping. I've read that this ensures all the goodies are in the buds and not the stalks. Anyone got any input on doing this?

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I've heard that it makes the plant think that its dieing and makes it produce more resin , when you chop make sure its dark so that it doesn't start taking up any thing that it has stored in the roots

When I get my grow going I might take a clone and find a computer case and stick a clone in there , veg it then flower it and try diffrent things out to see what will give the best result

giving 48hrs light before the chop seems reasonable, light does degrade THC. Let her muster up all she can before you decide to harvest.

Thanks for the input guys. Most appreciated.

I spoke to a seed breeder today who has tried the darkness thing and he said it didn't improve potency at all and just made the plants stretch and look bad. I respect his opinion and have decided against trying it now.
The good news is that I'll be smoking Granita 3 days earlier than I thought

Also looked in on a nice scrog setup with a couple of Ice Cream plants in there and they are also retaining plenty of green leaves. There were lots of dead leaves around the place though and those plants are maybe 2 weeks behind Granita, so I think even the weedy 12 watts of 6500k are having a positive effect.

I'm just off to do some gardening so I'll post up a pic tomorrow.

i try to harvest right after the lights come on. ive read that during light hours some of the thc is used up to protect the plant from UV light. at night the plant builds that thc back up for use during the day. so supposedly the plant has max amount of thc in the morning when the lights come on. this seems like it would apply to outdoor plants more than indoors, cause there is more UV light outside. regardless of indoor or out i always harvest at dawn or when the lights come on and ive always had good results.

v12xjs said:

Thanks for the input guys. Most appreciated.

I spoke to a seed breeder today who has tried the darkness thing and he said it didn't improve potency at all and just made the plants stretch and look bad. I respect his opinion and have decided against trying it now.
The good news is that I'll be smoking Granita 3 days earlier than I thought

Also looked in on a nice scrog setup with a couple of Ice Cream plants in there and they are also retaining plenty of green leaves. There were lots of dead leaves around the place though and those plants are maybe 2 weeks behind Granita, so I think even the weedy 12 watts of 6500k are having a positive effect.

I'm just off to do some gardening so I'll post up a pic tomorrow.

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Looking great I have never gone much on the 24hr darkness theory either, and I dont think that light degrades THC at all! I know plenty of experienced growers who dry the colas on racks with the HPS lamps runing and fans running etc.

Are you finding that some 6500k is helping keep the colour in your leaves? I also like to mix the spectrum slightly, I have 320 watts of 2700k plus 30 watts of 6500k, would you suggest increasing that ratio of 6500?

Anyway, like I said earlier, great grow and much respect

Hi FS. That sounds like solid advice and is pretty much the new plan.
No news on the spider setup yet but there's been a few steps forward. More on that soon.

Good to see you again phoenix58
Thanks for that. Our % of blue light is almost identical...Great minds think alike
It's early days for me but if I'm honest I wouldn't up it just yet. It's good to know the leaves contain all the food the plant will want, but any more than that is probably blocking light to lower parts and will also need more work in the manicuring stage. I'll stick with 10% for now and see what I can find out from other people's experiences.
Let me know if you come across any other info on the subject.

Got a couple of pics from last night for you all. Wish I could post up the smell too
Got a macro and a side on. The macro is a bit down from the top and you can still see fresh new buds popping out near the top there. She's making my mouth water now

dam those colas look sticky! its topping off real nice, how much longer u think? yea we need smellovision. hey check out the new pics of Querkle.

Cheers m8
They are REALLY sticky. I'm trying not to touch them now though. I got a new scope recently and I looked at some trichs after giving Granita a couple of friendly squeezes. There were loads of trichs with no heads!
I just talk to her now
I'll pop over and check out the pics right now.

Sorry, forgot to answer the q.
The breeder info on the seeds says it's an 8 week strain, so that's what I'm working to and Granita will be meeting my axe a week on Sunday. I love a proper smoke however, squidgy black, sputnik and zero zero are my idea of stoned so I won't be killing anyone until I'm on 40 - 50% amber.

