Zipz55

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Been growing Midnight Mass since mid July. Both plants have been finicky in flower. Weather has been a bit warm the past week or so and it caused my tent temps to go up to 77F during the days. Any temps above 76F (or so) seem to cause aggressive reveg. Growing close to the light also causes reveg with this one. Not good traits for an indoor grow. Hoping I'll have better luck with a CBH clone and Black Haze BX from TopDawg.

Pheno 1 -- very tall with undesirable wild sativa bud structure. This one has barely flowered at all, despite being under 12/12 for ~7 weeks then 11/13 for 2 weeks. Just throws more leaves instead of calixes. Thinking about chopping these large colas and seeing if I can salvage anything from this.
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Pheno 2 -- shorter, more of an indica bud structure. Definitely a much better growing habit for indoors. This one was doing very well, but then revegged on me out of nowhere. Gonna see if I can get this one to revert to flowering.
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personally I’d toss that 1st plant

I don’t see any buds on it at all

also it looks like you’re overwatering them alot from the leaf curl
 

ausername5

New Member
personally I’d toss that 1st plant

I don’t see any buds on it at all

also it looks like you’re overwatering them alot from the leaf curl
Yeah, that first plant is gonna end up in my compost pile pretty soon. I wait until they're dry before watering (lower fans starting to droop, pot is light), but I can try to make them go a bit longer before watering.

Someone else mentioned that excessive drybacks can cause plants to re-veg during flowering. He suggested I wasn't watering enough. :shrug:
 

La Changua

Active Member
Noted. I appreciate the feedback.

I’m growing in super soil (FFHF and Natures Living Soil), with a few top dressings. Perhaps I added too much at the final feed a couple weeks ago.
the CBH clone and the Black haze Bx are more pure than Midnight mass and will give you even more problems, considering that midnight mass has blue dream that makes it more viable indoors.
Haze and sativas are difficult indoors, they need little food and good pruning and tying, or netting.
 

ausername5

New Member
the CBH clone and the Black haze Bx are more pure than Midnight mass and will give you even more problems, considering that midnight mass has blue dream that makes it more viable indoors.
Haze and sativas are difficult indoors, they need little food and good pruning and tying, or netting.
Fair enough, but I'm determined to make a go of it.

The CBH and Black Haze BX are going to be grown in a 3x3 no-till raised bed. As far as supplemental feeds, I was originally planning to do a single top dress at start of flower and a second top dress around week 4 of flower. Given how sensitive these plants appear to be (in some respects), I may cut the supplemental feedings to a single top dress or skip it altogether. Not sure what's best.

The no-till bed should have everything the plants need from seed to harvest, so supplemental feeds may not even be needed.
 

oodawg

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Been growing Midnight Mass since mid July. Both plants have been finicky in flower. Weather has been a bit warm the past week or so and it caused my tent temps to go up to 77F during the days. Any temps above 76F (or so) seem to cause aggressive reveg. Growing close to the light also causes reveg with this one. Not good traits for an indoor grow. Hoping I'll have better luck with a CBH clone and Black Haze BX from TopDawg.

Pheno 1 -- very tall with undesirable wild sativa bud structure. This one has barely flowered at all, despite being under 12/12 for ~7 weeks then 11/13 for 2 weeks. Just throws more leaves instead of calixes. Thinking about chopping these large colas and seeing if I can salvage anything from this.
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Pheno 2 -- shorter, more of an indica bud structure. Definitely a much better growing habit for indoors. This one was doing very well, but then revegged on me out of nowhere. Gonna see if I can get this one to revert to flowering.
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Are you absolutely sure your timer is functioning correctly? Have you gone in everyday at lights on and off to confirm. That is some wild weird reveg stuff going on
 

oodawg

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Audubon purple(Audubon gold haze x harlem dreams) not clue really what week she's on. She was started outdoors in july and wasn't flowering by the first week of September so I put her in the tent at 11/13. This is where she's at after 6 weeks or so at 11/13. I have a clone going next to her that just hit 10 days 11/13 and is just showing its first pistils now. She smells amazing like leather and incense.
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ausername5

New Member
Are you absolutely sure your timer is functioning correctly? Have you gone in everyday at lights on and off to confirm. That is some wild weird reveg stuff going on
It's definitely weird. I don't know how this can occur under fairly typical growing conditions. I actually took some clones from both of these plants about a month into flowering. Was able to reveg the clones, but it took a solid week of 24/0 to flip the switch (18/6 didn't work).