Oh my god, she's lookin fit... not long now mate!!!

I read your post about you saying you were going to give her 48hr darkness,.. I have heard this before also,.. and I thought it would be a good idea.

Ive heard (as others have in this thread) that it can frost up the buds, and can help to tell the plant she's going to be harvested.

However, this may only be on certain strains, so I would definetly look up more growers of ur strain to see if they have done the same

Best Wishes, cant wait to see what the dry weight of this grow is... my next post will be from sunny spain

SeANi0

I'm very interested in the dry weight, too, considering I finally got my seeds in. I'm just waiting for them to pop their little heads out, now. Since you're mainly from seed, maybe you can give me some advice here.

I posted in the newb forum, but my question got lost in minutes there. I'm curious about your experience with humidity and germination. My case is about 20%, unfortunately, but I've got 3 27W cfl's @ 5500, so It's super-bright and 3 powerful AC fans to keep air fresh and cool. I just haven't seen peep out of my seeds yet, is all. Wondering if it's tougher in low humidity. I read in a new (to me) book that a decent method was to soak the seeds until taproot showed. I did that, but 36 hours later, no taproot. I decided that, since my water was cool, I'd try to just plant them about 1/2" down in my moist organic soil, cover with press-n-seal and cross my fingers. Should I just chill and wait it out? What's the longest I should wait? And.. will the lack of humidity hurt my seedlings?

Sorry if there's mild hijack here. Just looking for your advice since you've got a similar setup to mine here. Thanks, in advance..

-ER

Hi SeANi0
I'm with you mate. She's a stunner! I'd have no doubts about recommending the strain, especially for this kind of setup.
The guy that gave me the advice is the breeder for CH9 seeds so unless I find otherwise I'll take what he says as solid advice, and as soon as he said that the plants get leggy it sounded right to me anyway.
He gave me a couple of pointers, one he had tried and another that he felt could be worth trying: he said that just feeding P in the latter stages made the plants very strong, so no N and no K. Never heard that before and it is something I can do with my rig. The other thing he thought may be worth trying was switching to 14/10 in later flowering but he hasn't tried it and I can't do it anyway as my system revolves around 12/12 for the whole family.
Interesting stuff for sure.

I love Spain. Last time I was in Barcelona there was a festival to mark the death of Antoni Gaudi and almost all his buildings were open to the public. Have you seen La Sagrada Familia? Even better looking than Granita
Have fun buddy.

Greets ER

I don't germinate in the case. I use a wet tissue in a sealed plastic container and put it in a drawer where it's dark and reasonably warm. I check once every 24 hours and they have usually got a nice white tail by the 2nd checkup.
From there they go into a cut up pill container with a sealy bag over the top and about 1.5 inches of soil. I then put them in the case but keep them in the bottom corner away from most of the light and heat.
There should be a pic in here somewhere but if you can't find one then let me know and I'll post one up for you in about a week when the next girl is due in there.
For info, the pill jar is a 30 capsule glucosamine plastic thing. I cut off the bottom and use the top with lid. Once the seeling gets the cotelydons and is putting out it's first true leaves I remove the sealy bag. It gets very moist in there so humidity is probably quite important.
The reason I use the lid end of the container is that I can let the plant get rootbound and then just take off the lid and push the plant / soil down into the final container. When I do this I fluff out the roots and lay the plant along the top of my container. I only do this because I use rectangular containers and it ensures the plant uses it all.

Try the sealy bag trick. Water before you put it on if the soil isn't already quite moist. Don't go digging in there for an update! You could cause some damage. They will show up

Looking ahead mate, have you thought about revegging Granita for a second flowering run plus cuts? Shes a fine specimen and I'm sure you wouldnt be dissapointed on a second flowering run, plus you eliminate all that uncertainty around seeds? I find second run is better on yield and no drop in quality whatsoever. It wont need to interfere with your 12/12 cycle, just leave her under a single 10watt 6500 in a corner of a room somewhere on a 20/4 timer, let her have daylight when its light and she will come back in 2 weeks..... honeslty its well worth it, I do it all the time. These plants WANT to live and can go on producing for you and gifting you cuts. After about 4 weeks you can stick her back under 12/12 and watch her go again!