The light and controller are both by AC Infinity. I've checked the light schedule and light timer history in the app and everything reports normal. I changed the light schedule a few weeks ago from 7AM-7PM (12/12) to 7AM-6PM (11/13) and reduced light intensity from 100% to 80%, but I wouldn't expect these changes to induce reveg.

Otherwise lighting has been stable. No power outages. Never open the tent after "bedtime", no light sources in the lung room, no wild temp/humidity swings.
 

El hopo

Member
I wish I could describe the


I wish I could describe the smell better of the "Purple Haze". I'm not familiar with Frankincense or Sandalwood. Years of black market and now dispensaries, I have not smelled anything similar. I recently tried Nevills Haze from the dispensary and that was much more fruity and green. I do remember the brown hairs on the Purple Haze but I wasn't knowledgeable enough to take note of the hair lengths.

I really need to go a gene trader show and try some new things. Even if we never find the originals, we know the potential for haze.
I remember the purple haze we used to get from a dance studio on west 23 rd. It’s smelled like waking into a greenhouse. Soil it smelled like pure dry dirt which smells quite delisiiusnifntou ask me. After you choked down a couple hits since that’s all you needed as the brass metal bowl was still stuffed to the brim with the gooeist stickiest dankness you could ask for. The smoke we think and heavy real fruity sweet flowery bouquets. The most incredible lung expansion smoke you could imagine. You pack the tiniest speck in a bowl and get 5 good rips. It smoked through and tasted good til the end. I miss that purple haze. Small popcorn sided nugs that were coated in large crystals. It would leave the 20 sacks covered in sugary resin. I hope I describe it
 
Been going to shows and buying samples of different growers “piff” variations and I have not found what my soul has been longing for yet. One day…I will taste that sweet piff again.
 

Tchef2525

Well-Known Member
Been going to shows and buying samples of different growers “piff” variations and I have not found what my soul has been longing for yet. One day…I will taste that sweet piff again.
The reason why we'll never taste original piff the same no matter if it comes from loyalty7, snype , piffcoastfarms , the water in Florida and environmental factors we can't have elsewhere made piff , be piff . Past 2008 it was all grown differently everywhere. Maybe the brown haze in hydro in Vermont was fire in spring but in summer that piff would shine in everyone's bag. Different grows in different times put out terps that changed
 

Tchef2525

Well-Known Member
The reason why we'll never taste original piff the same no matter if it comes from loyalty7, snype , piffcoastfarms , the water in Florida and environmental factors we can't have elsewhere made piff , be piff . Past 2008 it was all grown differently everywhere. Maybe the brown haze in hydro in Vermont was fire in spring but in summer that piff would shine in everyone's bag. Different grows in different times put out terps that changed
It can be fire for sure but nostalgia can't always be returned especially cannabis
 

Piffcoastfarms

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The reason why we'll never taste original piff the same no matter if it comes from loyalty7, snype , piffcoastfarms , the water in Florida and environmental factors we can't have elsewhere made piff , be piff . Past 2008 it was all grown differently everywhere. Maybe the brown haze in hydro in Vermont was fire in spring but in summer that piff would shine in everyone's bag. Different grows in different times put out terps that changed
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Don’t listen to that interview the guys that told him that don’t even grow that’s just the rumor around Washington heights among the hustlers. Truth be told, I still get work from Miami to this day and sometimes it’s great sometimes it’s not. Good weed can be grown anywhere and bad weed can be grown anywhere. I bet if you asked a 60 year old cuban what his recipe was back then and replicated it you could get it to come out like that. From personal experience I know that one single plant can come out many many different ways. I’ve given cuts to people and saw the hay they grew but I’ve also given cuts to people and was blown away by the quality even better than my own. It’s out there, just gotta find YOUR holy grail.
 
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