Just a suggestion, I know you are going to find it hard to kill her, you seem as attached as I get! I have an AK47/LR now end of week 2 of reveg and looking great, bursting out with fresh green leaf all over, I'd be happy to start a thread if you want anymore info.

Can;t wait to see the harvest pics

phoenix58 said:

Looking ahead mate, have you thought about revegging Granita for a second flowering run plus cuts? Shes a fine specimen and I'm sure you wouldnt be dissapointed on a second flowering run, plus you eliminate all that uncertainty around seeds? I find second run is better on yield and no drop in quality whatsoever. It wont need to interfere with your 12/12 cycle, just leave her under a single 10watt 6500 in a corner of a room somewhere on a 20/4 timer, let her have daylight when its light and she will come back in 2 weeks..... honeslty its well worth it, I do it all the time. These plants WANT to live and can go on producing for you and gifting you cuts. After about 4 weeks you can stick her back under 12/12 and watch her go again!

Just a suggestion, I know you are going to find it hard to kill her, you seem as attached as I get! I have an AK47/LR now end of week 2 of reveg and looking great, bursting out with fresh green leaf all over, I'd be happy to start a thread if you want anymore info.

Can;t wait to see the harvest pics

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I really think you should start that thread. I'd love to learn how to do that.

phoenix58 said:

I have an AK47/LR now end of week 2 of reveg and looking great, bursting out with fresh green leaf all over, I'd be happy to start a thread if you want anymore info.

Can;t wait to see the harvest pics

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AWWWW!!!! Granita Junior... Great advice.

However (I might have the wrong strain here), isnt AK47/LR an autoflowering plant? I was under the impression (from a good source) that you couldnt take cutting off autoflowering strains, one of the reaons being the short veg time.

Im not doubting that you have done it mate.... something I would like to try meself if its possible

Please get in touch,

SeANi0

v12xjs said:

I love Spain. Last time I was in Barcelona there was a festival to mark the death of Antoni Gaudi and almost all his buildings were open to the public. Have you seen La Sagrada Familia? Even better looking than Granita
Have fun buddy.

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YES, GORGEOUS BY NIGHT.

Unfortunately, I wont get to see it this time as I am goin to the bottom of Spain (C. Del Sol).

Glad you like Spain, its one of favourite destinations,... that and Amsterdam!!

SeANi0 said:

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YES, GORGEOUS BY NIGHT.

Unfortunately, I wont get to see it this time as I am goin to the bottom of Spain (C. Del Sol).

Glad you like Spain, its one of favourite destinations,... that and Amsterdam!!

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Im heading off to barcelona in june with my girlfriend cant wait!!
Dont plan on smoking out there but is it readily available for tourists? i havent been spain since i was kid so pretty excited!

v12
Granita is looking juicy! Those macro shots are beautiful and you should be proud i know i would ..are you going to keep this thread going as its a perpetual grow?

SketzoH said:

Im heading off to barcelona in june with my girlfriend cant wait!!
Dont plan on smoking out there but is it readily available for tourists? i havent been spain since i was kid so pretty excited!

v12
Granita is looking juicy! Those macro shots are beautiful and you should be proud i know i would ..are you going to keep this thread going as its a perpetual grow?

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Hey Matey

I never had any trouble getting supplies in Spain but I do tend to pack my own these days as you never know who you are dealing with.

Interesting thought about keeping the thread going. The indica without a name was a stop gap due to the males I got out of a feminised seed pack but Pandora is 1 of 10 and I do plan to experiment with those. Stuff like feeding it just P in flowering, covering up the roots and anything else that will provide good info. I'm still unsure what the upload limit is for pics and I can't find anything in the site faq. Can anyone clarify what the limits are?
For sure if anyone wants to see what comes next I'd be happy to keep it going.